The next All Whites coach

I trust JV's and his source, he may be an old curmudgeon but he is no troll. If he has the word that its not Emblen then I will go with that.

As for Raul Blanco. Great CV....really experianced guy who is highly regarded for his technical knowledge of football. Probably one of the unsung hereos of the AW's South africa campaign. Would make a great coach EXCEPT for his age. 71 now would make him 76 for WC Russia 2018. Way too old. If NZ goes into the Asia playoff it would involve a lot of really long haul travel. Not the place for a guy in his  70's. Guus Hiddink is moving out of international football and he is 67, Marcello Lippi is talking of retiring soon and he is 65. Sorry but Blanco is too old.

Who we get as coach depends on the WC playoff setup. If it stays the way it is now with us getting a two headed playoff against a side from either CONCACAFF or AFC or CONCOBOL?? Then we could probably get away with a local coach to get us through the next few years and then get some good international technical backup to help when it came to the playoffs. However if we are in the final playoff round in Asia then its all completely different. We would have at least 8 full on high pressure games, possibly 10 if the pools are enlarged. We will need a high level coach with experiance, preferably in Asia.

Thats when names like Graham Arnold come in. If he does his two years coaching in Japan then the timing would be perfect to get him in for the two+ year run up to the WC.....his contract finishes May 20 2015????? at the end of the Jap season. Other possibilities would be Vidmar...who has taken a club team to the AFC Champions league final and was/is OZ assistant coach. Might not pass the "no dicks" test though. We are going to need a coach who knows what its like managing a team in high pressure games in places like Seoul and Tehran. If we are going to playoff in Asia then its no point NZF nickle and diming on a coach. 

Other names like Elliot and Nelson have only just finished playing. They need to go and spend 4+ years coaching and prove themselves first.

Blanco was coaching the MacArthur Rams from 08 until 2010, He still has a role there but i don't know what. Before then it was Marconi in 02/03.

Even though his name was brought up when i did some sniffing around. What makes Raul Blanco any better then say Wynton Rufer (please no laughing) who has more coaching experience then Simon Elliot?. Okon is doing well but is still learning his trade. Would the public go for that? Would it be Blasphemy!!! 

And do we get a coach now or after the draw? Like Australia did in 2005 to conquer Uruguay with Guus Hiddink?

Blanco would be a massive step back.

Just watching Brisbane - Mike Mulvey?

For some context here's a list of the last ten All Whites coaches (which conveniently takes us back to Adshead '82) and the other highlights from their coaching CVs. This is the market we're in people...

Mick Waitt 2002-2004 - Napier City Rovers, Capital Football DoF, Wellington Olympic

Ken Dugdale 1998-2002 - Football Kingz, Vollen UL (Norway)

Joe McGrath 1997-1998 - Rep of Ireland U17, Bohemians, Kilkenny City

Keith Pritchett 1996-1997 - Waitakere City, United Soccer 1 DoF

Bobby Clark 1994-1995 - Dartmouth College, Stanford University, Notre Dame

Ian Marshall 1990-1993 - Rangers (Chch), Christchurch United

John Adshead 1989 - Western Australia State Leagues, Manurewa, NZ Knights

Kevin Fallon 1985-1988 - Gisborne City, Waikato Utd, Mt Albert Grammar School

Allan Jones 1983-1984 - Bristol City, Blyth Spartans, Darlington, Bermuda

John Adshead 1979-1982 - see above

So basically, if we get in a coach with experience at a higher level than English League 1, US College Football or the A-League they will be the most qualified coach we have ever had.

Don't hold your breath for Hiddink.

It was said on fox sports Argentina that former gold olympics football winner in 2008and Argentina manager, and world cup winner in Mexico 86, Sergio Batista, has been linking to the nz national team,  any news over there ?  He also coached in China a year ago, so he knows the region

As I suggested with Poppa, you go to Brisbane and you do a deal whereby the 100k is a top up to his A League salary. How much time is the AWs gonna take up? He is on a good wedge and Brisbane get to keep their coach who just got bumped up by 100k. Everyone is happy

(Pretty much the same deal NZF had with Ricki and the Phoenix)

If NZF hire a local coach who has only coached Amatuer /Semi Pro league teams in a very poor League other then World Club championships, Then NZF would have to answer some serious questions like WTF? and "Scraping the bottom of the barrel" syndrome.

Ricki Herbert's coaching experience before taking the AW's: only three seasons' experience as a national league coach (& never won it)!!!

1990 - 93: Papakura City (Northern League)

1993 - 1996: Papatoetoe (Northern League)

1996 - 1999: Central United (National League '96-'98; 1999: North Island League + national play-off winner v. South Island League winner)

1999 - 2004: NZ u-23 national coach

2003: NZ u-17 national coach

2001 - 2004: assistant coach NZ national team.

Looking at the above, Emblen would have to be top of NZF's present list.

However Herbert was coaching a professional football club in a better league (Knights+Phoenix). That is not the case with Neil and contingent.

Sergio Batista is not your man living in Perth - this former Argentinian international managed Argentina as recently as July 2011 when he was sacked after a poor Copa America - that tournament was actually on Sky TV in NZ - I remember it well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Batista

Manager of Shanghai Shenua in Chinese Super League May 2012 - July 2013 (their ninth manager in six seasons !!!):

http://wildeastfootball.net/2013/07/nine-coaches-in-six-seasons-sergio-batista-quits-shanghai-shenhua/

Seems unlikely to me he would accept such a reduction in status and wages as to coach NZ !!!

But then again NZF may seem supremely competent and a good employer after his bad experience in China:

"Former Argentina international coach Sergio Batista has decided enough is enough and has resigned as Shanghai Shenhua manager after going unpaid for four months, according to local reports.

Batista is just one of several staff and players at Shenhua whose wages are in arrears, due to the long-running shareholder conflict between owner Zhu Jun and the remaining shareholders, a bloc of state-owned enterprises.

And, as predicted my many fans and media, Batista will be succeeded by former Henan Jianye and Beijing Guoan manager Shen Xiangfu, who, in a rather peculiar appointment, joined Shenhua at the start of this season as “Chinese player head coach."

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You are thinking of Gabriel Batistuta, the great Argentinian striker who lived briefly in Perth but went back to Argentina way back in 2007:

"Batistuta retired in 2005 and moved to Perth, Australia, but moved back to Argentina in 2007. Despite having completed his coaching badges in Argentina, he currently has no involvement with football (instead he prefers to play polo and golf). He expressed an interest in coaching Australia's national team and Argentina's team.[18] During the 2006 FIFA World Cup he worked as a commentator for Televisa Deportes. Batistuta currently runs his own construction company in Argentina. He also worked as technical secretary in the professional football club Colón, joining the club's staff in January 2012, and leaving at the end of the 2012–2013 season."

Leggy I'm not saying he is a great player by any stretch but you have to give him respect for the fact he played at that level. When you think of our best Kiwi footballers, only two have done on with regular appearances because it's not an easy level to live in unless you have talent. I'll grant you that Nelsen and Reid were/are 2 good EPL players but to live at that level, average is a bad adjective especially when you look at all the competition you have to get ahead of to get there

After reading the article on Ramon Tribulietx I think the financial aspects of appointing him to the AW job would work if he was allowed to keep coaching Auckland City as well. It is less intense than coaching the Nix at the same time (which Ricki found a bit hard), but keeps him busy and involved. In contrast, a job involving only coaching the AWs would make it awfully hard to get value for money coach from overseas.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=11168908

That article also mentions he's already been employed by Canadian Soccer in the past as a technical adviser. Interesting!

"The step up from the ASB Premiership to an international job would be huge but maybe not insurmountable. At the least, Tribulietx should be engaged in a role within NZF. He has already been used by the Canadian Soccer Association on various campaigns, but strangely ignored by NZF."

After the AC performances against Casablanca and Espanyol in the last few days you would have to think Ramon has improved his chances of getting the AWs job. It shows he can step up to the big time. AC looked well drilled and disciplined at the WCC. His side  tried to play football but more importantly were very well organised in defense...something that NZ sides have to be against the big guys. Would love to see Ramon work with  talented youngster like Rojas, Thomas, Costa Tuiloma etc....

Ryan Thomas just played another 90 minutes for PEC Zwolle in the Dutch Eredivisie, and Herbert chose to play someone who hadn't kicked a ball in earnest for two years in midfield instead for the game at the Azteca. Ramon would definitely be a significant improvement, but then any half decent coach would be. I'm just so glad Herbert's finally gone. I think the problem is Ramon is too closely associated with ACFC for some on this forum.