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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What's the obsession with Cam Parkin, Dunedin Tech's best this season have undoubtably been Chisholm, Coburn and Burgess. If Otago can secure these 3 players for next year they will provide a great spine. Coburn has been an absolute powerhouse in the midfield and Burgess never seems to miss any chances. He almost singlehandedly won the semi for Tech, 3 chances 3 goals and almost scored another with an unbeleivable bicycle kick that was plucked out the top corner by the Rovers keeper. He looks like he has lost a lot of weight since the last NZFC and is much quicker and fitter. I think he has nearly 30 goals for the season from like 14 or 15 games.
Ross Mckenzie looks useful as well athough not an out an out goalscorer more of a creative influence but Otago should snap him up quickly.
 
There is also a rumour around that Ivan Vicelich is returning to Auckland City for the new year???? Has anybody else heard this
 
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Cliff, have to agree with your comments.
I think F/fever is doing some promoting.
In the 1st half Burgess out sprinted a defender (was very surprised with his speed as always thought he lacked). He uses his body very well, something Ross McK could learn from. If Ross could protect the ball it would really add to his game.
Fridge struggles with his bench, ie John Lang on when midfield are getting tired.
 
 
 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No promoting....
Sure these player are good possibly even great footballers, but if u knew anything these 3 players made up Otago's spine last year and what happen there, maybe some change is needed. 3 people dont make a team
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And as for the comment on Ross Mckensie, how can u comment after only watching one game, in the quater final he spearheaded Tech to the win, if u actully knew anything (Dino), about the SPL u would know that Mckensie has probally been the player of the season, you dont have to be top scorer to be class.....
Other teams both fear and respect his play and he has ripped numerous teams to shreads over the season, maybe you should know more before critiqueing one of the best players the SPL has seen in a wile....
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You are right 3 players don't make up a team, I think Otago United got it wrong with these guys last year. Chisolm played much of the season in midfiled, Coburn on the left and Burgess was asked to play as lone striker or as attacking midfielder in many games. When these guys were put in there correct positions towards the end we started to see some results.

If Otago played with the same sort of passion that we have seen from these Tech Boys in the last few weeks of Chatham Cup then they would have finished much higher. The addition to Otago of the likes of Jasper, Scoullar (when fit) Parkin and McKenzie would strengthen Otago big time.
 
Not sure if any of those last few names are available for Otago or not. I think Scoullar might be but I think he is based in Central so if he's not training might be a laibility????
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Footy fever, I don't think Dino was critizising Mckenzie just stating that he could use his body better. Your right you don't have to score goals to be class but it sure is very important as a striker. I haven't seen all of Tech's games this year but I did see them play Mosgiel where I think Mckenzie was playing on the left, played quite well out there as well but I think better suited in the middle.
The old left footer who always gets shunted to the left side of the park syndrome from the coach that day I presume.
Don't know about player of the season though, you can't have one striker on 30 odd goals and another on 12 or so and call him player of the season. Althoug i am just judging on goals and as you say it's not all about that.
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cliffbarnes wrote:

You are right 3 players don't make up a team, I think Otago United got it wrong with these guys last year. Chisolm played much of the season in midfiled, Coburn on the left and Burgess was asked to play as lone striker or as attacking midfielder in many games. When these guys were put in there correct positions towards the end we started to see some results.

 
I was at all home games last year and Chsholm played all the home games at CB Coburn was always in central midfield xcpt for about twice and we always had at least two up front unless for the last 20 when we were defending alead (which wasn't a heel of lot of the time) 
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footyfever wrote:
And as for the comment on Ross Mckensie, how can u comment after only watching one game, in the quater final he spearheaded Tech to the win, if u actully knew anything (Dino), about the SPL u would know that Mckensie has probally been the player of the season, you dont have to be top scorer to be class.....
Other teams both fear and respect his play and he has ripped numerous teams to shreads over the season, maybe you should know more before critiqueing one of the best players the SPL has seen in a wile....
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You have taken the comments out of context.
First of all I have watched and played a hell of a lot of SPL, so don't come with that sh*t.
Ripping apart Braes, Spirt and the 2nd tier teams is a lot different to playing, Miramar, Glenfield, Cavvie and Roslyn.
 
In regard to the comments concerning Ross McK, don't get so precious. He is a sharp unit who has the physical atributes that Aaron lacks (re my comment about speed), what Aaron does well is the top two inches, he uses his body extremely well and creates space from first touch and positioning. He has the uncanny knack of delaying the shot or pass to the last moment which is very effective, doesn't snatch or rush at an opportunity. Though Ross is an excellent player he could learn some of these from Aaron and may in the end be a better player for it.
 
No negative comments concerning Ross were intended.
 
Dino102008-08-20 17:04:45
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Interesting to hear Ross Mckenzies name pop up.  Having seen Ross play during his prime (2002 Melville Season) I would have to say that he is too good for the SPL (Aside from Tech everyone in the league is crap!).  I would love to see him re-join Auckland City where for a brief time he was a fans favourite. 
I also believe Ross` best position is a Left back roll, as a striker I think he maybe lacks the ability of a Steven Holloway to score regularly , where as at left back he reminds meof a young Dean Gordon.
Dino10 is a mug - Ross Mac Rules
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Grenade, Tech are losing the league to Roslyn.  Caversham are the dominant club in Dunedin over the last 5 years.  Care to comment?

Normo's coming home

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Tech are in the final of the chattum cup.  The only winter competition anyone cares about anymore!
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i agree with grenade with the fact the SPL is a poorer league and of Ross Mck quality. other league around the country are stronger, but a huge reason to cavy success over the past yrs is that many SPL teams including tech up to and including this season have alot of uni students playing for them. once holidays come around players leave and can miss up to 4-5-6 games a season, the decline is the varsity side proves this. cavy dont have as many students thus keep a core of there players for every game.
Tech i believe are the best side as cavy have made chatam cup semis past few yrs but this has been with a draw favouring south island teams ensuring that the last chch and otago team meet in the quarters. whenever cavy have come up against a more quailty north island oppostition thay have lost. tech have had an open draw since quarters and knocked off more favourable opposition north island such as the 'unbeaten' mirama and glenfield. i just hpe they can do it again in the final
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Ross wasn't an Auckland City favourite. He was a Roger favourite and it was proven when Roger left, Ross followed. He wasn't really a crowd favourite as that role went to Smudger Smith (not that I care either way, just stating a fact) so hard to find that statement valid.
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Smudger smith wasnt fit to clean R-macs boots
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Smudger Smith should not have to, as he is and always will be in a different class than Ross M. What has Ross won or acheived in the game. as soon as Roger got the boot at ACFC he left. what does that tell you about the guy... Smithy has won everything there is to win in the game so yeah how about ross cleaning Smithy boots... Bluey2008-08-22 10:38:30
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I`m just saying that if Ross Mac had been giving the oppourtunity that Smith had he would have proven what a good player he is.  In his short spell at ACFC Ross had a big impact.  Darren Fletcher has also won everything there is to win in the game but it doesn`t make him a quality player.
Anyway, moving off this topic can anyone tell me if Michale Mayne is back in NZ and has he signed for anyone in the summer league?
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I have to laugh at the "if Ross Mac had been giving the oppourtunity that Smith had he would have proven what a good player he is" statement for if Ross was every bit the player you claim him to be, then wouldn't he have been starting at Auckland City after Roger left? Opportunities are usually earned through time on the training pitch, not given away, and while I'm not a Smith fan, he was a hell of a work horse. If Ross was that good, he would have earned his start? If he was that good, wouldnt Rex have tried to sign him or Colin or Roger ask him back? Who did this outstanding player play in the NZFC for last year?

And before you question my knowledge on Ross, I've known Ross and his dad for many years when he was a lad in Inglewood so I've got a fair idea of what I'm talking about....

Oh yeah, isn't Smith an ex Tech lad???
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Ross Was playing in singapore last NZFC season!! So your knowledge on Ross Mac isnt that good.  I heard ross got a call from Chris Millicch the other day!
 
How has Mayne been playing at wanderers? Why wasnt he in the Olympics squad???
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Grenade wrote:
Ross Was playing in singapore last NZFC season!! So your knowledge on Ross Mac isnt that good.  I heard ross got a call from Chris Millicch the other day!
 
How has Mayne been playing at wanderers? Why wasnt he in the Olympics squad???


It was a rhetorical question....

If your logic is based around that 'he got a call' well hell jesus you could pick another 500 players that perhaps have had calls this winter asking availability...
So he got a call. I'd put a fiver that he has had a call from Fallon too. What does it all mean? I'm sure Frankie Mac gets approached to play EPL all the time but until pen goes to paper then it means nothing. Until then....

Something to note:
Ross is almost with Waitakere if he signs a contract.
The Oly-Whites almost qualifed for the next round if they had beaten Belgium.

Note how they sound good but don't mean sh*t until it happens?

Regardless of how good the guy is lets just leave this discussion until the NZFC has started, he is getting playing time and being effective for whatever club he signs for. Then the truth will evolve. Until then, this is a pointless argument.....
Agent 472008-08-23 05:39:07
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Michael Mayne has been playing for Wanderers all season, playing at a good level too. Start of the season was significantly overweight however has shed most of that and seems to be playing well now in an average side that may well be relegated
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Grenade wrote:
Interesting to hear Ross Mckenzies name pop up.  Having seen Ross play during his prime (2002 Melville Season) I would have to say that he is too good for the SPL (Aside from Tech everyone in the league is crap!).  I would love to see him re-join Auckland City where for a brief time he was a fans favourite. 
I also believe Ross` best position is a Left back roll, as a striker I think he maybe lacks the ability of a Steven Holloway to score regularly , where as at left back he reminds meof a young Dean Gordon.
Dino10 is a mug - Ross Mac Rules
 
a fan favourite ....??!   I cant even remember the muppet....must have dazzled me so much that I blacked out...or it could be the drink....
 
PS   grenade stop pulling yer own pin....smudger was and is missed...unlike aaah  whatshisname...
and its   Chatham   dweeb....
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Heres a sensible post from me...
 
Jonathan Smith is god
I've already given my thoughts but incase you missed them my honest opinion Smith in the first two seasons of NZFC stepped up to a level that I have not seen in anyone else in a long time
Work rate, movement, dominated in the air and he got the goals in too and brilliant goals his header against Otago at Kiwitea in the second season probably one of my favourites from a long list.  
Players moving close were Sigmund best player last season brilliant under high balls and passing vision and Chad Coombes best player in Japan 06 and probably the hardest working midfield player in the last NZFC season
sadly Jonathan did not get to play in Japan after the whole wilkinson debacle.
 
I think Grant young has always been the fans favourite at Kiwitea it seemed to me he was everyone elses favourite not Smith who just happens to be mine I still think Smith is the greatest player to wear the city shirt.
 
Sam Jasper is an interesting one for Otago who on paper look to have the makings of a good team,I would expect them to at least make the play offs in the new season.
Here's another (completely unbiased) Ronnie Goodlass type opinion, Sam Jasper scored the best free kick I've ever seen in NZ in a Northern Premier League game playing for North Shore against Central United beating Ross Nicholson from 35 yards in a match North shore went on to win 4-3    
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Crikey, and there I was thinking that someone in the last umpteen posts on this topic would actually be talking about transfers for the coming NZFC season! I guess not.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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footyfever wrote:
focus on local players such as cam parkin,
 
If in local you mean Otago - Cam is from HB, he was only down at Dunedin for university.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Heard Waikato have signed Joel and Sam Mathews, Craig Wyllie
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i have heard that gill may move if not already moved to hb united
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Three new transfer rumours:
 
1: Michael Mayne to Manawatu - Apparently Michael Mayne has been in talks with newly appointed Manawatu Manager Bob Sova.  Sova has heard from various scouts that Mayne has been playing well this winter for Hamilton Wanderers and has decided to sign the young center back, but with a few conditions - One was that Mayne had to lose more weight  (sources say between 10-15kg) and had to come into pre season fit - or he wouldnt play.
 
2: Aaron Scott to Wellington - After an impressive stint with the U23's, Jacobs has decided that he likes the look of the multi-positional Scott and is trying to persuade him to come down to Wellington.  Scott is a Waikato man through and through, however with the right contract and Riki Herbert on the lookout I dont think that Scott will have to think to much about this move.
 
3:  Sam Wilkinson to Canterbury - Wilkinson Jnr is looking to show all of his doubters that he doesnt have to just play for his fathers teams in the NZFC to get a game.  He has been in talks with Canterbury and after taking the winter season of because of personal reasons Junior has decided enough is enough and is looking to sign with Canterbury.
 
All the best to all three players, especially Wilkinson who is a very talented young player and I hope he gets treated better than the way he did at Auckland.  At least week in and week out when he plays well for Canterbury like he did for Auckland people will appreciate him!
 
 
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Auckland people wont appreciate him because he is a Poor player, he never performed for ACFC..He would not make both Waitak and ACFC squads. Why was he treated poorly at Auckland City?
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First of Wilkinson is not a poor player - he is very good and unlucky not to be involved in some way with the New Zealand setup.  Im not too sure but from what I have heard he was treated badly from the fans and the players - He has got all the attributes of a quality midfielder - hes definitly better than Jeff Campbell (he is a lot harder than Campbell to start wth).

feedback2008-08-25 15:35:41
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Are you having a laugh saying Wilkinson is better than Jeff Campbell? Hmmm one player has represented the All whites and been involved with very successful teams and the other has won nothing.  If you are trying to say Wilkinson is a good player then let him show everyone by playing week in and week out in the NZFC and i'll accept that but your comparison to Jeff Campbell is a poor one as Sam was never at Auckland City when Jeff was.  I believe he was given a few chances but never took his opportunities at Auck City to challenge a midfield of Smudger Smith and Paul Seaman.
It is also strange that you say he was treated badly by the fans and players.....surely the coaching staff pick the team!
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The biggest transfers we want to hear about are the international transfers that will end up at Waikat and Auckland City.

Has anyone heard anything as to whom those two will be bringing in?

I for one love the fact that those two sides continually try to outdo each other and the NZFC's top teams are getting better and better.


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Ross McKenzie getting a call from Milicich - somehow that one has got to be a laugh. Exactly who in either Auck City or Waitak would he replace or be better than?

I would imagine that Ross Mckenzie would get calls from 4 or 5 of the Franchises but somehow I doubt that either Club would be giving him a call as which striker between Young, Jordan, Urlovic, Pearce, Totori, Krishna, Menapi, Koprivic, Hayne would he be better than?

More to the point why would Ross go to a Franchise he had no chance of playing in.

Keep up the speculation - who knows some of it has to be right. We will all just have to wait i suppose.

Ivan Vicelich to play for City . . .
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Totori wont be playing NZFC - he's moved to the USL1 with Portland

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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Marama wrote:
The biggest transfers we want to hear about are the international transfers that will end up at Waikat and Auckland City.

Has anyone heard anything as to whom those two will be bringing in?

I for one love the fact that those two sides continually try to outdo each other and the NZFC's top teams are getting better and better.


I know of an Auckland City one but I'm sworn to secrecy... cracking record at a decent level if it comes off.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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PROAK wrote:
Totori wont be playing NZFC - he's moved to the USL1 with Portland


He's had injury problems though, I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see him back.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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feedback wrote:
 
All the best to all three players, especially Wilkinson who is a very talented young player and I hope he gets treated better than the way he did at Auckland.  At least week in and week out when he plays well for Canterbury like he did for Auckland people will appreciate him!


Are you Roger in disguise.

To be fair to Sam, he has technical ability, just uses it all at the wrong time. He always tries goofy step overs that never fake the defender or he turns back into players after he has beaten them.
Also if you watch Sam, he also coughs up possession too easily in that he passes to the opposition or passes to no-one in an empty space or he'll hld onto it too long and not make the easy pass when the man is open. I honestly ask you to watch and see for yourself and you will find out with your own eyes.

He wasn't treated poorly at Auckland simply cause he didn't play.
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That was part of the reason he wasnt treated well - Alan Jones didnt play him! He was never given a chance!  I think that most of the people on this website would agree with me that Sam is one of New Zealands better players..... Do you want me to start a poll to prove it?
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Grenade wrote:
Interesting to hear Ross Mckenzies name pop up.  Having seen Ross play during his prime (2002 Melville Season) I would have to say that he is too good for the SPL (Aside from Tech everyone in the league is crap!).  I would love to see him re-join Auckland City where for a brief time he was a fans favourite. 
I also believe Ross` best position is a Left back roll, as a striker I think he maybe lacks the ability of a Steven Holloway to score regularly , where as at left back he reminds meof a young Dean Gordon.
Dino10 is a mug - Ross Mac Rules
 
Looks like TECH may take second in the SPL if they can get past Roslyn. Doesn't look like they will catch up to Caversham. There are three decent teams in the league.
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