Transfers

Good post there Bruce.

Inside sources tell me that Aaron will stay in Waikato and he believes that Kevin can teach him and that all the kids Kevin will bring in will allow his talent to shine brightly . . . . . (insert tui comment)

I hate the fact that we lose our best players to other franchises. If Aaron goes then what are we doing in this Franchise when we can't afford to offer or keep our best players.

I think in the NZFC it's all about players looking for success rather than money Marama (not every time but in general), if Fallon can get the good times rolling then maybe players won't want to leave (I'm dubious but hey, would be interesting to be proven wrong, certainly would up the interest factor of the NZFC).

Excellent post.

Fair play sam, stick around, we need a few cool heads like yours in the NZFC threads...

Best of luck for the season wherever you play

Sam the game is all about speed and tempo, thats it, thats the difference between the haves and have nots. The quicker and faster you do things the further up the food chain you sit, what the hell you on about.......you been listening to the wrong people for two long mate.

Not far to compare Barca to Waikato like comparing Formula 1 to a bloody 1960's mini...

Not sure Wilkinson's clan allowed to disrespect Charles Hughes either mate he taught your dad all he knows and all the so called success your dad had was through that style of play and trust me here i know.

And the excuse that Roger has changed is rubbish...he is trying maybe to get the ipod working through AM radio just won't work, looks pathetic, to old.

The season Waikato finished 7th the ended up with more points than the year they finished 5th on the back of Roger Wilkinson saying in Soccer Express he would be new dynamic game to the Waikato that had never been seen before.....yea right.

Shame you not going read this Sam......you need to get out of Salom's lot before its too late.

actually Sam it is all about speed and tempo and getting the ball into areas you want to get it. It just doesnt have to be heaved in there as soon as you win possession. We have an entire cache of coaches who espouse keep ball but end up going nowhere. The speed at which international and professional teams hurt a team is by moving the ball quickly, in possession, to create a gap or space in which they can exploit. Spain who won the 08 Euro's passed the ball quicker than many many sides and they retained possesion but as soon as they saw an opportunity the ball was delivered at speed with players moving at speed.

Keeping possession is not the same as being effective with that possession. Long ball needs to be given away as a tactic of choice but so does keeping possession for no other reason but to keep it.

I watched a lot of NZFC last year and the sides that epitomised hurting sides were Wgtn, Auck, Waitak. They all could keep possession when they wanted to but when they saw bad opposition players make poor positional or tracking runs the ball was delivered to their strikers in areas where they were one on one to score goals.

The best example of this was the NZFC Final when Wgtn kept the ball for long periods in the second half and went nowhere. Watching live you could see Waitak seeing up for the counter-attack and channelling Wgtn into less dangerous areas. The second goal was counter-attacking at its best - as soon as Waitak won the ball it was passed quickly to Pearce who shifted it to Krishna who passed it back to Pearce to score - 3 passes all on the ground and the movement swept 80 metres. It was a movement that obviously had been coached as it was tactically astute, kept possession, all passes on the ground, opposition out of shape and within 10 seconds Waitak went from 1-0 to 2-0 and game was over.

Waitak could have elected to just retain possession but they had been set up in the 2nd half to counter-attack and that is a lot different to long-ball or possession football.

Fergusson quote: "Playing Juventus is so hard the moment you lose possession they nearly score" on Juventus when they counter-attacked.

Playing Football is neither long ball or possession football but being effective in possession when the state of the game dictates it.

Why would they want to?

I think he's found his level.

A fit Sean Devine is still a classs act in front of goal....if only Waikato would sign him and then he could stay down and pop them in for Melville as well...i am sure he stevie h and matty w would make a nice front three

Hello Sam, I know you're out there. I can hear the chatter. Fair point on the injuries, and, yes, it was a frustrating Waikato season well beyond events which you could control, particularly with the absence of key players far too often, and the peculiarities of Waikato football, where home games can be 100s of kms from home in completely alien places.

QFT

Noah Hickey to Waikato

I saw him play quite a few games for Metro this season and, while I usually say if you're old enough you're good enough, he's too old. He just can't run anymore. Yes, he still has a superb touch and a bit of craft in front of goal, but unless he gets the ball to feet, he ain't movin'!

Ivan to be named captain of ACFC - look for them to announce a raft of new signings in the next week too.

sh*t Vicelich is playing for Auckland city is he? Well theres a ready made replacement for Sigmund if I ever saw one. Can't help wondering who came out better off (Phoenix vs Auckland) there..

two fijians from manawatu and nelson sale to ACFC

Surely Finau and Vakatalesau haven't gone to Auckland!

Folks.

I had a request from Auckland City to remove some discussion here as nothing has been confirmed and it could impact 'discussions'.  We'll re-engage this chat once/if the signing is confirmed.

hmmmm... in retrospect maybe I should have hidden the posts instead of deleting them ?  Oh well.

wow i cant belive people actaully waste their time looking and worrying about stuff on these forums - ive had a number of ocassions people getting senstive over stuff - amazing

You would think so...  but the DomPosts display last week proved that stuff on here can be turned in to something a lot more significant than it should be... although that's not the case with Auckland City.  An acquaintance of mine at the club just mentioned it in passing so I thought I'd help them out.

They aren't too sensitive about it.

its not that big of a coup for ACFC to get these 2 Fijians is it?... if it is in fact true. i saw them both play last yr and wasnt too impressed by them. the big lad up front had size and presence but he lacks goals i though and the man at the back was woeful vs hb when they played in manawatu. Most players in the NZFC would like to play for Auks if wanted as they have set the bench mark along with Waitak and on what i saw i dont think they will push anyone out of a spot

This is of course only my opinion

I significantly doubt if either of those players has been signed by Auckland City. From what I hear the Waitak squad is sounding ominous and Auckland wouldn't sign average players as they need to beat Waitak this year or the $$ difference could be huge.

Waitak are certainly flying under the radar and yet lots of people are saying they have been offered contracts etc.

Anyone know anyone at Waitak to get some facts . . .

surely its not acfc's place to tell us what to disscuss on an independant chat room

No, but someone 'near' the club had announced something as fact when it wasn't fact...  that could be a legal risk.

Plus it could put the signing in question at risk, and it would probably be a good signing for the NZFC.
Hard News2008-09-05 17:13:38

No, you suck...

 ship

Ivam Vicelich Has Signed For Auckland City

Spud2008-09-05 21:32:35

Like I'm gunna help out Auckland Citys transfer dealings, boohoo to them! Either them or Waitak will still walk away with the league again this season. I admired Vakatalesau's all round play but the fact he didn't put the ball in the net was a major with the less keen observer. Vaka arrived one season too late as him and Totori playing together would've been something pretty special I think. So Vakatalesau with Keryn Jordan or whoever could be fairly succesful. Finau might look alright with Vicelich next to him I spose.

So, let me get this straight.

Sale, Finau, Vakatalesau, Salesh Kumar, the mystery player, Kim, Jordan, Young... the other Korean still around ?

Ryan Nelsen won't be impressed.  They'll have less kiwi's in the starting line-up than the Phoenix at that rate.
Baiter2008-09-08 10:52:52

what is this talk bout a possible spanish player coming to auks. it seems every yr ACFC sign a foreign player which gives fred and dennis something to wank over at world of football...then give him a nickname like the 'cannon shooter' with a banner at their home ground. will the latest signing be the 'matador' perhaps. would love to hear other possible nicknames

All rumours at this stage