National League / OCL

ASB Women's League

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
1pm Petone Memorial on Saturday. Get along folk.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

so who is gonna win (not the golf)?

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
2-1 win for the mighty Capital. Ren with a brace + golden boot/mvp.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

unlucky WaiBop, great effort though from an unheralded side that wasn't even expected to make the semi's at the start of the year...
MrWaikato2011-03-13 14:11:03
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
2-1 win for the mighty Capital. Ren with a brace + golden boot/mvp.


I Leota
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ren for Nix?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Give her the scholarship
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Ren for Nix?


Well, Jenny Bindon plays for Hibiscus Coast in the NRFL, so why not.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So all the "talent" is in Auckland, and yet they didn't make the semi finals...?  Wonder what NZ Football are thinking about that now...?
 
And as an aside, what is the whole point of putting an age limit on the league?  From the games I saw, the overage players definitely stood out.  If NZ Football wanted to grow the game, surely they would let the best players play and look towards introducing either another league with youth players, or a "reserve" grade...?  Allows development of younger players whilst keeping the integrity of the nationa league.  Ah, yeah - the cost!  Why does women's football always get the raw deal.
 
Happy to be told another reason for the age limit - perhaps they were trying to get rid of certain players?  As far as I can tell, a bunch of players that should have been playing just got ripped off of a really good opportunity...
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madness wrote:
So all the "talent" is in Auckland, and yet they didn't make the semi finals...?  Wonder what NZ Football are thinking about that now...?
 
And as an aside, what is the whole point of putting an age limit on the league?  From the games I saw, the overage players definitely stood out.  If NZ Football wanted to grow the game, surely they would let the best players play and look towards introducing either another league with youth players, or a "reserve" grade...?  Allows development of younger players whilst keeping the integrity of the nationa league.  Ah, yeah - the cost!  Why does women's football always get the raw deal.
 
Happy to be told another reason for the age limit - perhaps they were trying to get rid of certain players?  As far as I can tell, a bunch of players that should have been playing just got ripped off of a really good opportunity...
 
Where's the men's reserve league?
 
How many women play the game versus men?  How much is spent per player on international programmes for female and male players respectively?
 
How do they get a raw deal?
 
Sorry, that just got my back up.
 
I have no comment on the age limit, and I know some players who are pissed off not to be able to play National League.
 

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I do not see an age limit on the men's league, therefore no need for a reserve league.
 
I appreciate the fact that my comments got your back up, but please note I was specifically referring to the age limit on the women's national league.  I can't see NZ football EVER enforcing an age limit on the men's league - it just wouldn't happen!
 
Yes, more men play football than women - BUT THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS AT A NATIONAL LEAGUE LEVEL!
 
I personally have no idea how much is spent on international programmes for female and male players respectively.  I wasn't talking about international programmes, I was talking about national league.
 
Really, all of this starts at a club level.  I've lost track of how many clubs I've been involved with, where the men getting a better deal than the women.  (e.g. newer uniforms/tracksuits/balls/training equipment, club subsidises or pays whole subs, food/drink items provided at half time and/or post game, etc... regardless of the performance of the teams).  At one club I was even told that the men's first team was and always would be more important than the women's first team.  That's where the raw deal starts.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

why are you comparing it to the men? They are different. We need to do what is best to achieve growth in the wimmins game. I'd say if a federation took the NYL seriously enough then they would have achieved more than what the league a couple of years ago did. I think Capital did a good job and will reap the benefits. Can't speak for the other Feds but in the games I saw I definitely didn't see three over-age players shining out.

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madness wrote:
I do not see an age limit on the men's league, therefore no need for a reserve league.
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I appreciate the fact that my comments got your back up, but please note I was specifically referring to the age limit on the women's national league.� I can't see NZ football EVER enforcing an age limit on the men's league - it just wouldn't happen!

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Yes, more men play football than women - BUT THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS AT A NATIONAL LEAGUE LEVEL!

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I personally have no idea how much is spent on international programmes for female and male players respectively.� I wasn't talking about international programmes, I was talking about national league.

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Really, all of this starts at a club level.� I've lost track of how many clubs I've been involved with, where the men getting a better deal than the women.� (e.g. newer uniforms/tracksuits/balls/training equipment, club subsidises or pays whole subs, food/drink items provided at half time and/or post game, etc... regardless of the performance of the teams).� At one club I was even told that the men's first team was and always would be more important than the women's first team.� That's where the raw deal starts.
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madness wrote:
I do not see an age limit on the men's league, therefore no need for a reserve league.
 
I appreciate the fact that my comments got your back up, but please note I was specifically referring to the age limit on the women's national league.  I can't see NZ football EVER enforcing an age limit on the men's league - it just wouldn't happen!
 
Yes, more men play football than women - BUT THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS AT A NATIONAL LEAGUE LEVEL!
 
I personally have no idea how much is spent on international programmes for female and male players respectively.  I wasn't talking about international programmes, I was talking about national league.
 
Really, all of this starts at a club level.  I've lost track of how many clubs I've been involved with, where the men getting a better deal than the women.  (e.g. newer uniforms/tracksuits/balls/training equipment, club subsidises or pays whole subs, food/drink items provided at half time and/or post game, etc... regardless of the performance of the teams).  At one club I was even told that the men's first team was and always would be more important than the women's first team.  That's where the raw deal starts.
 
Massive yarn.  You said "oh yes, the cost.  Why does blah blah raw deal blah blah".
 
Now you're changing things up again to talk about some club you've heard of.
 
I don't know what the thinking is behind the age limitation and I agree it would be unlikely to happen in the men's game but as Feverish quite rightly points out the needs of the two are different.
 
What I can say is that the CF wimmin's team played great football to watch, were a credit to Bevin and Pete who coached them, and while the over age players were quality, some of the stars were youngsters. 
 
In any case that team has completely changed my perspective on wimmin's football which was previously focussed on matters that had nothing to do with the game. 
 
I feel sorry for the girls who missed out on playing in the league this year, but I don't think it's an example of girls getting a raw deal.  It's just life.

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You win.  I agree to disagree as it seems either I haven't made myself clear in what I meant, or my point is not a valid one to you.
 
I agree, CF played some great football and congrats to them for winning the league.
 
"Now you're changing things up again to talk about some club you've heard of" - it was actually a club I played for, not one I had heard of...  How demoralising is that?!
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madness wrote:
You win.  I agree to disagree as it seems either I haven't made myself clear in what I meant, or my point is not a valid one to you.
 
I agree, CF played some great football and congrats to them for winning the league.
 
"Now you're changing things up again to talk about some club you've heard of" - it was actually a club I played for, not one I had heard of...  How demoralising is that?!


Congrats to Capital for the win but think even you would have to admit WaiBop have played the best football in the league, and even of the final.

Just goes to prove again that Football is a funny old game and the side with the most possession etc do not always win the game...

Congrats to both teams for outplaying and defeating the so called Auckland 'superstars'...
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MrWaikato wrote:

Congrats to Capital for the win but think even you would have to admit WaiBop have played the best football in the league, and even of the final.

Just goes to prove again that Football is a funny old game and the side with the most possession etc do not always win the game...

Congrats to both teams for outplaying and defeating the so called Auckland 'superstars'...
To be honest, when we rocked up to watch the final, I thought CF were in for a drubbing given WaiBop's semi-final score.
 
And yes, WaiBop played well throughout.  I'm still not sure how 2 corners went out for goal kicks though...?!
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MrWaikato wrote:
madness wrote:
You win.  I agree to disagree as it seems either I haven't made myself clear in what I meant, or my point is not a valid one to you.
 
I agree, CF played some great football and congrats to them for winning the league.
 
"Now you're changing things up again to talk about some club you've heard of" - it was actually a club I played for, not one I had heard of...  How demoralising is that?!


Congrats to Capital for the win but think even you would have to admit WaiBop have played the best football in the league, and even of the final.

Just goes to prove again that Football is a funny old game and the side with the most possession etc do not always win the game...

Congrats to both teams for outplaying and defeating the so called Auckland 'superstars'...
How do you know this?

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MrWaikato wrote:
madness wrote:
You win.  I agree to disagree as it seems either I haven't made myself clear in what I meant, or my point is not a valid one to you.
 
I agree, CF played some great football and congrats to them for winning the league.
 
"Now you're changing things up again to talk about some club you've heard of" - it was actually a club I played for, not one I had heard of...  How demoralising is that?!


Congrats to Capital for the win but think even you would have to admit WaiBop have played the best football in the league, and even of the final.
 
Hard to say.  I didn't see WaiBop play in the league.
 
If you've seen both teams play a few games I guess you're better placed to call it?
 
Football is certainly a funny old game though, two people can watch the same game and see different things.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Feverish wrote:
MrWaikato wrote:
madness wrote:
You win.� I agree to disagree as it seems either I haven't made myself clear in what I meant, or my point is not a valid one to you.
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I agree, CF played some great football and congrats to them for winning the league.

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"Now you're changing things up again to talk about some club you've heard of" - it was actually a club I played for, not one I had heard of...� How demoralising is that?!
Congrats to Capital for the win but think even you would have to admit WaiBop have played the best football in the league, and even of the final.Just goes to prove again that Football is a funny old game and the side with the most possession etc do not always win the game...Congrats to both teams for outplaying and defeating the so called Auckland 'superstars'...

How do you know this?
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
"WaikBOP played the best football of the league" ..... and yet they lost to Northern twice in two games, 3-5 and 0-2! They got the easy semi on goal difference, and lost to Capital as Northern had, with both teams enjoying a possession advantage over Capital. Yes, it is a funny game!
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Seatts wrote:
"WaikBOP played the best football of the league" ..... and yet they lost to Northern twice in two games, 3-5 and 0-2! They got the easy semi on goal difference, and lost to Capital as Northern had, with both teams enjoying a possession advantage over Capital. Yes, it is a funny game!
Northern were bossed by Capital (as were Waikato)

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cap beat South 8-3 today. Were down 3-0 early doors and playing pants. South were pants in the second half.
Mainland beat Central 3-0

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Girls won 2-0. Missed both goals as did first half of yoof at Farrington.

Can someone explain why these two teams play at exactly the same time every week but at different venues? Seems stupid.   

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Hard News wrote:
Girls won 2-0. Missed both goals as did first half of yoof at Farrington.
Can someone explain why these two teams play at exactly the same time every week but at different venues? Seems stupid.   


On this occasion, Mainland Pride and Canterbury United men's youth shared a flight from Chch to Wellington.

It's possible that last week Football South and Otago United may have had a similar arrangement.


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Hard News wrote:
Girls won 2-0. Missed both goals as did first half of yoof at Farrington.

Can someone explain why these two teams play at exactly the same time every week but at different venues? Seems stupid.   
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Perhaps News meant why not play both games at the same venue, but at say 11 and 1? Wouldn't be a bad day of football?

Mainland were definitely the strongest competition Capital have faced. They shut down Renee superbly, but gave her one chance and she scored. The other goal was a howler by the Mainland keeper, and she'll be kicking herself, because she was solid under the ball all day.
However, Mainland just didn't look like scoring
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mainland were decent. Wimmins footy down there has come on in the last couple of years - they have some good young players coming through. Good goal from Ren, and yeah uncharacteristic of their keeper for the second  -as she is decent. Capitals monopoly on possession didn't really translate to too many chances. 

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mainland defeated Football South 5 - 1 today in Chrisychurch and was reported over the PA that Central drew with Capital 1 - 1.
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yeah not a good result for Cap

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
From NZ Football
 

Saturday
At Wembley Park, Wanganui
Central Football 1 (Michaela BLYDE 38�)
Capital Football 1
(Renee BACON 58�)
Halftime: 1-0

At ASB Football Park, Christchurch
Mainland Football 4 (Hannah WONG 8�, 20,� 42�; Arna ROBERTS 61�, Dayna NAPA 79�)
Football South 1
(Mary FRASER 21�)
Halftime: 3-1

Sunday
Northern Conference Development v Auckland Football
Parrs Park, Auckland
1pm

Waikato BOP Football v Northern Football
Links Ave, Mt Maunganui
2pm

ASB WOMEN�S YOUTH LEAGUE � STANDINGS

Northern Conference

P

W

D

L

For

Ag

GD

Pts

Northern Football

4

4

0

0

20

3

17

12

Waikato-BOP Football

4

2

1

1

21

8

13

7

Auckland Football

4

1

1

2

11

12

-1

4

Northern Conf. Dev

4

0

0

4

1

30

-29

0

 

Southern Conference

P

W

D

L

For

Ag

GD

Pts

Mainland Football

5

4

0

1

13

5

8

12

Capital Football

5

3

1

1

16

5

11

10

Central Football

5

2

1

2

9

13

-4

7

Football South

5

0

0

5

10

25

-15

0

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Pretty comfortable victory for the Mainland girls in wet,cold conditions.Despite battling hard Football South were quite poor I thought;their players were considerably inferior to Mainland(which is borne out by the table I suppose).They did score a very good goal though:almost like a training ground drill executed to perfection.Most of the Mainland girls had their moments,and it seems the coaches have selected far better than last year,when some players were elevated beyond their ability.Things are looking good for the team:congrats...
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Semi- Finals
Mainland 1 Waikato BOP 6 HT 0 - 3
Northern 1 Capital 0 HT 1 - 0
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AllWhites82 wrote:
Semi- Finals
Mainland 1 Waikato BOP 6 HT 0 - 3

Northern 1 Capital 0 HT 1 - 0


This is a little weird innit? 1st in South gets smashed by second in North. Then 2nd in South only just gets beat by 1st in North.

Go figure.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Not that weird, but the Mainland keeper and a couple of the defenders had shockers which lead to at least four of the goals - Waikato were always in control apart from a period just after the break but Mainland could only pull a goal back.

Capital defeated Mainland in Wellington and were not a full strenght when they played in Christchurch. Clearly the Northern Conference is stronger than the Southern Conference which is born out by the teams in the Final. 
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Yeah Waikato were well worth their victory and looked a class above in certain positions.The Mainland girls fought hard,which should be applauded,but it was huff and puff really.I thought the Mainland coaches lost the plot big time in the second half,which really played into Waikato's hands:going three at the back was really risky;it allowed Waikato too much time and space.And to compound this,they made a series of positional changes that made absolutely no sense:centre halves moving into midfield,a right back going up front(!!??),a midfielder going into the defence and the team's classiest striker,Aimee Phillips spending the second half at right midfield...utterly bizarre...
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Yeah Waikato were well worth their victory and looked a class above in certain positions.The Mainland girls fought hard,which should be applauded,but it was huff and puff really.I thought the Mainland coaches lost the plot big time in the second half,which really played into Waikato's hands:going three at the back was really risky;it allowed Waikato too much time and space.And to compound this,they made a series of positional changes that made absolutely no sense:centre halves moving into midfield,a right back going up front(!!??),a midfielder going into the defence and the team's classiest striker,Aimee Phillips spending the second half at right midfield...utterly bizarre...
 
Agree and then subbing of Dayna Napa who looked the most likely to open up the Waikato defence.
 
All the best to the Waikato BOP side I hope they take out the Final.
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over 13 years ago


Highlights from CF 1-1 draw with mainland.  Check out the awkward interviews at the end.

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