Ernie Merrick coached Hong Kong, Frank Farina (not saying he is that fantastic) coached PNG and there is a long list of crappy small football nations with half decent coaches (better than Herbert). Yes it comes down to money but you need to spend a little to get a decent coach of the quality to get us into the confederations cup and the world cup where the prize money to qualify for these tournaments well outweighs the cost.

Ricki has done a good job for 7 years??? Really??? because since the last world cup I would think he has done a very poor job. Why does everyone seem to forget the disaster of the Oceania Cup. I don't care what excuses they had for that tournament. We were garbage and are still playing terribly. Ricki has not bought anything new to the table since the last world cup.

Its also pretty obvious that the last world cup came done to Ryan Nelsen not Ricki Herbert. Is anyone aware that while Herbert was coaching the Phoenix it wasnt uncommon for him to leave selection and tactics down to the experienced players in the team? And thats a fact.

Herbert has been carried by his experienced players for a number of years. Now he hasn't got the likes of Elliott, Brown and Nelsen to carry his ass he has become exposed and clueless.

Its going to take a miracle for us to qualify for the world cup and if we do it will not have anything to do with Herbert.

Now if Herbert has done such a good job with the Phoenix and the All Whites I am sure he will have lots of clubs chasing him. My prediction. He will never coach another professional team again.

This post has so much stoopid in it.

After Frank got dumped by Brisbane when the worst secret in AU football was let out, the only job Frank the boozer could get was in PNG. See him IRL, has all the visual signs of a hard core alcoholic. I would be surprised if he sees the year out at Sydney as well.

Please name these crappy small football nations ... that also have the same budget as NZF. Bet you can't. Hong Kong is very rich #redherring

No one has forgotten the OFC Nations Cup and from 2005 to mid 2012 is 7 years (as I said?) When was OFC Nations.... mid 2012???

The last two paragraphs.... well those are not exactly new or startling revelations now are they.

Malta is coached by the the ex assitant coach of Italy (population 30,000)

Iceland is coached by the former manager of Sweden (population 300,000)

Faroe Islands is coached by a former Danish Super League manager (population (30,000) - He has won 6 Danish Championships

Jamaica is coached Winfried Schafer, former coach of Cameroon - Cant say Jamaica has much financial clout

Trinidad and Tobago has a coach with loads more professional experience than Ricki Herbert has ever had

Alan Gillett who coached a number of Championship teams coached the Solomon Islands. Also coached England under 19s

and there a plenty of other examples.

Im not saying that good coaches grow on trees, but there is certainly a limited amount of professional coaching roles. Their is a lot more supply than there is demand and I get sick and tired of this old argument that their is nothing better and no one would want to go near the NZ national team. We heard the same arguments about finding a replacement for ricki Herbert for the Phoenix. The fact of the matter is to many people have accepted mediocre coaching and tried to defend why will never get any better.

Now we are hearing excuses saying no one would want to go the NZF role beacuse of the idiots in charge, or the fact we hardly ever play. Yeah we are right no coach would want a job where he isn't often tested and he has 2 month break in between games. The New Zealand football job would have to be one of the cruisiest national coaching roles around. Since the last world cup New Zealand football has barely been tested. Realistically New Zealand only plays 2 tough games to qualify for the World Cup. In between that we have the might of the Pacific islands. The only other test is the Confederations Cup which Herbert didn't even get close to qualifying for.

Mick Waitt didnt last past the disaster of 2004. The irony being Herbert was the one stabbing him in the back. Yet he has a similar result in 2012 and NZF barely bats an eye lid.

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over 12 years ago

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10001

BREAKING NEWS: Tommy Smith out too

Aaron Scott to slot into defensive roll for All Whites vs Mexico

Auckland City defender Aaron Scott is likely to lead the All Whites in the World Cup football playoff series against Mexico in place of the injured defensive duo of Winston Reid and Tommy Smith

All Whites coach Ricki Herbert told Fairfax Media that he spoke to an "incredibly disappointed" Reid yesterday, and Smith this morning, and the centre back could be out for "six to 10 weeks", the latter for "4 weeks or so"

Herbert said Ivan Vicelich or Marco Rojas would now take over as captain.

"Aaron has recently been involved in that position and we would like him to step up at this stage," he said. "He was incredibly disappointed to miss out on the last World Cup after being heavily involved in qualifying, and I made a gentlemen's agreement with him this time around ensuring that should we suffer losses through injuries, he would be involved in some capacity or another".

Herbert went on to elaborate "Sometimes you just need to go with whats worked in the passed [sic], as opposed to what may or may not work in the future. In this case the future holds Mexico, who are very good. Aaron has done well domestically this year and hes ready to step up."

When Stuff went on to confirm rumors of explicit images being sent to players mothers, and whether or not this was the true reason behind Reid and Smith not being involved, Herbert was immediately whisked away by Red Badge security. This comes as unfortunate timing for Herbert, in the wake of the Roast Busters sex scandal.

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over 12 years ago

Ha ha ha ha I got a good laugh out of that AJ. Had you put WaiBOP United defender Aaron Scott.....

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

'At the end of the day you haven't got who you haven't got and you can't choose who you can't choose.'

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 12 years ago

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

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over 12 years ago

LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

All Whites dressing room.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

Terry was rumored to be a good one back in the day (not a strip club).

Plenty of strip clubs on Dixon Street, vouchers often handed out at the gates after the game.

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over 12 years ago

LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

this mexico side is in the downhill road, but the problem is NZ , if nz would have done things better, this playoffs would be achievable, the main danger is the altitude factor, it seems they will use it as their extra player, thats why they didnt call up any european based masters like guardado, chicharito hernandez, the keeper ochoa and the dos santos brothers one at barça and gio at villarreal

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over 12 years ago

JAVIER16 wrote:

LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

Don't know if there was much they could do, maybe get the NZ players together every now and then for a training session in Ohakune.

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LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

lol no but seriously, look up Lexi lectricc on FB, find her at CGs after the win and you will find me.

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over 12 years ago

BTW is this the Phoenix's official song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU0Ypufo6BM

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over 12 years ago

If we qualify I will lose my shit.

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over 12 years ago

threatD wrote:

If we qualify I will lose my shit.

I say we riot in Wellington if they lose.

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over 12 years ago

LFCNZ wrote:

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

I wouldn't know about, but I have a friend...

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 12 years ago

lets be honest, its huge loss without Reid there, but his leader won't be missed and the Smith-Reid chemistry was/has been atrocious since having to step into Ryan's shoes.

yung thug

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over 12 years ago

LFCNZ wrote:

threatD wrote:

If we qualify I will lose my shit.

I say we riot in Wellington if they lose.

Burn down Ricki's house. (Too soon?)

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over 12 years ago

Sackofspuds wrote:

LFCNZ wrote:

threatD wrote:

If we qualify I will lose my shit.

I say we riot in Wellington if they lose.

Burn down Ricki's house. (Too soon?)

Too late....and no guarantee hes at home [ with or without DeJ and accomplices]....

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over 12 years ago

Hard News wrote:

LFCNZ wrote:

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

I wouldn't know about, but I have a friend...

A stripper friend?

Auckland will rise once more

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over 12 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

lol no but seriously, look up Lexi lectricc on FB, find her at CGs after the win and you will find me.

Calendar Girls doesn't have a liquor license at the moment...

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 12 years ago

ABs used to fly into JBurg day before in old days...unrealstic to train for say a week before hand...hit and run is only option. Use all the subs.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 12 years ago

ConanTroutman wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

lol no but seriously, look up Lexi lectricc on FB, find her at CGs after the win and you will find me.

Calendar Girls doesn't have a liquor license at the moment...

Ok bro. Roll up with a free pass wearing a polo shirt and jeans with only enough money for a couple of drinks, and yeah you'll be drinking apple juice. Turn up in an Italian cashmere suit with a grand cash, you'll have no problem finding yourself in the lounge sipping a nice 40yr old scotch, among other things ..

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over 12 years ago

Wow this thread is just full of stupid.

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Altitude impacts people in different forms - irrespective of fitness levels. It's all down to the individuals body and how it copes. Some people can and some can't. Whilst a sports scientist may not agree, one way is to check your nostrils. If the stuff inside is black then you are never going to be able to cope, if it's normal, then you are good to go. Check them all when you get there Ricki

Auckland will rise once more

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over 12 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

LFCNZ wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Will make the victory all the more miraculous!
Imagine the night in Wellington after we qualify!

Coming down for the game from Auckland and if we do qualify will be cocaine and strippers for me. Anyone know of a good dealer and good strip clubs in Wellington just in case the miracle happens?

lol no but seriously, look up Lexi lectricc on FB, find her at CGs after the win and you will find me.

Calendar Girls doesn't have a liquor license at the moment...

21 year old things..........

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over 12 years ago

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

People are saying Lochhead is the fittest in the team but IMO, nothing beats actually playing football to get fit. I think he will struggle.

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over 12 years ago

nufc_nz wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

People are saying Lochhead is the fittest in the team but IMO, nothing beats actually playing football to get fit. I think he will struggle.

Yeah my phone autocorrects shittest to fittest too

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over 12 years ago

Sackofspuds wrote:

Would there be much interest in Christchurch to get together at a Bar to watch the match?
I could probably organise some sort of breakfast deal and get the game on the big screen at Spectators Bar & Bistro (the usual spot for the CHCH Nix Supporters club) if there was enough interest.

Normally I would be up for it, but I am away to Auckland for a day's work on the 14th.
Count me in for the return leg.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 12 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

nufc_nz wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

People are saying Lochhead is the fittest in the team but IMO, nothing beats actually playing football to get fit. I think he will struggle.

Yeah my phone autocorrects shittest to fittest too

damn auto correct !

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over 12 years ago

Wait I just want to make sure everything is straight, I want Fitzgerald to get called up now but J-League is not the best league in Asia, it's one of the best, but not THE BEST.

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Jeff Vader wrote:

robmm1976 wrote:

newsflash : New Zealand prepared to admit that quality national coach costs money and decides to pay........just like every other country on earth does - even with the 2010 windfall there has never ever been the suggestion that a Gus Hiddink or even a Ernie Merrick might be given this full-time job and give the national team the boost it deserves.....

That's a bit OTT. You have to remember, up until mid 2012, Ricki has done a good job for 7 years. The reality is, his ideas are stale and this group probably don't respond to the same voice anymore as happens just like at the Phoenix. He (and Ryan) got us to a WC. Yes he has a flaws but like John Adshead (and his Knights fuck up) it does not make him a poor coach. It just means he is dated. He did well in his time but his time is now pretty much over (or he needs a very fresh environment to start again)

Whats a 'Hiddink' type coach going to do? Spend months researching and unearthing new talent and guys coming through? Spend time with them? Fuck off he would. He will take the team a week out from any game, demand a fortune, have his entourage run the show then stuff off. Ricki might not be perfect but he at least knows the NZ landscape. Ernie has learned the NZ landscape and found the talent by being here. Hiddink will not do that. Hiddinks way of doing things, Jason Hicks would not get a leg up, Justin Gulley and Hamish Watson would not show what they are capable of, Alex Rufer would not have doors opened for him. So you would see the same players rolled out each time until someone in the national body (likely FDJ) says 'we think you should look at this player' and then he will get taken into a camp. The national coaching job is not a fulltime job, nor paying and never will be. So you have to find a coach that is prepared to work part time for part time wages and thus, will never invest that time.

Also I'd like to add, no coach worth his salt that you speak of would take the job and the shambolic organisation of fixtures. Do you think a Hiddink type coach would tolerate the lead in we have to tournaments (OFC Nations) or that bullshit of a tour that just happened through America or give two flying fucks what Phoenix players need to be where? We'd get more exposed for being the mickey mouse organisation we already are. Durante would not have played and he would have told the national body to sort it before he picked him (which means it would not have been)

Neil Emblen coming through seems to be achieving good things (and Ryan said the Olympic campaign was excellent under him) so there are resources there that do not bankrupt us. That aside, the national side will not be seen of 2 years anyway because of costs so its pointless.

A certain Ji Sung Park was uncovered by Hiddink.

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over 12 years ago

football137 wrote:

Wait I just want to make sure everything is straight, I want Fitzgerald to get called up now but J-League is not the best league in Asia, it's one of the best, but not THE BEST.

I think you would find it's the best. The only other league comparable would be the K league.

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over 12 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

football137 wrote:

Wait I just want to make sure everything is straight, I want Fitzgerald to get called up now but J-League is not the best league in Asia, it's one of the best, but not THE BEST.

I think you would find it's the best. The only other league comparable would be the K league.

Yea, probably K-League and the J-League I agree, but people have to be aware that the Chinese Super League is continuing to grow like legit ae.

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over 12 years ago

John Matheson @johnmathesonnz

EXCLUSIVE: Winston Reid with Ian Smith, Jeff Wilson and Nathan Rarere at 7.10am on Friday on @LiveSPORTradio. His only interview.

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over 12 years ago

So if Reid is out and Smith and McGlinchey are sick with a viral infection - It pretty much means we are rooted.

Mr Positive

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over 12 years ago

Royz wrote:

So if Reid is out and Smith and McGlinchey are sick with a viral infection - It pretty much means we are rooted.

sauce?

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