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Oly-whites (the Olympic campaign)

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
my Freeview box might come in handy for the Olympics afterall!
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
DwerdnA wrote:
my Freeview box might come in handy for the Olympics afterall!
 
i bet your nerves have settled  
 
now we just have to lean on the NZ Olympic committee and the lads just need a point on sunday
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tigers wrote:
right I'm going to brave the tv stations web sites - if we can lift the Oly-whites profile it'll make it harder for NZOC to prevent us from taking our place in BEJING!!
 
I still don't get it.  Why would the NZOC decision makers deny us a place in the most popular Olympic comp???    I blame the Telferites...
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
nah sorry mate.. don't know where they are staying
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I have the teams address at home ... will let you know when I get it.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
they may not intend to prevent us taking our place Stevo , but i suppose i'd rather lean on them now rather than whinge about it  later if it all turns to custard tigers2008-03-07 17:27:26
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
the nerves are good now...its turned into a nice ride home on the train
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
DwerdnA wrote:
the nerves are good now...its turned into a nice ride home on the train
 
yeah i waited til 2-0 before i opened a beer - must remember to finish it
 
Well done Olywhites
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Can someone confirm that we won 2-0 ... we lost the updates in the last 5 mins
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:
tigers wrote:
right I'm going to brave the tv stations web sites - if we can lift the Oly-whites profile it'll make it harder for NZOC to prevent us from taking our place in BEJING!!
 
I still don't get it.  Why would the NZOC decision makers deny us a place in the most popular Olympic comp???    I blame the Telferites...


It's a matter of money. The NZOC has very little money compared to other olympic committees and it's hard to justify sending an athlete(s) that won't be competitive. Belive me, they hate to do it but they sometimes HAVE to.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

FFS.  Looks like the Fijian lines-of-communication have been cut...

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I is gettin' no love from the Oceania site
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's a matter of money. The NZOC has very little money compared to other olympic committees and it's hard to justify sending an athlete(s) that won't be competitive. Belive me, they hate to do it but they sometimes HAVE to.


Pretty sure OFC and FIFA cover a lot of the football costs anyway...

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:

FFS.  Looks like the Fijian lines-of-communication have been cut...

 
Maemae or totori probably  bit through the cable!
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
89'- New Zealand just playing out time until the final whistle now

 

TIME ADDED ON: 4 minutes

 

FULLTIME: NZL 2 SOL 0

 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It now says full time

2-0
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
It's a matter of money. The NZOC has very little money compared to other olympic committees and it's hard to justify sending an athlete(s) that won't be competitive. Belive me, they hate to do it but they sometimes HAVE to.


Pretty sure OFC and FIFA cover a lot of the football costs anyway...


I'll try getting in touch with one of the NZOC guys to see what he knows.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well done Whiteys.  Never had any doubts really... 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:
tigers wrote:
right I'm going to brave the tv stations web sites - if we can lift the Oly-whites profile it'll make it harder for NZOC to prevent us from taking our place in BEJING!!
 
I still don't get it.  Why would the NZOC decision makers deny us a place in the most popular Olympic comp???    I blame the Telferites...
 
because they only send teams/individuals who have a chance who have a chnce of winning a medal/or developing.
will sending this team to the olympics develop im not sure.
let the officals from nz soccer/olympic commitee decide i guess.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The whiteys showed their mighty power over the Solos by making them eat the dirt on the pitch.
Reading those kinds of comments make following the games that much more enjoyable.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So am I right in thinking we won 2-0, Solomons finished with 8 on the field (!?) and we finished with 11 on the field?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Old to move to the Phoenix front line and Siggy signed in defence?


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
jamesnz wrote:
So am I right in thinking we won 2-0, Solomons finished with 8 on the field (!?) and we finished with 11 on the field?
 
they finished with 9 (text commentator got it wrong then recanted), we had 11 at the end
 
and yes 2-0 to the O-whites
 
Beijing for us, if there is any justice!!
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good news for the Oly-Whites. 

We shouldn't have trouble against the Cooks, and if we do then we don't deserve to go to Beijing 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Don't count our chickens yet.
 
From the NZPA "they would then require selection ratification from the New Zealand Olympic Committee to represent the Oceania region at the Games in Beijing in August".
 
It would not surprise me in the least to get knocked back by the NZOC.
 
 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rob Wardell to play for Olywhites

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think we're getting a little bit paranoid aren't we???  A 15 team comp is hardly desirable.  The Oly-whites can smell the rice paddies already!!!!! 

Any concerns:  office@olympic.org.nz
 
Stevo2008-03-07 23:44:58
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:
A 15 team comp is hardly desirable.   
 
I wouldn't put it past them if FIFA has anything to do with it.

Three for me, and two for them.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:

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Olympic Football Regulations

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Article 12 Withdrawal

6. Any association whose team withdraws up to 30 days before the startof the final competitions shall be fined CHF 15,000.

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Sounds bad.


The Olympic don't start until 8th August and so allowing a week early for some events that may start before the 8th. Any withdraws would be done by 1st July. Plenty of time for them to figure it out.

The Olympic selections would be hard pushed to reject the Olywhites team, once they finish the Cook Islanders. Straight wins are what counts and how smart they conducted their tournament strategy not just number of goals scored.

FIFA does handle the Olympic football so, the OFC will have some funding for the Oceania Reps.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:
tigers wrote:
right I'm going to brave the tv stations web sites - if we can lift the Oly-whites profile it'll make it harder for NZOC to prevent us from taking our place in BEJING!!
 
I still don't get it.  Why would the NZOC decision makers deny us a place in the most popular Olympic comp???    I blame the Telferites...


It's a matter of money. The NZOC has very little money compared to other olympic committees and it's hard to justify sending an athlete(s) that won't be competitive. Belive me, they hate to do it but they sometimes HAVE to.
 
It�s not a financial decision, it�s one of credibility.  But in team sports, by qualifying you have shown that you are better than however many other teams in the world.  Individula sports are different, you can meet the qualifying standard but that might be so low as to be almost meaningless (as we�ve witnessed with several african swimmers etc).  They must be allowed to go, it would be as big a disgrace as the Fijian Visa fiasco if the didn�t.  I fully support tigers idea about beginning the pressurising now, letters to the ed, get the journos onside and they won�t have a choice.  Public opinion can easily sway them, make it an issues and the ollywhites a cause!

Normo's coming home

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Gotta agree with Mr Dean. A little positive publicity from the footballing public won't do the olywhites any harm.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
Stevo wrote:
tigers wrote:
right I'm going to brave the tv stations web sites - if we can lift the Oly-whites profile it'll make it harder for NZOC to prevent us from taking our place in BEJING!!
 
I still don't get it.  Why would the NZOC decision makers deny us a place in the most popular Olympic comp???    I blame the Telferites...


It's a matter of money. The NZOC has very little money compared to other olympic committees and it's hard to justify sending an athlete(s) that won't be competitive. Belive me, they hate to do it but they sometimes HAVE to.
 
It�s not a financial decision, it�s one of credibility.  But in team sports, by qualifying you have shown that you are better than however many other teams in the world.  Individula sports are different, you can meet the qualifying standard but that might be so low as to be almost meaningless (as we�ve witnessed with several african swimmers etc).  They must be allowed to go, it would be as big a disgrace as the Fijian Visa fiasco if the didn�t.  I fully support tigers idea about beginning the pressurising now, letters to the ed, get the journos onside and they won�t have a choice.  Public opinion can easily sway them, make it an issues and the ollywhites a cause!


Have you ever spoken to a member of the Olympic committee on the subject? If the money was avaliable they would send everyone that qualifies. The object of the Olympics is participation, rather than the popular misconception that it is about winning. If it was about winning the IOC wouldn't actualy be encouraging (and helping finance I think) African swimmers and the like.

Competetiveness is simply the most acceptable answer to the problem, think how angry the public would be if uncompetitive athletes were sent instead?

I would love to see the Oly-Whites at the Olympics and yes we do need to apply pressure to make sure they go.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Do the olympics still allow 3 over age players?  If so when we throw Nelsen, Killen and Elliot into our team we look ok to compete.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
As I understand a copy of the Dan keat/Spenser Noal video obtained from Fiji TV was sent to FIFA as an mpg and the FIFA Disciplinary Committee made its decision accordingly.

My personal view - if I can share it - is that if you measure a red card by, say, the Beckham incident at the FIFA World Cup - France 98, then any type of "clash" is going to draw attention from a referee.

That's more likely to escape unpunished in, say, Northern League. The NZFC is similar. If there is a competition on earth where you will likely get away with it, its the A-League.

But like British teams in Europe, they must adapt. Simply playing a certain way in another competition is no justification for taking that same approach in a different competition, different environment.

It is simply not worth retalitating.

Spenser Noal was suspended for two matches and fined 2000 CHF for serious foul play.


Gordon Glen Watson
OFC Media and Communications Officer
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
2 articles on front page - 1 on the match, 1 on the  Olympic dream
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
nzowl wrote:
Do the olympics still allow 3 over age players?  If so when we throw Nelsen, Killen and Elliot into our team we look ok to compete.
What a insult to the Olly-whites, As if u would put Elliot and Killen in the team? Even old man Nelsen wouldnt handle the fast pace of Olympic football.
 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
convict wrote:
nzowl wrote:
Do the olympics still allow 3 over age players?  If so when we throw Nelsen, Killen and Elliot into our team we look ok to compete.
What a insult to the Olly-whites, As if u would put Elliot and Killen in the team? Even old man Nelsen wouldnt handle the fast pace of Olympic football.
 


yet he does for the english game? rated by some as the best in the world?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
muso wrote:
convict wrote:
nzowl wrote:
Do the olympics still allow 3 over age players?  If so when we throw Nelsen, Killen and Elliot into our team we look ok to compete.
What a insult to the Olly-whites, As if u would put Elliot and Killen in the team? Even old man Nelsen wouldnt handle the fast pace of Olympic football.
 


yet he does for the english game? rated by some as the best in the world?


I think he's being sarcastic muso. Or stirring sh*t.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'd put Nelsen in the team, but I wouldn't put in Elliot and I don't know about Killen either.  If Killen was on form then yes, otherwise I'd give Smeltz his place, and I'd give Sigmund or Brown Elliot's place.
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