All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
On the plus side, at least the suspensions will force changes in the All Whites squad ... hopefully someone will give the young players a chance.
What a shame we can't play this team next week:
Moss
Tuiloma Boxall Smith Roux
Payne James
Rojas McGlinchey Kosta
Wood
Subs: Howieson, Spoonley, Henderson, Keat, Smeltz
Kotahitanga. We are one.
At that level of the game, we don't.
All Whites 2 Jamaica 3 at Mt Smart, featuring many present All Whites.
A game of good passing movement I thought
Mexico are better than Jamaica, as shown in the Hex.
Not disputing that, disputing we're incapable of stringing passes together to good effect - if encouraged.
The point your making is the lack of positive intent.
Yes. We looked as sharp as carpet
Who else should he have picked then?
Apart from Siggy for Christie that was the best side we had available. Instead of scapegoating some people need to accept that we just don't have 11 players good enough.
Vicelich is better than Keat. Tuiloma has not played a top-level game in his life, Roux has a handful of A-league games. They are the future, but in this type of situation most managers in the world would stick with guys who have experience and who have been there, done that.
Christie is a different story, but a fairly minor one in the big scheme of things.
Before they even played for the U20s?
Regardless of team selection, coaching issues and whatever else this team had no belief. I'm not sure I buy that Nelsen totally ran the show in 2010, but he did instil a huge sense of belief in the team. I remember when he signed for Blackburn and he was asked if he thought he was good enough to play in the EPL. Expecting the usual Kiwi "one game at a time, dunno mate" crap, the journo nearly choked when he replied "Yes".
I'm not saying belief is the only answer but it's one factor which will help. As we've seen recently with our age group teams, mis-placed belief in your ability is a big hindrance.
I'm over banging on about today - we sucked and we knew we would. The future does look bright, and we need to put everything in place so the potential can be fulfilled. A High Performance division of NZF needs to be set up - you can't have the same people running WOF for kids also trying to run the AWs.
Rio 2016 is our next opportunity and I'm sure we can build a team for 2018 based on that, and therefore get them playing in the next 12 months. Tuiloma, Thomas, Howieson, Payne, Rufer are some names which spring to mind as being eligible - keep the (relatively) older guys as well obviously, - Wood, Rojas, Smith, Reid, McGlinchey - and it starts to look a whole lot better than Butler, Christie, Lochhead, and their mates.
Ricki deserves a decent farewell next week for what he has done, and just like the Nix, time to move on.
Have you watched:
One social kick-about (we lost) to Jamaica is completely over-whelmed by pretty much every display before or since. It was an anomally.
Hard News = Bad News.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I am looking forward to seeing Mexico play Wednesday night. Full the Stadium No Excuss
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I am looking forward to seeing Mexico play Wednesday night. Full the Stadium No Excuss
Me too. If we score first it's all on.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
What? He's resigned?
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
His tactics were right, according to him the players just didnt execute them and made errors.
NO HERBERT IOT WAS YOUR MOTHERFUCKIN TACTICS THAT PUT US IN THIS SUITATION.
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
He's looking for some more experienced players to practise bus-parking in Wellington ?
Who else should he have picked then?
Apart from Siggy for Christie that was the best side we had available. Instead of scapegoating some people need to accept that we just don't have 11 players good enough.
Vicelich is better than Keat. Tuiloma has not played a top-level game in his life, Roux has a handful of A-league games. They are the future, but in this type of situation most managers in the world would stick with guys who have experience and who have been there, done that.
Christie is a different story, but a fairly minor one in the big scheme of things.
Before they even played for the U20s?
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
You can't make that assumption.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
NO HERBERT IOT WAS YOUR MOTHERFUCKIN TACTICS THAT PUT US IN THIS SUITATION.
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
You can't make that assumption.
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
You can't make that assumption.
watch the press conference again, Herbert went on how this is what we are good at, and its just the players that made errors he couldnt admit that he got it wrong, he talked about the players execution, but the tactics were right, what the fuck is wrong with him.
Yes, but now we're 1-5 down it's a diff ballgame. Nothing to lose.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
Have you spoken to Herbert and have him tell you this directly? Because he certainly didn't say that in his press conference.
Okay well how about this Keat's club level or Jeremy Christie's club level
Herbert wont change he will go into wellington wanting a draw to celebrate his legacy
Any Nix or All Whites game...
1. We lose
2. Angst/Irrational posts
3. YF mods telling everyone they're wrong
4. Memes/Fighting/Name calling/Poor grammar
5. People banned
Herbert wont change he will go into wellington wanting a draw to celebrate his legacy
You need to either have a few drinks or a lie-down. Just chill.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
You can't make that assumption.
watch the press conference again, Herbert went on how this is what we are good at, and its just the players that made errors he couldnt admit that he got it wrong, he talked about the players execution, but the tactics were right, what the fuck is wrong with him.
Yes, but now we're 1-5 down it's a diff ballgame. Nothing to lose.
Was nothing to lose before today's game.
Being optimistic is one thing, being delusional is quite something else.
whjat conference did you watch? I watch the bilingual one, he went on about how it was mistakes and not tactics, he going to do the same in wellington.
He said it was mistakes that cost us, which I don't disagree with. We held out well for 30 minutes until Mossy came for a ball that Dura had covered, and then we left a guy unmarked at a corner. 0-0 at the half would have been a completely different story.
But now he knows that he has to chase the game, why on earth would he play the same tactics? Sitting back and defending for a 0-0 isn't going to work this time, and Ricki knows that.
Ricki can only work with what he's got.
Without Reid it was always going to be more difficult.
I think our players were overwhelmed by the occasion.
Ricki can't do anything about us ballwatching...
Grumpy old bastard alert
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
You can't make that assumption.
watch the press conference again, Herbert went on how this is what we are good at, and its just the players that made errors he couldnt admit that he got it wrong, he talked about the players execution, but the tactics were right, what the fuck is wrong with him.
Yes, but now we're 1-5 down it's a diff ballgame. Nothing to lose.
Was nothing to lose before today's game.
Being optimistic is one thing, being delusional is quite something else.
As we have all seen with the Nix, RH is as delusional as a southern baptist
GUESS WHAT, WERE'RE GOING TO WELLINGTON WITH THE SAME TEAM TACTICS.
FUCK YOU HERBERT.
You can't make that assumption.
watch the press conference again, Herbert went on how this is what we are good at, and its just the players that made errors he couldnt admit that he got it wrong, he talked about the players execution, but the tactics were right, what the fuck is wrong with him.
Yes, but now we're 1-5 down it's a diff ballgame. Nothing to lose.
Was nothing to lose before today's game.
Being optimistic is one thing, being delusional is quite something else.
I've paid bucks to go to Welly and watch a football match. I'm not being delusional, I'm merely hopeful of seeing us play beyond the back third of the pitch. With more than one striker.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Grumpy old bastard alert
I just threw a pen at a guy who suggested we shouldve played SBW.
Vicelich not being able to mark properly in front of goal isn't really about 'mistakes', it's about 'inept'.
Any Nix or All Whites game...
1. We lose
2. Angst/Irrational posts
3. YF mods telling everyone they're wrong
4. Memes/Fighting/Name calling/Poor grammar
5. People banned
Vicelich not being able to mark properly in front of goal isn't really about 'mistakes', it's about 'inept'.
so this, saw the highlights of the last three goals and I think two of them were down to him not marking the attacking player.
Queenslander 3x a year.
Vicelich not being able to mark properly in front of goal isn't really about 'mistakes', it's about 'inept'.
so this, saw the highlights of the last three goals and I think two of them were down to him not marking the attacking player.
Agree. Well, he won't be playing in Wngtn. It's Siggy's head on the line.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
