I was the person that said use the word muppet. I am surprised that someone would find the word muppet as racist. Offensive (if you take it that way) yes, but racist? I would be interested in some context on that.
Think it was a Somalian player that took offence at it
Just goes to show how most racist allegations are unfounded and how easy it is to play the race card and just how precious some people can be
Actually I think I recall that now that you mention it was a Somalian involved. Rings a bell.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Think it was a Somalian player that took offence at it
Just goes to show how most racist allegations are unfounded and how easy it is to play the race card and just how precious some people can be
Think it was a Somalian player that took offence at it
Just goes to show how most racist allegations are unfounded and how easy it is to play the race card and just how precious some people can be
It's a difficult subject because some words have connotations when applied to one individual that they don't have for another. So if you shout "monkey" at a European player it's okay but not at a darker skinned player. I understand why but isn't it a bit silly in this day and age when the most powerful man in the world is an African-American. It's like not being able to say the slightest thing that could be perceived as an insult by a devout Islamist or orthodox Jew or raving Catholic. If John Terry calls another player a "c**t" then that's just football, but if he calls him a "black c**t" then all hell breaks loose.
Football isn't tiddlewinks and while I'm all for good manners, things get said in the heat of a game and we should just get over it.I've been known to hurl the odd (relatively mild) insult during moments of frustration watching City, but fortunately being a smug and high and mighty supporter of the best football club in the land those are few and far between (cue sound of JV furiously tapping on his computer keyboard). Having said that I get fed up with the abusive sods on the sidelines who never have anything good to say. You know who you are so stop it you *#@"<>&#!
What a silly thing to say 2nd Best.
It's a difficult subject because some words have connotations when applied to one individual that they don't have for another. So if you shout "monkey" at a European player it's okay but not at a darker skinned player. I understand why but isn't it a bit silly in this day and age when the most powerful man in the world is an African-American. It's like not being able to say the slightest thing that could be perceived as an insult by a devout Islamist or orthodox Jew or raving Catholic. If John Terry calls another player a "c**t" then that's just football, but if he calls him a "black c**t" then all hell breaks loose.
Football isn't tiddlewinks and while I'm all for good manners, things get said in the heat of a game and we should just get over it.I've been known to hurl the odd (relatively mild) insult during moments of frustration watching City, but fortunately being a smug and high and mighty supporter of the best football club in the land those are few and far between (cue sound of JV furiously tapping on his computer keyboard). Having said that I get fed up with the abusive sods on the sidelines who never have anything good to say. You know who you are so stop it you *#@"<>&#!
I appreciate what your saying and agree, there are boundaries that shouldn't be crossed. I love Kiwitea Street because of its racial and cultural diversity. As a European I don't always appreciate how hurtful certain stereotype comments can be for some people. I've heard some shocking racial abuse hurled at players in England and that always makes me cringe. I can't say I've ever heard it at ACFC, but your right, if it happened then the culprit should be kicked out of the ground. I also don't like the individuals who constantly use obscenities when commenting on the action onfield, particularly as I sometimes bring my young nephew to the game and there's usually lots of kids in the stand.
Think it was a Somalian player that took offence at it
Just goes to show how most racist allegations are unfounded and how easy it is to play the race card and just how precious some people can be
Think it was a Somalian player that took offence at it
Just goes to show how most racist allegations are unfounded and how easy it is to play the race card and just how precious some people can be
I can say in the times I visited Kiwitea St, I haven't heard anything racist from anyone nor foul language from the 248 crew (as they are the loudest). I think I recall someone said something about 4-5 years ago but he got condemned quickly (in terms of language). I also haven't gone there looking to hear anything or or not saying it does not happen
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I can say in the times I visited Kiwitea St, I haven't heard anything racist from anyone nor foul language from the 248 crew (as they are the loudest). I think I recall someone said something about 4-5 years ago but he got condemned quickly (in terms of language). I also haven't gone there looking to hear anything or or not saying it does not happen
I have to admit I've heard a few nasty things said about players but usually the culprit has been told to shut up. There was also the case of the Serbian coach of the Kuwait team during a friendly who was given a choice history lesson by some Croatians sitting above but that's a whole other ball game. Mostly Kiwitea Street is host to good natured banter and humour which is part of the fun of football. The one who really is annoying is the sour faced Brit who sometime sits in the stand and spends most of the game loudly complaining, usually laced with expletives, but you get them at every game (not necessarily Brits). The mixed bunch 248 crew are a laugh and good company.
When in London I enjoy watching Crystal Palace - now there you get some choice comments. And they're mild compared to the knucklescrappers at Millwall. But generally fan behaviour in Britain has improved enormously on what it once was. The naked tribalism and racism on the terraces in the 70s and even 80s was hair raising. Mind you the English humour is also hilarious. I've been doubled over in laughter by some pithy terrace observations.
the key element of any bigoted abuse is the condescending use of a person's ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc. i.e. the implication that being dark skinned is something that the recipient of the abuse should be ashamed of
take the abusive term 'black cunt' for example
the term 'black' is deliberately added to the word 'cunt' for effect; significantly escalating the effect of the abuse
contrast this with calling someone a 'good looking cunt'
I think really, the best stuff is the stuff that's funny cause I find myself going 'shit I wish I had thought of that'
I read on here a story at Eden Park of the people in the next bay over trying to start a Mexican Wave and when it reached the FZ, they were given a 'we're here to watch the football' chant. I find that incredibly funny and humorous. So I guess fundamentally, why are people not looking to make it funny rather abusive?
I watched a TW game at Kiwitea when Dan Keat was playing and I'll never forget the funny stick that A: the referee for looking like Freddie Mercury an B: Raf de Gregorio for constantly shooting from long and 'give it to the ginger kid, he's allowed to play too' calls. None of that was abusive but was incredibly funny.
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Good luck to ACFC today get that point and then onto the semi's
I think really, the best stuff is the stuff that's funny cause I find myself going 'shit I wish I had thought of that'
I read on here a story at Eden Park of the people in the next bay over trying to start a Mexican Wave and when it reached the FZ, they were given a 'we're here to watch the football' chant. I find that incredibly funny and humorous. So I guess fundamentally, why are people not looking to make it funny rather abusive?
I watched a TW game at Kiwitea when Dan Keat was playing and I'll never forget the funny stick that A: the referee for looking like Freddie Mercury an B: Raf de Gregorio for constantly shooting from long and 'give it to the ginger kid, he's allowed to play too' calls. None of that was abusive but was incredibly funny.
Whenever Beckham played away :
"Posh Spice is a slapper ... She wears a wonderbra... When she's not fucking Beckham ... She's fucking Ginola..."
Quite a catchy number, especially when sung in tune by a 15,000 voice male choir.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Whenever Beckham played away :
"Posh Spice is a slapper ... She wears a wonderbra... When she's not fucking Beckham ... She's fucking Ginola..."
Quite a catchy number, especially when sung in tune by a 15,000 voice male choir.
PS For those not clued-up - David Ginola was Spurs pretty-boy French winger circa early 90's, like Beckham a male model. Dropped from the French national team after his giveaway ball enabled Bulgaria to eliminate France from the '94 World Cup play-offs (I think).
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
[quote=Jerzy Merino]
Whenever Beckham played away :
"Posh Spice is a slapper ... She wears a wonderbra... When she's not fucking Beckham ... She's fucking Ginola..."
Quite a catchy number, especially when sung in tune by a 15,000 voice male choir.
PS For those not clued-up - David Ginola was Spurs pretty-boy French winger circa early 90's, like Beckham a male model. Dropped from the French national team after his giveaway ball enabled Bulgaria to eliminate France from the '94 World Cup play-offs (I think).
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Apparently a favourite ditty at Main Road.
I still think the best was Bloc 5's song for South Melbourne star Con Boosianis (excuse the spelling - he who was arrested for driving the getaway car in a restaurant robbery) during the second season of the Kingz and sung to the Beatles tune 'Baby You Can Drive My Car' - "Bootsie you can drive the car, yes you're gonna be a star, Bootsie you can drive the car - and we'll rob a restaurant, toot toot, toot toot, yeah!" Even the SM players were laughing.
[quote=Jerzy Merino]
Whenever Beckham played away :
"Posh Spice is a slapper ... She wears a wonderbra... When she's not fucking Beckham ... She's fucking Ginola..."
Quite a catchy number, especially when sung in tune by a 15,000 voice male choir.
PS For those not clued-up - David Ginola was Spurs pretty-boy French winger circa early 90's, like Beckham a male model. Dropped from the French national team after his giveaway ball enabled Bulgaria to eliminate France from the '94 World Cup play-offs (I think).
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Apparently a favourite ditty at Main Road.
I still think the best was Bloc 5's song for South Melbourne star Con Boosianis (excuse the spelling - he who was arrested for driving the getaway car in a restaurant robbery) during the second season of the Kingz and sung to the Beatles tune 'Baby You Can Drive My Car' - "Bootsie you can drive the car, yes you're gonna be a star, Bootsie you can drive the car - and we'll rob a restaurant, toot toot, toot toot, yeah!" Even the SM players were laughing.
Wasn't it fantastic! Boutsianos gave us the fingers, remember?
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
[quote=Jerzy Merino]
Whenever Beckham played away :
"Posh Spice is a slapper ... She wears a wonderbra... When she's not fucking Beckham ... She's fucking Ginola..."
Quite a catchy number, especially when sung in tune by a 15,000 voice male choir.
PS For those not clued-up - David Ginola was Spurs pretty-boy French winger circa early 90's, like Beckham a male model. Dropped from the French national team after his giveaway ball enabled Bulgaria to eliminate France from the '94 World Cup play-offs (I think).
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Apparently a favourite ditty at Main Road.
I still think the best was Bloc 5's song for South Melbourne star Con Boosianis (excuse the spelling - he who was arrested for driving the getaway car in a restaurant robbery) during the second season of the Kingz and sung to the Beatles tune 'Baby You Can Drive My Car' - "Bootsie you can drive the car, yes you're gonna be a star, Bootsie you can drive the car - and we'll rob a restaurant, toot toot, toot toot, yeah!" Even the SM players were laughing.
Wasn't it fantastic! Boutsianos gave us the fingers, remember?
Then he bloody scored that free kick against us and ran over to give us a full broadside. Oh great days!
Still made for great entertainment tho. You were there too HN? In the Bloc. Mt Smart was rocking. Was that the 12,000 plus game, before the South Melbourne coach/prat came to Auckland and succeeded in bankrupting the Kingz?
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I was more referring to him running from the Peterson train-wreck and then playing against us for South Melbourne.
I was more referring to him running from the Peterson train-wreck and then playing against us for South Melbourne.
Ah. Got you. Yes, Peterson, that was his name. I wonder where he is now. Just imagine if HE's one of the Aussie applicants for the Nix!!!!!
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Mike Petersen.
Clasic example of the clueless making decisions. He'd done a runner on a number of clubs previously before he did a runner on us and if they had done some research he wouldn't have been appointed. Then replacing him with Fallon was just fucking stupid.
I thought he (Petersen) was still doing a coaching gig somewhere as an assistant but not sure where.
Mike Petersen.
Clasic example of the clueless making decisions. He'd done a runner on a number of clubs previously before he did a runner on us and if they had done some research he wouldn't have been appointed. Then replacing him with Fallon was just fucking stupid.
I thought he (Petersen) was still doing a coaching gig somewhere as an assistant but not sure where.
This was mainly down to a rush of blood to Chris Turner's head when he offered Petersen the job at the Kingz after they beat us in the final game of the second season. Turner should have stayed with the Rufer brothers, who certainly had better results than any of the subsequent coaches. The Petersen fiasco virtually bankrupted the Kingz. Then to appoint Fallon - crikey! The whole thing was a tragedy and a warning to the Phoenix. Don't throw a lot of money at a dodgy coach hoping to buy in success.
Is this right?
nope. someone from OFC got a bit retweet trigger happy
First leg:
Amicale vs. Waitakere United
Saturday 4 May, 3pm local kick-off
Port Vila Stadium
Port Vila, Vanuatu
Auckland City vs. Ba
Sunday 5 May, 3pm local kick-off
Kiwitea Street
Auckland, New Zealand
Second leg:
Ba vs. Auckland City
Saturday 11 May, 2pm local kick-off
Govind Park
Ba, Fiji
Waitakere United vs. Amicale
Sunday 12 May, 2pm local kick-off
Fred Taylor Park
Auckland, New Zealand
nope. someone from OFC got a bit retweet trigger happy
Waitakere's game has kicked off, stream here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RkPcLEx3N8
Seems the stream is delayed about 10 mins. Kinda disappointed by that.
Nice review by OFC site: “The advantage may have been even greater had Krishna not failed to open the scoring – and, as it transpired, missed out on subsequently notching a hat-trick – from the penalty spot in the 24th minute”, “Tahitian referee… pointed to the spot… but his (Krishna) powerful effort struck the underside of the cross bar and bounced in front of goal”, “Krishna made amends just under ten minutes later”.
Do they have bad eyesight? The penalty kick was taken by Chris Palmer. Are they very much alike or does Palmer bear the same number as Krishna?
So they can stream a match live from Port Vila on to Youtube, but can't do them same from Kiwitea?
Well done OFC. Well done.
Three for me, and two for them.
COYN