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Vs Mexico 2nd Leg Wed 20th 7:00pm SS1
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Boom. Game day. Flying up with 55 Coastal Spirit players and fans to watch us win 4-0.
Game on!
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The town was full of football fans last night. Don't think anyone staying away.
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Panama made an enquiry, not a protest, after the fact surfaced in social media. The answer by FIFA was just to acknowledge they received the enquiry about the elegibility of Gimenez and that they refuse to comment (neither "no" or "yes") using as excuse art. 14, par.3. (time limit of 1 hour to protest).
But NZ is an affected third party,as such not bounded by the time limit (this is applied only to the teams involved in the match in question) and as such it can still demand FIFA to launch disciplinary measures against Mexico regarding Gimenez participation in the game against Panama, as the outcome of a forfeit, as FIFA regulations mandate in case of inelegible player, is a different playoff rival.
I know FIFA would try to avoid it, But NZ can appeal to CAS, in order to clarify the matter of the nature of Argentina participation in South America U-20 tournament in Ecuador 2001. In regulations of similar tournaments declares in art.1 that CONMEBOL organizes the tournament in behalf of FIFA, and art. 2 say participants are the 10 federations of CONMEBOL. For me that means every match in the tournament is official.
Regarding the participation of Mexico in Copa America and Brazil in Gold Cup, they are guests of a DIFFERENT confederation of the one organizing the. tournament. This is NOT the case of Argentina.
This matter has to come an impartial court to decide. Let CAS sort it out.
And if the ruling comes too late, at least make FIFA pay compensation to both NZ and Panama for the damage incurred by its "oversight"
So, is up to the NZ football community if they want to lose this opportunity and allow FIFA to keep a double standard.
Sorry to repeat, I did not quote properly in the first oneWe aren't really the types to try and win on a technicality, however if this is true we will moan about it in bars for weeks.
Ok, forget the WC , but appealing to CAS provides an oppotunity to obtain a monetary compensation for NZ for being shortchanged by FIFA. Money that could be used for the development of the game in NZ.
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Panama made an enquiry, not a protest, after the fact surfaced in social media. The answer by FIFA was just to acknowledge they received the enquiry about the elegibility of Gimenez and that they refuse to comment (neither "no" or "yes") using as excuse art. 14, par.3. (time limit of 1 hour to protest).
But NZ is an affected third party,as such not bounded by the time limit (this is applied only to the teams involved in the match in question) and as such it can still demand FIFA to launch disciplinary measures against Mexico regarding Gimenez participation in the game against Panama, as the outcome of a forfeit, as FIFA regulations mandate in case of inelegible player, is a different playoff rival.
I know FIFA would try to avoid it, But NZ can appeal to CAS, in order to clarify the matter of the nature of Argentina participation in South America U-20 tournament in Ecuador 2001. In regulations of similar tournaments declares in art.1 that CONMEBOL organizes the tournament in behalf of FIFA, and art. 2 say participants are the 10 federations of CONMEBOL. For me that means every match in the tournament is official.
Regarding the participation of Mexico in Copa America and Brazil in Gold Cup, they are guests of a DIFFERENT confederation of the one organizing the. tournament. This is NOT the case of Argentina.
This matter has to come an impartial court to decide. Let CAS sort it out.
And if the ruling comes too late, at least make FIFA pay compensation to both NZ and Panama for the damage incurred by its "oversight"
So, is up to the NZ football community if they want to lose this opportunity and allow FIFA to keep a double standard.
Sorry to repeat, I did not quote properly in the first oneWe aren't really the types to try and win on a technicality, however if this is true we will moan about it in bars for weeks.
Ok, forget the WC , but appealing to CAS provides an oppotunity to obtain a monetary compensation for NZ for being shortchanged by FIFA. Money that could be used for the development of the game in NZ.
This is a great call - NZF should be looking at this for a cash injection for sure.
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Excitement building now (not expectation however) see ESPN are setting up their makeshift studio up outside the train station this morning.
Proudly "fed up of" supporting the underdog, Major trophies in my lifetime:
Sunderland = 0
England = 0
Phoenix = 0
New Zealand = 0
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Excitement building now (not expectation however) see ESPN are setting up their makeshift studio up outside the train station this morning.
Wow, awesome. I assume this is the Mexican team organizing this? Any idea when they're filming?
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My flight from Auckland is on Jetstar at 5:10pm, hope to god there are no delays!
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Vicelich was worse!
True, but people on here seen to think that Durante is so great. I don't.
In defence of Ivan Vicelich he has been a very good M/defender in the All Whites for a long time. He did very well in 2010. It was asking a lot of a 37-year-old to play at that high altitude with such a poor team selection. Half a game maybe, but not the full boogie.
I agree that Durante isn't up to international level. He's too slow.
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I wonder if anyone in NZ Football Federation is interested in a plan B in case of defeat.
It involves to submit a protest to FIFA first thing after the game for allowing an inelegible player, Christian Gimenez, to play for Mexico in the last four games of Concacaf clasification tournament (Panama being one of the rivals).
Gimenez played in 2001 a Conmebol official U20 competition that awarded berths to the World Cup of such category in that year. FIFA statutes say that any player that played an official match, becomes inelegible for another association, unless it has others nationalities before such match, a requirement that Gimenez DID NOT comply with.
FIFA most likely would try to dismiss it. But, alas, in the same statutes it recognize the CAS as a last instance to settle disputes, when all other options in FIFA are closed. The point is to force FIFA to issue a decision, or have at least enough proof of delayed justice to be able to file an appeal to Court of Arbitration for Sport
The matter of the dispute is if FIFA gave an improper clearence to Gimenez. Something important, because fielding an ineligible player is punished with a forfeit 0-3. Such result would change the playoff rival, Panama in this case.
if there is an opportunity, ¿why not to take it? At the very least, some monetary compensation could be obtained if CAS rule that FIFA did not enforce its own statutes.
Unfortunately Panama have already protested (although they left it too late I think - outside the 24 hours window after a match for protesting)
The problem is that he played for an Argentina team appearing as "a guest" in the u-20 qualifiers since they were hosting the Finals.
But it seems a very messy area - were the Argentina team's matches "official" or not? How can matches in a qualifying tournament not be official when the results are official even if one team is only a "guest" and doesn't need to qualify?
Mexico plays at the Copa America and the matches count as friendlies for us (when it comes to the Fifa rankings), so it has been that way long ago.
Panama made an enquiry, not a protest, after the fact surfaced in social media. The answer by FIFA was just to acknowledge they received the enquiry about the elegibility of Gimenez and that they refuse to comment (neither "no" or "yes") using as excuse art. 14, par.3. (time limit of 1 hour to protest).
But NZ is an affected third party,as such not bounded by the time limit (this is applied only to the teams involved in the match in question) and as such it can still demand FIFA to launch disciplinary measures against Mexico regarding Gimenez participation in the game against Panama, as the outcome of a forfeit, as FIFA regulations mandate in case of inelegible player, is a different playoff rival.
I know FIFA would try to avoid it, But NZ can appeal to CAS, in order to clarify the matter of the nature of Argentina participation in South America U-20 tournament in Ecuador 2001. In regulations of similar tournaments declares in art.1 that CONMEBOL organizes the tournament in behalf of FIFA, and art. 2 say participants are the 10 federations of CONMEBOL. For me that means every match in the tournament is official.
Regarding the participation of Mexico in Copa America and Brazil in Gold Cup, they are guests of a DIFFERENT confederation of the one organizing the. tournament. This is NOT the case of Argentina.
This matter has to come an impartial court to decide. Let CAS sort it out.
And if the ruling comes too late, at least make FIFA pay compensation to both NZ and Panama for the damage incurred by its "oversight"
So, is up to the NZ football community if they want to lose this opportunity and allow FIFA to keep a double standard.
Sorry to repeat, I did not quote properly in the first one
Agree, think it would be petty. We've done very well out of selling the international TV rights to tonight's game. Lets leave it at that.
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Better not forget to kit up and play! ^^
Fuck this stupid game
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Stunning day for it. See you lot there. May have a few cheeky free bets to give away...
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Just placed my first ever bet at the TAB Steffen, and now i'm off to the train station.
Let me know if you want to give me my second for free. ;)
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The french have just done something not too dissimilar to what is required of us...
Obviously lots of differences, namely them having a better side than their opponent on paper... and only needing 3 rather than 4, but still...
I don't believe yet, but maybe just maybe if we got a couple of goals in the first 20 minutes... as unlikely as that is
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The french have just done something not too dissimilar to what is required of us...
Obviously lots of differences, namely them having a better side than their opponent on paper... and only needing 3 rather than 4, but still...
I don't believe yet, but maybe just maybe if we got a couple of goals in the first 20 minutes... as unlikely as that is
Great game that!
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According to fifa, France is the only team in history to come back from 2-0 in a playoff to qualify.
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Excitement building now (not expectation however) see ESPN are setting up their makeshift studio up outside the train station this morning.
Wow, awesome. I assume this is the Mexican team organizing this? Any idea when they're filming?
Looks like they are cracking into it already, 4 blokes in suits behind a makeshift desk looking dapper, and very hot under the welly sun..
Proudly "fed up of" supporting the underdog, Major trophies in my lifetime:
Sunderland = 0
England = 0
Phoenix = 0
New Zealand = 0
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My flight from Auckland is on Jetstar at 5:10pm, hope to god there are no delays!
This is called tempting fate.
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^ my goodness LFCNZ, that is insanely risky planning on your part
How you getting to the game from the airport? Could be trouble there too
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My flight from Auckland is on Jetstar at 5:10pm, hope to god there are no delays!
This is called tempting fate.
yep.you'd be at or on the way to the airport already then,right?
EDIT..what he said! ^
;-)
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My flight from Auckland is on Jetstar at 5:10pm, hope to god there are no delays!
This is called tempting fate.
Good Luck. You may need it.
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So pissed off I have a must-attend training tonight. :( Should be home for the last 20 minutes or so and I expect to see Marco already on the scoresheet.
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So pissed off I have a must-attend training tonight. :( Should be home for the last 20 minutes or so and I expect to see Marco already on the scoresheet.
I dont believe any NZ football team would train during this game, certainly not in Wellington???
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So pissed off I have a must-attend training tonight. :( Should be home for the last 20 minutes or so and I expect to see Marco already on the scoresheet.
I dont believe any NZ football team would train during this game, certainly not in Wellington???
There's no way anyone could make me go to that 'must attend' training.
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My flight from Auckland is on Jetstar at 5:10pm, hope to god there are no delays!
I think thats cutting it fine even if you are on time!
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Fire up !!!! Its match day!
Fantastic day to be a football fan. This morning watched France qualify with a brilliant 3-0 win over Ukraine. Paris will be party city tonight. Portugal qualify by beating Sweden 3-2. Ronaldo hat trick. South Africa beat Spain 1-0. The omens are there for us.
Now its time for our boys. Our young kids are going to tear Mexico a new one! Mexico prepare your ......!!!!!!!!!!
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So pissed off I have a must-attend training tonight. :( Should be home for the last 20 minutes or so and I expect to see Marco already on the scoresheet.
I dont believe any NZ football team would train during this game, certainly not in Wellington???
There's no way anyone could make me go to that 'must attend' training.
yeah
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Just had a knee reconstruction op so left it to last minute to "call it" but afraid its gonna have to be beers on the couch tonight....Grrrr
At least the kids still get to enjoy a "big game" with the wife taking them.
Enjoy it !!!
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Just had a knee reconstruction op so left it to last minute to "call it" but afraid its gonna have to be beers on the couch tonight....Grrrr
At least the kids still get to enjoy a "big game" with the wife taking them.
Enjoy it !!!
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I booked my flight before they changed the KO time to 7:00pm from 7:30pm - know there are a few others on the same flight goign to the game.
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I booked my flight before they changed the KO time to 7:00pm from 7:30pm - know there are a few others on the same flight goign to the game.
Your odds of seeing the game must be closing in on The AWs chances of qualifying...
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FIRE UP!! 4-0 by halftime, no goals in 2nd half, it's gonna be Riyadh '81 all over again.
Wish I was there. Tonight in Welly will be massive.
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So pissed off I have a must-attend training tonight. :( Should be home for the last 20 minutes or so and I expect to see Marco already on the scoresheet.
I dont believe any NZ football team would train during this game, certainly not in Wellington???
Bad luck for Doloras, but a must attend training may not mean football.
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FIRE UP!! 4-0 by halftime, no goals in 2nd half, it's gonna be Riyadh '81 all over again.
Wish I was there. Tonight in Welly will be massive.
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Bad luck for Doloras, but a must attend training may not mean football.
It means Gaelic football.
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Bad luck for Doloras, but a must attend training may not mean football.
It means Gaelic football.
Just Quit.
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