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The next All Whites coach

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27 Jul 20:42

Sky Sports understands English coach Anthony Hudson has resigned from his position as Bahrain manager.

The 33-year-old was brought in to coach the Bahrain Under-23 team in March 2012 by Peter Taylor and he lead the country to their first-ever U23 title in the Gulf Cup of Nations, before being given the senior job last August.

Hudson has carried on his impressive work with the U23 team into the senior set-up, leading the national team to qualification for the 2015 Asian Cup in Australia.

The former Newport County boss has been earning a reputation as one of the brightest coaches around, having become the youngest coach to take the FIFA Pro Licence, and he has spent time studying the likes of Jose Mourinho and Marcelo Bielsa.

However, it appears that Hudson may be moving on after handing in his resignation, with the Bahrain FA yet to announce if they will accept.

27 Jul 21:06

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9396952/english-coach-anthony-hudson-resigns-as-bahrain-manager

Grumpy old bastard alert

27 Jul 21:45

NZF acting the cougar on this one, he has no idea how high maintenance though.....

27 Jul 22:17
27 Jul 23:15

Young squad and coach, fills me with excitement. I am concerned but not entirely surprised that Egmond and Farina got this far. Guess we will have to wait and see, looks certain though.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

27 Jul 23:40

Really like the sound of Anthony Hudson (much more so than GVE and Farina). But to be fair, is it really surprising that two A-League coaches beat someone like Ramon and Emblen who haven't even coached at a professional level yet. Yes, Ramon seems like he's a smart, tactical coach, but that's all been for a amateur side.

27 Jul 23:45

I just hope that either of Ramon or Emblen is in assistants roles. I think you can't throw Emblen out and Ramon got a fair way through it seems. Otherwise you are basically saying that there is absolutely no pathway at all whatsoever to the top job staying in NZ or through the domestic leagues.

Grumpy old bastard alert

28 Jul 00:10

Luis Garcia wrote:

Really like the sound of Anthony Hudson (much more so than GVE and Farina). But to be fair, is it really surprising that two A-League coaches beat someone like Ramon and Emblen who haven't even coached at a professional level yet. Yes, Ramon seems like he's a smart, tactical coach, but that's all been for a amateur side.

But in a lot of ways coaching ACFC is more like coaching the AWs than coaching an A League club is. Lots of games against teams you expect to beat, trips to the Islands, then games against teams that on paper are a lot better than you (at the CWC in ACFC's case). Obviously Farina had that experience a bit for Aussie though, but in combination with the style that Ramon plays I think he was actually quite a strong candidate.

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28 Jul 00:50
I like the idea we're getting someone on the way up rather than someone on the way down, or someone who peaked at mediocrity.
E + R + O

28 Jul 01:08

Azevo wrote:

Young squad and coach, fills me with excitement. 

Couldn't agree more. I just hope he gets the support to expand the AW program to play as many internationals/friendlies as possible in his first 12 months.

28 Jul 02:29 · edited 28 Jul 02:36 · History

TV wrote:

Ramon and neil duo was best idea. Ramon basically has same philosophy of hudson with prob more pedigree

Ramon definitely has much more senior club coaching experience than Hudson whose CV reads "coached one struggling minor league club in the US for two seasons; coached a Conference Premier side for five months until sacked after gaining eight points from 12 games."

Seems to me NZF are falling for the hype surrounding a basically quite unproven young manager. He was coach of Bahrain u-23 for one year and has been in charge of the senior team for eleven months.

Still, he seems to have done well with the Bahrain sides. He's a very inexperienced young manager though so it seems a risky appointment to me. I give him a lot of credit for moral integrity though for quitting the Bahrain gig (I'm assuming due to being unhappy at the oppressive political regime who have even jailed some members of the u-23 national side Hudson coached) .He's giving up a much bigger pay packet than NZF would be offering. Things are really bad in Bahrain for many people, including sports people.

It's fourteen months until October next year when he has to guide the AW's through World Cup qualifying / doubling as OFC Nations Cup (Confederations Cup) qualifying. 

Seems to me he'll be a young guy with a lot of time on his hands the next 14 months before the AW's have a competitive international with probably very few friendlies lined up. I don't know if this is good coaching gig for a young beginner. There'll be some months in between a few days  actually coaching the team here and there.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

28 Jul 03:50

If Hudson gets the job I wish him well as we need someone that has good coaching skills  to take us through to the next WC.

His coaching success is unfortunately worse than Terry Butcher at 32% win rate.

I guess he will be able to call on his famous father Alan if he needs some advise.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

28 Jul 06:18

Leggy wrote:

If Hudson gets the job I wish him well as we need someone that has good coaching skills  to take us through to the next WC.

His coaching success is unfortunately worse than Terry Butcher at 32% win rate.

I guess he will be able to call on his famous father Alan if he needs some advise.

Plus all of us on yellowfever.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

28 Jul 06:19

I guess he will be able to call on his famous father Alan if he needs some advise.

The only advice Alan Hudson could give his son was how to drink copious amounts of booze and screw up your career...

"Self-defence is an art I cultivate"

28 Jul 07:27

Ray Hicks wrote:

I guess he will be able to call on his famous father Alan if he needs some advise.

The only advice Alan Hudson could give his son was how to drink copious amounts of booze and screw up your career...

On disability benefit plus pension living in a hostel for the homeless.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

28 Jul 07:44

TV3 link on homepage:


Anthony Hudson, a 33-year old Englishman described as a "young Jose Mourinho", is set to be the next All Whites Coach, after he resigned from his current job.

Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/All-Whites-target-ends-Bahrain-spell/tabid/415/articleID/354377/Default.aspx#ixzz38kN2Jj4W

Wasn't that how AVB was described?

F*cksticks!

"Phoenix till they lose"

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28 Jul 07:51

is anyone else concerned that a guy with next to no record that we know bugger all about has come out on top of a very poor pool of options?

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28 Jul 08:09

Relax  NZF couldn't possibly fuck this up

                                                                        COYN    

28 Jul 08:12

reg22 wrote:

is anyone else concerned that a guy with next to no record that we know bugger all about has come out on top of a very poor pool of options?

yes. But funnily enough I don't think anyone else is. Now he is in (allegedly) a couple of people seem to be going hmmm. But until now everyone hears 'young Mourinho' and creams their pants. Rediculous

Founder

28 Jul 09:09

Feverish wrote:

reg22 wrote:

is anyone else concerned that a guy with next to no record that we know bugger all about has come out on top of a very poor pool of options?

yes. But funnily enough I don't think anyone else is. Now he is in (allegedly) a couple of people seem to be going hmmm. But until now everyone hears 'young Mourinho' and creams their pants. Rediculous


What I do like is that it's a break from the past.  We need some different influences in NZ football beyond the traditional British approach and values.  It's a positive step that guys like Ramon and this guy subscribe to a different version of the game.  If we had Van Egmond or Farina, while I don't think it would be a disaster, it would be more of the same.  Not guarantee of success, but at least what this guy should do with the team is going to be a lot closer to what the better European based players are hearing week in and week out at their clubs

Normo's coming home

28 Jul 09:25

Junior82 wrote:

TV3 link on homepage:


Anthony Hudson, a 33-year old Englishman described as a "young Jose Mourinho", is set to be the next All Whites Coach, after he resigned from his current job.

Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/All-Whites-target-ends-Bahrain-spell/tabid/415/articleID/354377/Default.aspx#ixzz38kN2Jj4W

Wasn't that how AVB was described?

F*cksticks!

pretty sure we'd all be pretty happy with AVB

28 Jul 10:59

I was happy with AVB at first...

"Phoenix till they lose"

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28 Jul 17:26

james dean wrote:

Feverish wrote:

reg22 wrote:

is anyone else concerned that a guy with next to no record that we know bugger all about has come out on top of a very poor pool of options?

yes. But funnily enough I don't think anyone else is. Now he is in (allegedly) a couple of people seem to be going hmmm. But until now everyone hears 'young Mourinho' and creams their pants. Rediculous


What I do like is that it's a break from the past.  We need some different influences in NZ football beyond the traditional British approach and values.  It's a positive step that guys like Ramon and this guy subscribe to a different version of the game.  If we had Van Egmond or Farina, while I don't think it would be a disaster, it would be more of the same.  Not guarantee of success, but at least what this guy should do with the team is going to be a lot closer to what the better European based players are hearing week in and week out at their clubs

This

If you checkout this guys interviews on YT you get a sense where he is at football wise. He is actually very non traditional British in his outlook. He adores modern Spanish football and the way Latins countries play the game. He has studied with Beilsa in Argentina and under Mourinho.

One thing that really comes across is his passion for the game and the way he thinks it should be played. I would support his appointment on two levels

1, He's not Sanchez or Butcher or Farina or any of the other hacks mooted

2, His football philosophy is in perfect alignment with the young talent that is coming through in NZ football.

The only doubts I would have would be on his commitment time wise. He is hugely ambitious(which is great) and he said he wants to be a coach at senior European level within five years. So it appears that he may not be around for long. You don't make it to coaching big time in Europe by swanning around in the backwaters of Oceania for too long. He will expect and demand All White games...and it will be interesting to see how NZF respond. 

However his job includes overseeing and coordinating football across the age groups in NZ. If he can stay long enough to implement a modern football style on the NZ game then he may have a significant impact on the game here.

28 Jul 18:59

austin10 wrote:

james dean wrote:

Feverish wrote:

reg22 wrote:

is anyone else concerned that a guy with next to no record that we know bugger all about has come out on top of a very poor pool of options?

yes. But funnily enough I don't think anyone else is. Now he is in (allegedly) a couple of people seem to be going hmmm. But until now everyone hears 'young Mourinho' and creams their pants. Rediculous


What I do like is that it's a break from the past.  We need some different influences in NZ football beyond the traditional British approach and values.  It's a positive step that guys like Ramon and this guy subscribe to a different version of the game.  If we had Van Egmond or Farina, while I don't think it would be a disaster, it would be more of the same.  Not guarantee of success, but at least what this guy should do with the team is going to be a lot closer to what the better European based players are hearing week in and week out at their clubs

This

If you checkout this guys interviews on YT you get a sense where he is at football wise. He is actually very non traditional British in his outlook. He adores modern Spanish football and the way Latins countries play the game. He has studied with Beilsa in Argentina and under Mourinho.

One thing that really comes across is his passion for the game and the way he thinks it should be played. I would support his appointment on two levels

1, He's not Sanchez or Butcher or Farina or any of the other hacks mooted

2, His football philosophy is in perfect alignment with the young talent that is coming through in NZ football.

The only doubts I would have would be on his commitment time wise. He is hugely ambitious(which is great) and he said he wants to be a coach at senior European level within five years. So it appears that he may not be around for long. You don't make it to coaching big time in Europe by swanning around in the backwaters of Oceania for too long. He will expect and demand All White games...and it will be interesting to see how NZF respond. 

However his job includes overseeing and coordinating football across the age groups in NZ. If he can stay long enough to implement a modern football style on the NZ game then he may have a significant impact on the game here.

Thats exactly how I see it (along with what JD wrote). People always whinge about more of the same and this is certainly not that. Its bold and it could pancake on us and if so, there are options to fallback on. However if this comes off......

I would also not dismiss other coaches (and hopefully NZ based assistants) exposure to a different way of thinking from working under him. That could be a very big benefit to us rather than 'the English longball game' which is so embedded in parts of our football psyche

Grumpy old bastard alert

29 Jul 01:02

austin10 wrote:
[Hudson] is hugely ambitious (which is great) and he said he wants to be a coach at senior European level within five years. So it appears that he may not be around for long. You don't make it to coaching big time in Europe by swanning around in the backwaters of Oceania for too long.
My thoughts exactly. I've wondered how NZ fits into Hudson's career plan. Maybe he views getting the AWs to the Confederations Cup in 2017 as more likely than doing anything notable with Bahrain. The Confed Cup would be good for his CV, and would give him experience and exposure at a senior international tournament outside the AFC.

This isn't meant as a criticism of Hudson's possible motives, besides, hopefully NZ football will benefit too.

29 Jul 01:28
He wants to take a team to the World Cup as that will look great on his CV. Then he's off - whether successful or not.
E + R + O

29 Jul 02:30

SurgeQld wrote:
He wants to take a team to the World Cup as that will look great on his CV. Then he's off - whether successful or not.

I wouldn't have an issue with that. Hopefully Neil Emblen and Ramon would be assisting him along the way and could then maybe take over!

29 Jul 04:17

Mmmmm, a playing career including 10 games with the Wilmington Hammerheads.

Maybe that was him doing a bit of scouting at the stadium on Saturday pretending to be a mascot.

I know, I know, its serious!

29 Jul 07:53

hamezilla wrote:

Relax  NZF couldn't possibly fuck this up

Lol

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29 Jul 07:58 · edited 29 Jul 07:58 · History

I'm still not sold on him.  CV is just too weak.

He has said a lot but not done much in my eyes.  I love latin football, does not mean I can coach it or play like them.  If he is our choice I hope NZF have contingencies in place for when he fails/quits/joins a League 2 side as an academy coach etc.

Hudson please prove me wrong and serve me a big slice of humble pie.

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30 Jul 03:12

seems like all you have to do to keep some people happy is say that 'i like spanish football'

the reality is that the whole world has moved on from the long ball.  any coach anywhere needs to be well versed in how to use the ball properly or he will never get a job anywhere

both emblen and ramon are advocates of usign the ball properly, so i'm assuming there's a lot more to this chap than 'i really really like spain'

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30 Jul 03:18

reg22 wrote:

seems like all you have to do to keep some people happy is say that 'i like spanish football'

the reality is that the whole world has moved on from the long ball.  any coach anywhere needs to be well versed in how to use the ball properly or he will never get a job anywhere

both emblen and ramon are advocates of usign the ball properly, so i'm assuming there's a lot more to this chap than 'i really really like spain'

Declan uses the word Barcelona a lot and I can assure you that most people he crosses paths with aren't always happy. Whats his teams won over the last 5 years again?

Grumpy old bastard alert

30 Jul 04:34
Probably the NZ coach with the best chance of having one of his players play for Barcelona though.....
30 Jul 04:38

Probably the NZ coach with the best chance of having one of his players play for Barcelona though.....

Great when the objective is to develop players, not particularly relevant when the objective is to get results. Yes one leads to the other and they're not mutually exclusive, but at the end of the day, it's the results that count, particularly at national level.

30 Jul 04:59

Is everyone ignoring the fact he also said he admires Mourinho? Not exactly an exponent of tika tika.... 

Maybe he just likes coaches who are more thoughtful about tactical approaches and setups, people who study the game, come up with a plan, and implement it effectively. Or in other words, not just deciding on a formation and shoehorning players into it *ahem* Killen at DM *ahem*

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30 Jul 20:20

Sounds like Bahrain want to keep him and they can offer a lot more money...

But the Bahrain Football Association insist the man likened by Harry Redknapp to a "young Jose Mourinho" remains committed to his contract with the Kingdom.

The BFA issued a statement yesterday revealing it had received a letter from Hudson in which he requested an "amendment" to his contract and confirmed he had received an offer to coach New Zealand.

But the BFA said it was confident Hudson would coach Bahrain at November's Gulf Cup and January's Asian Cup.

Andy Martin, NZF's chief executive, said the incoming coach would be in place for September's away game against Uzbekistan.


Might not be a done deal yet.

30 Jul 20:25

Another shambles like mcglinchey. Whats bet emblen is in place as interim again in sept


30 Jul 21:06

Trainwreck?  Or Someone's on drugs?

I know, I know, its serious!

30 Jul 21:24

it ain't over till it's over, but it sounds like mr hudson is about to get a new mercedes

it's a pity, because (jokes) he once sat in the stand behind the chelsea dugout and also likes to holiday in spain

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