All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
maybe Mexico will get complacent, we'll bang in a couple of early goals and they'll fall to pieces. If we do start our young fullas Mexico might also be completely surprised at the difference, and on top of the travel they might choke big time.
Modern science must be pretty close to genetically engineering flying pigs by now
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
still waiting to see what Herbert had to say, and more interested to see if any Nz Journo asked him the hard questions, or
was it just the usual fluff?
Team for the second leg :-)
Well that escalated quickly....
sack ricki
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
Far too much angst in here. Not sure what people expected. Always going to be a tough battle regardless of the team selection, formation and strategy.
QFT
maybe Mexico will get complacent, we'll bang in a couple of early goals and they'll fall to pieces. If we do start our young fullas Mexico might also be completely surprised at the difference, and on top of the travel they might choke big time.
Modern science must be pretty close to genetically engineering flying pigs by now
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
What a shame we can't play this team next week:
Moss
Tuiloma Boxall Smith Roux
Payne James
Rojas McGlinchey Kosta
Wood
Subs: Howieson, Spoonley, Henderson, Keat, Smeltz
Kotahitanga. We are one.
Think we just have to accept that we are four goals worse than a decent Mexican team.
still waiting to see what Herbert had to say, and more interested to see if any Nz Journo asked him the hard questions, or
was it just the usual fluff?
What a shame we can't play this team next week:
Moss
Tuiloma Boxall Smith Roux
Payne James
Rojas McGlinchey Kosta
Wood
Subs: Howieson, Spoonley, Henderson, Keat, Smeltz
Tab are the world biggest stingy motherfu****s.
Only offering Nz now 25 to one to make the world cup, and and NZ are just $4.40 to win in wellington.
On a better note, mexico to win in wellington are 1.75
still waiting to see what Herbert had to say, and more interested to see if any Nz Journo asked him the hard questions, or
was it just the usual fluff?
If we were to win on aggregate after losing 5-1 and go through to Brazil, it would be one of the biggest upsets in sporting history in my opinion.
We should tell Dean Barker that. Might make him feel better :)
Far too much angst in here. Not sure what people expected. Always going to be a tough battle regardless of the team selection, formation and strategy.
QFT
Who else should he have picked then?
Apart from Siggy for Christie that was the best side we had available. Instead of scapegoating some people need to accept that we just don't have 11 players good enough.
Maybe we can find what that Indoesnian ref is doing who did the kuwait game all those years ago?
Tab are the world biggest stingy motherfu****s.
Only offering Nz now 25 to one to make the world cup, and and NZ are just $4.40 to win in wellington.
On a better note, mexico to win in wellington are 1.75
1.75 is good considering the evidence.
Won't last long so on it for $100
We didnt really show up...although Im not saying we would definately have won, but it was just such a slack performance. The more skilled players coming on made a difference (James, Rojas) and we need to bring more of that type into the team. Lets try to keep the ball more, in the second half it was getting better...but the marking was horrid...conceding basically 4 goals from crosses (3 headers and the first goal from a panic header from Durante playing too deep) aint good enough, especially when thats supposed to be the one thing we are good at. I hope we play a 4/3/3 or similar in Wellington and have a go...we probably wont get 4-0, but even if we get a victory, that will be something to build on....Here is something to hold on to...the last time Mexico came to NZ, we won....4-0...anyone praying for a miracle, start attending the alter now LOL
Far too much angst in here. Not sure what people expected. Always going to be a tough battle regardless of the team selection, formation and strategy.
QFT
Agreed.
And anyone booing Herbert anywhere near me at Westpac is going to get a punch in the face (or possibly just a menacing glare).
Yes, he's run out of ideas and yes, it's time to go but he's done a lot for football in NZ and doesn't deserve that crap.
Far too much angst in here. Not sure what people expected. Always going to be a tough battle regardless of the team selection, formation and strategy.
QFT
So you're saying that players who can barely string three passes together and can't attack with good structure against New Caledonia and Tahiti should have gone out all guns blazing against Mexico?
Interesting.
Who else should he have picked then?
Apart from Siggy for Christie that was the best side we had available. Instead of scapegoating some people need to accept that we just don't have 11 players good enough.
Think we just have to accept that we are four goals worse than a decent Mexican team.
didn't look particularly solid. I'd say 2 goals is probably a more realistic difference between the two sides than four
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Russia 2018 (age in brackets)
*touch and go whether they will emerge
Goalkeepers; Glen Moss (34), Jacob Spoonley (30), *Jacob Gleeson (27), *Scott Basalaj (22)
Defenders: Storm Roux (24), Bill Tuiloma (22), Michael Fitzgerald (28), *Luke Adams (23), *Michael Boxall (29), Winston Reid (29), Tommy Smith (27)
Midfielders: *Louis Fenton (24), Cameron Howieson (22), Tim Payne (23), Marco Rojas (26), Craig Henderson (30), *Alex Rufer (21), *Matthew Ridenton (21), Jason Hicks (27), Michael McGlinchey (30), Ryan Thomas (22)
Forwards: Chris Wood (25), Jeremy Brockie (30), *Tyler Boyd (22)
You simply don't play zonal marking defending against corners without a squad that haven't practiced a long time, or without a fantastic commanding CB.
Far too much angst in here. Not sure what people expected. Always going to be a tough battle regardless of the team selection, formation and strategy.
QFT
So you're saying that players who can barely string three passes together and can't attack with good structure against New Caledonia and Tahiti should have gone out all guns blazing against Mexico?
Interesting.
Who else should he have picked then?
Apart from Siggy for Christie that was the best side we had available. Instead of scapegoating some people need to accept that we just don't have 11 players good enough.
Vicelich is better than Keat. Tuiloma has not played a top-level game in his life, Roux has a handful of A-league games. They are the future, but in this type of situation most managers in the world would stick with guys who have experience and who have been there, done that.
Christie is a different story, but a fairly minor one in the big scheme of things.
Far too much angst in here. Not sure what people expected. Always going to be a tough battle regardless of the team selection, formation and strategy.
QFT
So you're saying that players who can barely string three passes together and can't attack with good structure against New Caledonia and Tahiti should have gone out all guns blazing against Mexico?
Interesting.
Not so much the tactics as to the selections, for me. Even so, maybe would have saved us a couple of goals, Mexico looked a class above.
Herbert press conference - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbFf7UvxvPs
All Whites | Phoenix | Baggies
maybe Mexico will get complacent, we'll bang in a couple of early goals and they'll fall to pieces. If we do start our young fullas Mexico might also be completely surprised at the difference, and on top of the travel they might choke big time.
Modern science must be pretty close to genetically engineering flying pigs by now
This is going up on my vision board - if I look at it enough, it will happen!!!!!
Its all set up for the Mexicans to choke, provided Herbert play the young guns...
Masters Grade aint no run in the park on a Saturday...
Far too much angst in here. Not sure what people expected. Always going to be a tough battle regardless of the team selection, formation and strategy.
QFT
Best strategy we had. Pushing further forward creates space around and behind the midfield. We aren’t good enough to press in midfield, regardless of who you put in there. Combined with the altitude, they would have passed it around our midfield with ease. Resulting in them having possession in more dangerous positions.
We needed to get players behind the ball and put the onus on them to get past two lines of 5 and 4. Let them knock the ball around in front of us and allow us to conserve energy. The longer the game stayed tight, the more pressure would have built both from the crowd and from their team.
It was working for most of that half until we coughed up two simple goals that had nothing to do the formation or strategy. If we got to the half at 0-0 it might have been different.
My complaint is with some of the hoofball played. There was a bit of space in that midfield, and they looked suspect at the back at times. For me the question is, was the strategy to get forward asap, or we did we just lack composure on the ball to take advantage of some of that space. I suspect a bit of both.
At that level of the game, we don't.
All Whites 2 Jamaica 3 at Mt Smart, featuring many present All Whites.
A game of good passing movement I thought
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
At that level of the game, we don't.
All Whites 2 Jamaica 3 at Mt Smart, featuring many present All Whites.
A game of good passing movement I thought
| United States | 10 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 15 | 8 | +7 | 22 |
| Costa Rica | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 7 | +6 | 18 |
| Honduras | 10 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 13 | 12 | +1 | 15 |
| Mexico | 10 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 9 | −2 | 11 |
| Panama | 10 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 10 | 14 | −4 | 8 |
| Jamaica | 10 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 13 | −8 | 5 |
At that level of the game, we don't.
All Whites 2 Jamaica 3 at Mt Smart, featuring many present All Whites.
A game of good passing movement I thought
Mexico are better than Jamaica, as shown in the Hex.
Not disputing that, disputing we're incapable of stringing passes together to good effect - if encouraged.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
On the plus side, at least the suspensions will force changes in the All Whites squad ... hopefully someone will give the young players a chance.
Who else should he have picked then?
Apart from Siggy for Christie that was the best side we had available. Instead of scapegoating some people need to accept that we just don't have 11 players good enough.
Vicelich is better than Keat. Tuiloma has not played a top-level game in his life, Roux has a handful of A-league games. They are the future, but in this type of situation most managers in the world would stick with guys who have experience and who have been there, done that.
Christie is a different story, but a fairly minor one in the big scheme of things.
Have you watched:
One social kick-about (we lost) to Jamaica is completely over-whelmed by pretty much every display before or since. It was an anomally.
