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All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
The next All Whites coach
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I see Ricki is saying the second leg game may not be his last hurrah after all as AWs coach. Talk about depressing news.
Will Frank have the balls to fire him if he won't go of his own accord?
Ive just realised ...its NOT about football / the A Ws / the W C ....its all about RICKI !!~!
Unreal the guy is impervious to life ....
If we win and qualify, RH can have the job for as long as he wants it......
Now that really is tempting fate! Man oh man.....
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
Grumpy old bastard alert
If we win and qualify, RH can have the job for as long as he wants it......
If we qualify, I reckon he will resign after the media give credit to Tim Brown and Mark Paston addressing the players the day before the game as well as Nelsen and Elliott for being the real coaches behind the team.
If we win and qualify, RH can have the job for as long as he wants it......
If we qualify, I reckon he will resign after the media give credit to Tim Brown and Mark Paston addressing the players the day before the game as well as Nelsen and Elliott for being the real coaches behind the team.
He ....nice !!
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
To be fair JV the team that's running out for the second leg is not Ricki's natural team. It has been forced on him. I'd be happy to eat my words because of the result but not happy to see him continue, regardless. However like you I feel we're fairly safe.
If we do thrash Mexico and qualify then I don't doubt Ricki will demand the right to take the team to the WC.
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
To be fair JV the team that's running out for the second leg is not Ricki's natural team. It has been forced on him. I'd be happy to eat my words because of the result but not happy to see him continue, regardless. However like you I feel we're fairly safe.
If we do thrash Mexico and qualify then I don't doubt Ricki will demand the right to take the team to the WC.
E + R + O
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
To be fair JV the team that's running out for the second leg is not Ricki's natural team. It has been forced on him. I'd be happy to eat my words because of the result but not happy to see him continue, regardless. However like you I feel we're fairly safe.
If we do thrash Mexico and qualify then I don't doubt Ricki will demand the right to take the team to the WC.
If we do thrash Mexico and go to the WC then quite frankly one could not possibly think he does not deserve it.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
To be fair JV the team that's running out for the second leg is not Ricki's natural team. It has been forced on him. I'd be happy to eat my words because of the result but not happy to see him continue, regardless. However like you I feel we're fairly safe.
If we do thrash Mexico and qualify then I don't doubt Ricki will demand the right to take the team to the WC.
Grumpy old bastard alert
But we won't be going to the world cup. Best we can hope for is a narrow win - I would still be very happy to see us win even if we don't qualify.
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
To be fair JV the team that's running out for the second leg is not Ricki's natural team. It has been forced on him. I'd be happy to eat my words because of the result but not happy to see him continue, regardless. However like you I feel we're fairly safe.
If we do thrash Mexico and qualify then I don't doubt Ricki will demand the right to take the team to the WC.
If we do thrash Mexico and go to the WC then quite frankly one could not possibly think he does not deserve it.
Idiot selections first game = hammering ....less moronic selections + [ mexican betting mafia ] + God defending us = miraculous win = RH to WC ....I think not !!
Herbert just announced he will step down on tv 3 news
Auckland will rise once more
Goneburger as coach but he will rise like a Phoenix and inherit Fred's role shortly. Deals have been done
Auckland will rise once more
He may be gone but the bleating and whining remains.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Should we just tell Merrick that it's in the small print of his Phoenix deal that he has to take the AWs as well and he gets paid 50K extra to do it? How difficult can it be? After all it will really be Winston Reid and Tommy Smith doing all the coaching right?
i wish they had kept this until after the game, i was getting all excited about the new players playing aka the game itself. and now its going to be this big love in about ricki. fucker
should have waited...
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological.
People call for Ricki to step down.
Ricki ask who else is better.
People go ape shit.
People call for Ricki to step down. Again.
Ricki steps down.
People call for Ricki to not step down until after the game.
God's little bloke with the Mexican name wept.
The rest of us place our faces firmly into the nearest palm (not faeces, or psalms - that would be kinda gross and waste of paper).
E + R + O
People call for Ricki to step down.
Ricki ask who else is better.
People go ape shit.
People call for Ricki to step down. Again.
Ricki steps down.
People call for Ricki to not step down until after the game.
God's little bloke with the Mexican name wept.
The rest of us place our faces firmly into the nearest palm (not faeces, or psalms - that would be kinda gross and waste of paper).
great post!
People call for Ricki to step down.
Ricki ask who else is better.
People go ape shit.
People call for Ricki to step down. Again.
Ricki steps down.
People call for Ricki to not step down until after the game.
God's little bloke with the Mexican name wept.
The rest of us place our faces firmly into the nearest palm (not faeces, or psalms - that would be kinda gross and waste of paper).
great post!
This position of some people on this forum changes more frequently that Bevan Chaung and thats a hard feat to top.
Grumpy old bastard alert
….The All Whites could of play on the following dates during the Herbert era:
17/08/2005
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11/10/2013
That is all I have to say about Ricki.
I think this has more to do with NZF, which is why I agree that van Hattum should bugger off.
If we had played on even some of those dates Ivan would have clocked up the big 100. I'm a little gutted for him in that he's had such a long international career but will not crack 90 (even taking the 6/12 months away in 08/09).
While I can understand us not being able to afford to play against the big boys, games like the NZ A vs Jordan should have been a full international, same as against Thailand.
We have the depth in players in NZ/Aussie to have played on some of those games against the likes of New Caledonia/Fiji/Tahiti/Indonesia/Singapore/Malaysia/Vietnam etc home or away. They would have been good games too that would have kept the AWs in the public concious more, given fringe players that we talk about here the chance to prove themselves and would have prevented the "Christie Calamity" too.
This is the sort of thing Mexico does by the way.
Really can't blame Van Hattum either though as it was like this in the 90s as well.
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I know i will cop some shit for bringing his name up but I truly think David O'Leary would be a great import coach for the "All Whites".
He's great with young guys and his style of attacking football with descent defence suits what players we have ATM and coming up.
+1 but I maybe a bit blinkered. He's been invovled a lot in youth since leaving the UK.
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For some context here's a list of the last ten All Whites coaches (which conveniently takes us back to Adshead '82) and the other highlights from their coaching CVs. This is the market we're in people...
Mick Waitt 2002-2004 - Napier City Rovers, Capital Football DoF, Wellington Olympic
Ken Dugdale 1998-2002 - Football Kingz, Vollen UL (Norway)
Joe McGrath 1997-1998 - Rep of Ireland U17, Bohemians, Kilkenny City
Keith Pritchett 1996-1997 - Waitakere City, United Soccer 1 DoF
Bobby Clark 1994-1995 - Dartmouth College, Stanford University, Notre Dame
Ian Marshall 1990-1993 - Rangers (Chch), Christchurch United
John Adshead 1989 - Western Australia State Leagues, Manurewa, NZ Knights
Kevin Fallon 1985-1988 - Gisborne City, Waikato Utd, Mt Albert Grammar School, Kingz
Allan Jones 1983-1984 - Bristol City, Blyth Spartans, Darlington, Bermuda
John Adshead 1979-1982 - see above
So basically, if we get in a coach with experience at a higher level than English League 1, US College Football or the A-League they will be the most qualified coach we have ever had.
Don't hold your breath for Hiddink.
I always thought Allan was a great manager, both during his time with the AWs and afterwards. What would people say about Gavin Wilkinson. Pity a decent NZ coach made a complete knob of himself by sending said knob to someone else!
The is a lot of parochialism in NZ football and jobs for mates (NZF anyone?), so it might be in our best interests to get an Aussie, Spaniard, Argie etc who is not part of the "click".
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I posted once before that I think probably the most value for money investment that Sport NZ could make into NZF is topping up the All Whites coach salary by $100-200k a year. That would push the job up into another league of candidate (although still not great). They won't do it though because the All Whites are not ranked high enough to be perceived as worth investing in (unlike the Football Ferns).
Just putting this out there because I'm generally interested. Is there any chance of pushing some of these jobs together to make it worthwhile enough to get someone decent? i.e. get a national coach for both mens & women? Or make them coach one of the youth sides as well?
Realising there are problems with both options, but getting a full-time coach for just the AWs seems a bit over the top given how many games we play, and combining with an a-league gig clearly wasn't working for Ricki last season.
We might have to do that. You are putting all your eggs in one basket though and that was one of the big criticisms of Ricki - that he had too much influence over NZ football in general (All Whites, Phoenix, Olympics etc)
Club footie and international should be kept separate but as the AW coach has sod all to do most of the time, I do not see any reason why the new candidate cannot look after the AWs, U23s (Olympics) and maybe U20s. We would at least know the numero uno is involved in player and tactics development and he would be better able to judge what talent we have coming through (one of RHs major weaknesses). Easier to justify $300k + salary.
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and the reason that the americas cup gets millions in cash for a minority rich mans sport as opposed to the all whites representing new zealand across the world in the true global sport would be.........
America's Cup whats that? Something the AWs could learn from in how to execute a comeback "from 'Nam"
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Ian Holloway would be brilliant though! He's out of
He won't coach at a decent level again after his current stint, burns too many bridges and does not take critcism or pressure well and likes to get his own way. Basically RH x 10 with a Bristolian accent.
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Austin - sorry I can't quote on the iPhone app but agree that the younger players will GET Ramon's style of play because that is exactly the game they are playing with their clubs.
Given financial limitations he would be a good choice for that reason AND be able to scout young domestic up and comers as well.
I'm yet to read a good argument against him.
The barcelona guy is there for the taking, affordable, and able to work with low budget, i can see him bringing Vicellich as assistant manager as well
Brian Kerr- No thanks he'd be as defensive as Ricki. Didn't do a good job really with the Irish. David O'Leary is a good shout but is probably too comfy doing tv work.
Ian Holloway would be brilliant though! He's out of
He won't coach at a decent level again after his current stint, burns too many bridges and does not take critcism or pressure well and likes to get his own way. Basically RH x 10 with a Bristolian accent.
Brian Kerr is a maverick full of wisdom, a great coach, got very very unlucky with Eire, but is a hero wth the underages teams
Ryan Nelsen could be the next manager but his record at Toronto is not good, he maybe a future manager.
Ryan Nelsen could be the next manager but his record at Toronto is not good, he maybe a future manager.
I always thought Allan was a great manager, both during his time with the AWs and afterwards. What would people say about Gavin Wilkinson. Pity a decent NZ coach made a complete knob of himself by sending said knob to someone else!
Grumpy old bastard alert
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
To be fair JV the team that's running out for the second leg is not Ricki's natural team. It has been forced on him. I'd be happy to eat my words because of the result but not happy to see him continue, regardless. However like you I feel we're fairly safe.
If we do thrash Mexico and qualify then I don't doubt Ricki will demand the right to take the team to the WC.
I find it strange that people think Ricki is incapable of selecting a team with a back four (it's in the paper so it must be true). I would say he is probably more comfortable with a 442/4231 than the 343 he has been using mostly for the AWs in the past 4 years, otherwise I'm sure that he would have looked to have used the system more often prior to '09 for the AWs and more than the handful of games for the 'Nix.
He knew the limitations and strengths of the players available at international level and setup a system that allowed us to compete against superior opposition.
To be fair, if they did get the 4-0, there would be more than a few that would have to eat some shit on the call to ditch Ricki (myself included). I think its fairly safe.
To be fair JV the team that's running out for the second leg is not Ricki's natural team. It has been forced on him. I'd be happy to eat my words because of the result but not happy to see him continue, regardless. However like you I feel we're fairly safe.
If we do thrash Mexico and qualify then I don't doubt Ricki will demand the right to take the team to the WC.
I find it strange that people think Ricki is incapable of selecting a team with a back four (it's in the paper so it must be true). I would say he is probably more comfortable with a 442/4231 than the 343 he has been using mostly for the AWs in the past 4 years, otherwise I'm sure that he would have looked to have used the system more often prior to '09 for the AWs and more than the handful of games for the 'Nix.
He knew the limitations and strengths of the players available at international level and setup a system that allowed us to compete against superior opposition.
Didn't he play 343 in the ONC?
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Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
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And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
No it was a 4-4-2 on Honiara. They sent over Tim Myers who played RB.
Grumpy old bastard alert
I always thought Allan was a great manager, both during his time with the AWs and afterwards. What would people say about Gavin Wilkinson?
Pity a decent NZ coach made a complete knob of himself by sending said knob to someone else! (Cain)
Sorry Jeff worded wrong. I meant maybe Gav, Steve would have been a good option if he kept little Steve where he belonged.
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