All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
LOL watch all the other candidates drop out when they find out that its $125,000 per year....not per month!!!!!!
Can't see the Bahrain FA releasing this guy until after the Asia Cup in Oz next summer......his contract is up in June 2015. Ramon might be interim coach until then...who knows
I don't think that's fair to a coach to do that to them nor does it give the national side a chance to have a proper build up. It needs to be appointed now and be done properly
Grumpy old bastard alert
Grumpy old bastard alert
I expect he has applied. NZF wouldnt go off after someone else at the sharp end of an employment process.... oh wait
NZF have not denied it, so perhaps that strengthens the case for his having applied.
I would not be happy to see that in the paper if I was in the last 3.
Someone said on here that Ryan Nelson suggested that the NZF go after him. Seems to me like its head hunting.
Like the sound of this Hudson guy. Young and hungry.....just what we need. Light on coaching experiance but has done some good work in Bahrain.
Just wondering though......In June 2013 he signed a two year extension as Bahrain national coach....so he's locked in until June 2015. He coached Bahrain to qualify for the 2015 Asian Cup in Australia.
Why would you give up the chance to coach Bahrain at a major international competition? Bahrain play WC qualifiers in Asia, NZ play in Oceania. Bigger games against better opposition in Asia.
Why would you give up a big middle eastern salary to coach the Aw's for $125,000???? per year.
Why would the Bahrain FA tear up a contract for the guy who has got them the best results in ages?(he was offered another 2 year extension in Feb 2014 so Bahrain want to keep him)
If this guy is ready to walk out on his Bahrain contact after 18 months is he just as likely to walk out on his AW contract early?. Especially when he sees what a dog the whole NZF/Oceania setup is.
Still....if we get him and he stays, he appears to be a much better option than some of the other names we have heard.
Perhaps he (or his family) don't like being in the vicinity of an increasingly imploding Syria/Iraq war front that looks likely to descend into a region-wide sectarian war soon. I bet there are a lot of nervous ex-pats in the Gulf and Saudi who are looking for safer bolt holes right now, irrespective of the money.
Like the sound of this Hudson guy. Young and hungry.....just what we need. Light on coaching experiance but has done some good work in Bahrain.
Just wondering though......In June 2013 he signed a two year extension as Bahrain national coach....so he's locked in until June 2015. He coached Bahrain to qualify for the 2015 Asian Cup in Australia.
Why would you give up the chance to coach Bahrain at a major international competition? Bahrain play WC qualifiers in Asia, NZ play in Oceania. Bigger games against better opposition in Asia.
Why would you give up a big middle eastern salary to coach the Aw's for $125,000???? per year.
Why would the Bahrain FA tear up a contract for the guy who has got them the best results in ages?(he was offered another 2 year extension in Feb 2014 so Bahrain want to keep him)
If this guy is ready to walk out on his Bahrain contact after 18 months is he just as likely to walk out on his AW contract early?. Especially when he sees what a dog the whole NZF/Oceania setup is.
Still....if we get him and he stays, he appears to be a much better option than some of the other names we have heard.
Perhaps he (or his family) don't like being in the vicinity of an increasingly imploding Syria/Iraq war front that looks likely to descend into a region-wide sectarian war soon. I bet there are a lot of nervous ex-pats in the Gulf and Saudi who are looking for safer bolt holes right now, irrespective of the money.
Plus Bahrain itself hasn't been the most stable country in recent years, lots of government over reacting to very peaceful protests, including people being shot by the government at a funeral a few years ago.
Good point that.
Like the sound of this Hudson guy. Young and hungry.....just what we need. Light on coaching experiance but has done some good work in Bahrain.
Just wondering though......In June 2013 he signed a two year extension as Bahrain national coach....so he's locked in until June 2015. He coached Bahrain to qualify for the 2015 Asian Cup in Australia.
Why would you give up the chance to coach Bahrain at a major international competition? Bahrain play WC qualifiers in Asia, NZ play in Oceania. Bigger games against better opposition in Asia.
Why would you give up a big middle eastern salary to coach the Aw's for $125,000???? per year.
Why would the Bahrain FA tear up a contract for the guy who has got them the best results in ages?(he was offered another 2 year extension in Feb 2014 so Bahrain want to keep him)
If this guy is ready to walk out on his Bahrain contact after 18 months is he just as likely to walk out on his AW contract early?. Especially when he sees what a dog the whole NZF/Oceania setup is.
Still....if we get him and he stays, he appears to be a much better option than some of the other names we have heard.
Perhaps he (or his family) don't like being in the vicinity of an increasingly imploding Syria/Iraq war front that looks likely to descend into a region-wide sectarian war soon. I bet there are a lot of nervous ex-pats in the Gulf and Saudi who are looking for safer bolt holes right now, irrespective of the money.
Plus Bahrain itself hasn't been the most stable country in recent years, lots of government over reacting to very peaceful protests, including people being shot by the government at a funeral a few years ago.
Good point that.
Bahrain is "stable" precisely because they have a government that like that. Arab spring was snuffed out asap over there. I definitely wouldn't live there.
I expect he has applied. NZF wouldnt go off after someone else at the sharp end of an employment process.... oh wait
NZF have not denied it, so perhaps that strengthens the case for his having applied.
I would not be happy to see that in the paper if I was in the last 3.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Yep NZ going after him. Seems unlikely at best.
Plenty of good coaches after a job at the end of the world cup I'm sure. Just as long as they don't go after the likes of Luiz Felipe Scolari.
Luiz Felipe Scolari rumoured to be suddenly interested in the NZF job. "I need to be alone." (transl)
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Vicelich has told NZF he is keen to be involved should Tribulietx drop out of the race."
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10246039/Bahrain-coach-tipped-to-take-over-the-All-Whites
Bit nervous about his now. Although guess this means Roman is in the final three.
From what I've heard Ramon is presently holidaying in Spain - which may or may not affect the timing of the announcement.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Well they did say that is was affected by the WC being on but that could just be an excuse for what your are saying Jerzy
Grumpy old bastard alert
Vicelich has told NZF he is keen to be involved should Tribulietx drop out of the race."
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10246039/Bahrain-coach-tipped-to-take-over-the-All-Whites
Bit nervous about his now. Although guess this means Roman is in the final three.
From what I've heard Ramon is presently holidaying in Spain - which may or may not affect the timing of the announcement.
As long as he's holidaying in Barcelona it will definitely increase his chances of being signed.
Is this all a cunning plan by the NZF old guard to get us pining for the stolid certainty of Ricki's reign? Baldrick would be impressed.
Vicelich has told NZF he is keen to be involved should Tribulietx drop out of the race."
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10246039/Bahrain-coach-tipped-to-take-over-the-All-Whites
Bit nervous about his now. Although guess this means Roman is in the final three.
From what I've heard Ramon is presently holidaying in Spain - which may or may not affect the timing of the announcement.
LOL...someone should tell Ramon that being AW coach is not like coaching Auckland.....you can't just sign a whole bunch of Spaniards!!!!!
Blue magic, you've cracked it! NZF have employed Baldrick as a consultant. "I have a cunning plan!"
Kotahitanga. We are one.
Like the sound of this Hudson guy. Young and hungry.....just what we need. Light on coaching experiance but has done some good work in Bahrain.
Just wondering though......In June 2013 he signed a two year extension as Bahrain national coach....so he's locked in until June 2015. He coached Bahrain to qualify for the 2015 Asian Cup in Australia.
Why would you give up the chance to coach Bahrain at a major international competition? Bahrain play WC qualifiers in Asia, NZ play in Oceania. Bigger games against better opposition in Asia.
Why would you give up a big middle eastern salary to coach the Aw's for $125,000???? per year.
Why would the Bahrain FA tear up a contract for the guy who has got them the best results in ages?(he was offered another 2 year extension in Feb 2014 so Bahrain want to keep him)
If this guy is ready to walk out on his Bahrain contact after 18 months is he just as likely to walk out on his AW contract early?. Especially when he sees what a dog the whole NZF/Oceania setup is.
Still....if we get him and he stays, he appears to be a much better option than some of the other names we have heard.
Perhaps he (or his family) don't like being in the vicinity of an increasingly imploding Syria/Iraq war front that looks likely to descend into a region-wide sectarian war soon. I bet there are a lot of nervous ex-pats in the Gulf and Saudi who are looking for safer bolt holes right now, irrespective of the money.
Plus Bahrain itself hasn't been the most stable country in recent years, lots of government over reacting to very peaceful protests, including people being shot by the government at a funeral a few years ago.
Good point that.
In fact, several of the Bahrain players the All Whites faced in 2009 were jailed and tortured by the regime in the following few years after they were seen as implicated in protests against the regime. One of the national team had to leave the country and ended up in the A-League.
Arrests have continued since then until now - Anthony Hudson may now have finally realised what is going on and how he is being used by a corrupt regime (the Sunni ruling family maintain an oppressive rule over the Shi'ite majority).
Several footballers and other athletes remain in jail and more were jailed in more recent months.
Some players NZ played in 2009 remain banned from ever playing for Bahrain - surely FIFA should expel Bahrain for government interference in its football? FIFA has done this before.
Three national youth team players have been arrested and one jailed for five years (Hudson was previously Bahrain u-23 coach).
He must know about all this.
Report in the Turkish (free uncensored) media from January this year:
" [Bahrain] Football officials and critics of the government say football and other sports suffer from a lack of planning as a result of politicization. “There are no sports since the uprising. Matches serve as PR to show Bahrain is back to normal,” Mr. Hayyat said. “We have lost qualified managers. As a result, football suffers,” added a football official...."
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/bahrain-detains-f...
BAHRAIN DETAINS FOOTBALL TEAM AND SCORES OF PLAYERS AND ATHLETES
January 6 2014
[Edited by me - highlights of longer article]
...In one of the latest rounds of detentions, authorities lifted three football and two handball players of al-Ittifaq Maqaba, a sports club in Diraz, a hot spot of continued protest against the government, the sources said. They said the athletes – football players Bahr Mohammed Jawad, Hassan Abdullah Marhoum, Qassem Habib Abdullah and handball players Ahmed Abdel Jalil and Ibrahim Juma’a – had been arrested in a Dec. 5, 3 am raid on Diraz, one of the frequent sweeps of the area. They said the athletes were among an estimated ten people taken away by security forces. The athletes were suspected of participating in an illegal gathering, the activists and journalists said.
A sixth athlete, Ahmed Fallah, a goalkeeper for al-Budaiya FC in the coastal town of Budaiya, which like its neighbor Diraz, remains a hot bed of anti-government sentiment, was last month detained around the same time as the others, but has since been released.
The five detained athletes join an estimated 50 sports people being held in prison since the 2011 uprising. Their detentions are in addition to 150 athletes and sports officials, including three national football team players, who were arrested or fired from their jobs during the crackdown on the revolt. Most of those were quickly released and reinstated. Two of three national team players, who were at the time publicly denounced on television as spies, traitors and asserted that they had been tortured in prison, play for local clubs but were not allowed to rejoin the national squad.
Among those detained since is the whole squad of the al-Ekar Youth Center in the village of al-Ekar. The 17-member team was detained in October 2012 in a security operation following a bombing in which a police officer was killed. Opposition groups said the arrests had been arbitrary.
Other detained athletes include al-Ahli and national football youth team players Ahmed Hassan Abdul Wahab, Younis Hader and Jaffar al-Asfoor, national youth handball team player Ali Almolani, beach volleyball midfielder Ridha Abdul Hussain, and Bahrain gymnastics champion Hussein Abdul Ghani.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
All Whites coach update: my understanding is that Frank Farina is one of three candidates shortlisted for the vacant position.
— Andrew Gourdie (@Andrew_Gourdie) July 13, 2014
This
Can we assume that if that is correct and that Ivan stood aside from the selection panel because of a conflict of interest.......that the last three are Hudson, Farina and Ramon???
This
Can we assume that if that is correct and that Ivan stood aside from the selection panel because of a conflict of interest.......that the last three are Hudson, Farina and Ramon???
I really hope that there is a candidate in the last 3 that has not popped up in the media yet.
Farnia, yeah right; Ramon, will struggle sans Spanish ring-ins and Hudson, too inexperienced for me and to get dumped by Newport County says he has lots to learn before leading a half decent national team with potential premadonnas in it.
I never expected nz football to get this right
They can only choose from whoever applied. So much dross. But what do you expect for $125,000 annual salary in the World of Football? That's what Cappello earns in 3 days.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I'll take the positives.
He's a shit cunt who used to coach the Socceroos badly.
I'll take the positives.
He's a shit cunt who used to coach the Socceroos badly.
Didn't do too badly considering he was probably drunk.
I'll take the positives.
He's a shit cunt who used to coach the Socceroos badly.
Reasoned , balanced [ both chips / shoulders neatly aligned ]
All one expects from a HN post ....
Reasoned , balanced [ both chips / shoulders neatly aligned ]
All one expects from a HN post ....
Farina would set us back to Ricki days but like I said a while back, he ticks all their boxes....
Grumpy old bastard alert
Reasoned , balanced [ both chips / shoulders neatly aligned ]
All one expects from a HN post ....
Farina would set us back to Ricki days but like I said a while back, he ticks all their boxes....
WHY ARE ALL THE BOXES RICKI-SHAPED.
Was the leak that NZFootball were chasing Anthony Hudson their way of saying 'look we tried getting someone better' so they don't get so much stick when it turns out the final 3 contains people like Frank Farina?
Hudson seems to have done quite well with the Bahrain u23 and senior team, but if he's unavailable hopefully they appoint Ramon.
Unlikely. Story cam from the Mirror. Imagine they would have some connections with English coaches and their agents.
Hopefully Farina goes to Fiji instead.
We will never fully decide who has won the football.
Makes sense. I guess he/his agent is probably using the opportunity to raise his profile in the UK by being 'in-demand' in the hope of getting a job offer later when he's finished with his Bahrain stint.
