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The next All Whites coach

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05 Feb 09:02
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Tony Readings



Buffy said that 3 months ago. It won't happen as i see Emblem the obvious choice.
um... Someone asked who the women's coach was. That was my answer.

Grumpy old bastard alert

05 Feb 09:27
Royz wrote:


David O'Leary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




As a Leeds fan I love him but he has a gig now.
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07 Feb 03:40 · edited 07 Feb 03:43 · History
2ndBest wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:

Scoop from the Waitakere v Auckland commentary on Sommet Sports last night (courtesy of OFC TV man Gordon Glen Watson):

Ramon Tribulietx is "the interim All Whites coach" for the game v Japan.

Sorry Big Pete. You heard wrong. He was talking about Neil Emblem who was at the game being a strong candidate for the interin role.

Sorry, You are dead right - says that at 59 mins into the You Tube clip of the full game. I left the room and my mate who came around to watch the preceding Liverpool game and stayed on for this game told me when I got back "They just said about the new All Whites coach  - it's going to be the Auckland City guy." Obviously had his wires crossed. Also a few beers had been consumed....

Full game here - nothing conclusive, just speculation at 59 mins into the clip (soon after second half kicked-off) that Emblen ,seen on the touchline, might be a candidate....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7O-jwwqxc

Be funny if it turned out to be Tribulietx in the end though - I'd have to credit Greg with mystic powers!

Emblen would be more available to take the AW's short-term in March since Tribulietx would be involved with Auckland City in the ASB Premiership semis. Seems to me Emblen is the favourite (though Tribulietx is keener on the long-term job with Neil focusing on the u-23's) 

Anyway, both Tribulietx and Emblen use Twitter if anything eventuates:

https://twitter.com/neilemblen

https://twitter.com/RamonTribulietx


There's an interview with Emblen in Britain's Daily Telegraph 30 December on his ambitions with NZ u-23's and football in NZ:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10541492/Former-Wolverhampton-Wanderer-Neil-Emblen-aims-to-take-New-Zealands-footballers-to-Rio-2016.html?fb

FORMER WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERER NEIL EMBLEN AIMS TO TAKE NEW ZEALAND'S FOOTBALLERS TO RIO 2016


British coach wants more after getting a taste of international management with a young All Whites squad at London 2012

Playing days: Neil Emblen (right) plays against Crystal Palace for Wolverhampton Wanderers in 1999, during his second spell at the Midlands club Photo: ACTION IMAGES





Big Pete 65, Christchurch

07 Feb 04:20
Marto wrote:
Royz wrote:


David O'Leary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




As a Leeds fan I love him but he has a gig now.


What's he doing now?
.

07 Feb 14:18
ForteanTimes wrote:
Marto wrote:
Royz wrote:


David O'Leary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




As a Leeds fan I love him but he has a gig now.


What's he doing now?
.
Nothing as far as I know since he was sacked by UAE side Al-Ahli in April 2011. He'll never have to work again after being awarded $ US 5.2m compensation.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

07 Feb 20:46

ACFC 2 Al-Ahli 0 (World Club Cup 2009)

Al-Ahli also went out after their first game the following year after which they brought in O'Leary. But under O'Leary they never even qualified from the UAE domestic league.


 

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

08 Feb 07:56

Didn't they only qualify as those two tournaments were held in the UAE?

08 Feb 22:00


Correct.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

09 Feb 06:27

Maybe someone should ask Danny Hay if he thinks O'Leary would take the job.

Mr Positive

09 Feb 07:05

He's been working for Sky UK and has said on TV that he is involved with Ireland in some capacity.

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05 Mar 19:34

Surely it's gotta be Emblen????

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

05 Mar 19:50

Surely it's gotta be Emblen????

I think not.
New Zealand should be signing a coach with way more experience than Emblem has. It's our national team and if we want to progress we need a coach with proven international experience. Someone who can Emblem can learn from.

A dog with a bone :)

05 Mar 19:53

If it was Emblem surely he would have been appointed by now?

05 Mar 19:55
nightz wrote:

Surely it's gotta be Emblen????

I think not.

New Zealand should be signing a coach with way more experience than Emblem has. It's our national team and if we want to progress we need a coach with proven international experience. Someone who can Emblem can learn from.

Yeah that's all well and good in theory but realistically we don't have the money to sign such a coach. We don't play enough meaningful games to justify throwing money at a coach who only brings the squad together twice a year. Experienced international coaches don't come cheap.

Emblen plays a style that suits our young guys and he's got knowledge of the game in NZ. He won't expect a million dollars a year either.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

05 Mar 19:57
threatD wrote:

If it was Emblem surely he would have been appointed by now?

Not necessarily - NZF might be waiting for the new CEO to find his feet before hiring a permanent replacement for Ricki, or just still seeing who is out there and might be interested.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

05 Mar 20:24

Or perhaps waiting for this review to finish that been mentioned a few times already?

Grumpy old bastard alert

05 Mar 22:38

Does anyone know about the statement made preJap match on TV3  that Emblem currently does not have the tickets to be AW coach?

05 Mar 22:47

I was impressed with Emblen when he took the Olympic side to the UK. They played some great football.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

05 Mar 23:22

He has no qualifications. I have heard a couple of stories around this and the reasons why but nothing I am prepared to print.

Grumpy old bastard alert

05 Mar 23:26

It's Emble....N!!!!

Auckland City FC

07 Mar 07:40

so he wouldn't meet selection criteria then?

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

12 Mar 07:56 · edited 12 Mar 07:57 · History

if we're not going to spend big bucks, embleN would be ok by me

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12 Mar 21:12

I guess if you look at all variables of

- Not much of a budget to pay

- Not many games a year so hard to justify full time unless another role wrapped around it

- ideally to know the player environment both locally and internationally

- understanding of how NZF 'do their thing' and the culture of organisation there

- the want and desire for a fulltime, credentialed coach on a low budget

 

 

The answers really are Emblen and Ramon. Most likely as a duo but I would think that if either of them got the job, they would ask the other on board. Emblen may take Bazely with him knowing their history.

 

I know the standard answer is always 'you know never what is out there until you look' (much the same convo as Ricki with the Phoenix) I really think that for all those variables, those two tick more boxes than potentially others may do. I know Emblen has no tickets and not sure about Ramon and how that fits in with NZFs criteria...

Grumpy old bastard alert

13 Mar 00:59


I would support a Emblen - Roman duo. I mean the current players seem to speak highly of Emblen and younger players also mention him regularly as being a great mentor (Burfoot interview on ASB Prem. website.) Roman on the other hand does play a very attractive and winning style of football which New Zealand can certainly benefit from. He also knows how to win in the Pacific as he has shown with Auckland City in the O-league. We may not be in Oceania for much longer but we are for this upcoming WC qualifying campaign so it would be ideal to have him on board. He also has the reputation of being extremely studious by putting the hours in to study the opposition which has certainly helped Auckland City in their Club's World Cup campaigns.

So if they partnered up we would have a winning combination of a coach who the players respect and a tactician who has the ability to win in our confederation. Brazerly is a solid and safe choice, but Roman is a better one.

13 Mar 01:34
Feverphin wrote:


I would support a Emblen - Roman duo. I mean the current players seem to speak highly of Emblen and younger players also mention him regularly as being a great mentor (Burfoot interview on ASB Prem. website.) Roman on the other hand does play a very attractive and winning style of football which New Zealand can certainly benefit from. He also knows how to win in the Pacific as he has shown with Auckland City in the O-league. We may not be in Oceania for much longer but we are for this upcoming WC qualifying campaign so it would be ideal to have him on board. He also has the reputation of being extremely studious by putting the hours in to study the opposition which has certainly helped Auckland City in their Club's World Cup campaigns.

So if they partnered up we would have a winning combination of a coach who the players respect and a tactician who has the ability to win in our confederation. Brazerly is a solid and safe choice, but Roman is a better one.

The name is Ramon

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

13 Mar 02:02

Any player with half a brain and a desire to continue playing is, of course,  going to speak highly of any coach with half a chance of getting an upcoming job. Moss for example was never going to say "I am happy to be captain, but really don't think Emblen is up to the job. A rather  career limiting move I would have thought. 


I am not saying that is anything like what he or others think, but what a player says about a coach in public can, in many ways be totally disregarded.

13 Mar 02:46

Roman tho ..does sound imperial ...

13 Mar 02:56

Valid point Jeff. The amount of Phoenix plays that have given the appearance of doing that with Ricki is actually screamingly obvious

Grumpy old bastard alert

13 Mar 03:19
Jeff Vader wrote:

Valid point Jeff. The amount of Phoenix plays that have given the appearance of doing that with Ricki is actually screamingly obvious

 

I dont think you can just say it is an all whites or nix thing,  the only recent example I can think of where players have openly knifed the incumbent coach publically is probably Perf. The rest of the time it is "we have full confidence blah blah blah"
13 Mar 03:35
sthn.jeff wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Valid point Jeff. The amount of Phoenix plays that have given the appearance of doing that with Ricki is actually screamingly obvious

 


I dont think you can just say it is an all whites or nix thing,  the only recent example I can think of where players have openly knifed the incumbent coach publically is probably Perf. The rest of the time it is "we have full confidence blah blah blah"



Yip, back stabbing gits.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

13 Mar 03:41
Jerzy Merino wrote:
Feverphin wrote:


I would support a Emblen - Roman duo. I mean the current players seem to speak highly of Emblen and younger players also mention him regularly as being a great mentor (Burfoot interview on ASB Prem. website.) Roman on the other hand does play a very attractive and winning style of football which New Zealand can certainly benefit from. He also knows how to win in the Pacific as he has shown with Auckland City in the O-league. We may not be in Oceania for much longer but we are for this upcoming WC qualifying campaign so it would be ideal to have him on board. He also has the reputation of being extremely studious by putting the hours in to study the opposition which has certainly helped Auckland City in their Club's World Cup campaigns.

So if they partnered up we would have a winning combination of a coach who the players respect and a tactician who has the ability to win in our confederation. Brazerly is a solid and safe choice, but Roman is a better one.

The name is Ramon

Damn! Autocorrect!

18 Mar 06:29
Just watched TV 3 news with Ramon putting on his sales pitch for the role. The first time I have heard him speak, very articulate, sounds like a professor of the game and if you didn't know better sounds like a kiwi. He does however think there are 4 players out there, in problem positions that no one has heard of who will do a job for us. It could be an interesting job interview for him.



Auckland will rise once more

18 Mar 08:19

Anyone else being considered? I haven't heard any names.



18 Mar 08:50

Who would those players be? Surely we here on this forum are already aware of every semi decent kiwi possibility out there whether eligible or not.

Did any of his foreign ring-ins pick up kiwi citizenship while at AFCF?

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18 Mar 09:35

Nicholas Del Moro and Shay Spitz are two of them

18 Mar 09:40 · edited 18 Mar 09:41 · History

Ramon said on TV that they aren't necessarily kiwis but are eligible.

I hope he NZ Football give him a hard look.


Does anyone know why he is in NZ and has stayed here? Seems talented enough to be making a go of it elsewhere.

18 Mar 11:13
Ryan wrote:

Ramon said on TV that they aren't necessarily kiwis but are eligible.

I hope he NZ Football give him a hard look.


Does anyone know why he is in NZ and has stayed here? Seems talented enough to be making a go of it elsewhere.


I think Ramon has just given the Wynrs website a visit and listed a bunch of kids who are overseas. 
18 Mar 14:36

Ramon Tribulietx has definitely proved that he knows what he's doing with Auckland City, but I agree that some of the comments he's made about "eligible" NZ players abroad are a bit suspicious.

18 Mar 23:58
Just watched TV 3 news with Ramon putting on his sales pitch for the role. The first time I have heard him speak, very articulate, sounds like a professor of the game and if you didn't know better sounds like a kiwi. He does however think there are 4 players out there, in problem positions that no one has heard of who will do a job for us. It could be an interesting job interview for him.


Cute.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."