http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
1. Over the top foul on McKain should have been a red card.
2. South Korean hand ball should have been a yellow card and a free kick into the box.
3. Third goal was set up by a guy who received the ball in an offside position.
4. Fourth goal Brosque(?) was offside when he received the ball.
Now how would the game have gone.
Someone else deal with steve-o.
I personally don't believe it was intentional, but according to the interpretations of the laws of the game, it is still a handball.
Someone else deal with steve-o.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Apologies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Only the ref would have been in THE best position to see Payne handle the ball. The linesman on the bench side wouldn't have had a prayer looking through all the players that were in the penalty area & the arm that made contact with the ball was Paynes left arm putting that on the wrong side of the linesman view.
Nah, if the lino was doing what he was supposed to (ie. staying in line with the last defender), then he wouldve had the best view as Payne was the most forward player at the time of the incident. Replays confirm there were zero obstacles between Payne and the sideline obstructing any view. Lino should be the one looked at here. 99% of all players wouldve taken the goal in that situation under the do or die circumstances of finals football.

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert
And everyone saying that moment changed the game, apart from the five minutes from when we scored. We were terrible first half. No one stood up and took charge. Bertos, Brown, Muscat, Greeny, Ifill, Lochy were all terrible. Ricki left it to late with the subs. Alot of things were bad about our performance.
Apart from that incident, I thought Payne was good for Sydney. Was running circles around Lochy the first half, was good second half also. I honestly hope Sydney win, mostly because I can't stand Thompson overrated player and Muscat a REAL cheater.
Very few pro players would admit they broke the rules like that - and if it was your player you wouldn't bat an eyelid.
It sucks, it hurts, but you lost 4-2 tonight and were all at sea in the second half. Brosque in particular f**ks with your defence and no single handball changes the fact that over 90mins tonight your players didn't really turn up.
Brilliant Stevo. If Ricki had had the presence of mind to repeat that word for word it would have been f**king funny.
And Jaza - f**k off mate. At least have the class to stay off our forum why we are dealing with this OK? Phoenix fans are the one group who do not have to defend, or make excuses for, Chris Payne. Everybody else will do a fine job of that, believe me.
Your crowd last night was a disgrace by the way. Karma dictates you are going down against Melbourne.

there are many precedents for cheating....it wont stop and we cant change it so Im going to say to myself FISHMO..and enrol in angstmanagement course..
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10631950
This better not be true, I'm angry on the basis that noone saw it, but if the Ref saw it and tries to explain it away like that.....
I hope his mother dies in a freak yachting accident.
And how is Liam Reddy going to integrate alongside Payne in the same team next year, that is what I want to know ...
tonight and I'll do other gruesome things till he confesses.
also got a "can this potato get more fans than chris payne" on facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10150138144220206phoenix_luver2010-03-14 10:20:49
Please watch the footage. He was quite obviously making an attempt with to head it in. He had his head down ready for it.
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration:
� the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
� the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
� the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
What if Aloisi hadn't pulled up lame.
What if the Nix had defended the free-kick properly and stopped the ball getting to Payne (let alone his arm)
...we probably would have lost still. They outplayed us...
Any way another one to put on the "underarm bowling' list
Aussies can't really help it .. it's in their DNA ...
). There was the opportunity to just own up. It wasn't intentional, therefore no risk of a card - but for the sake of the game and the league, he should have owned up. He is going to wear this for a very long time now.
Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic
(For those of you who don't remember)
Yeah, but if it's not intentional he has nothing to own up to - if it's an accident, then owning up to doing it accidentally is just glorified gloating.
In the few seconds after 'scoring' , you wouldn't have the time to weigh up the pros and cons for owning up. You have just scored, your team is winning, and on their way to <insert final of comp here> and at that point in time that's all that matters.
Later you think, dammit I should have told the ref, then I may have picked up the 'Sportsperson of the Day' certificate (with Mcdonalds Vouchers and a Moro Bar), and would be lauded by the Media, and pick up the Mr. Nice Guy nick-name.
but then if you had, you would have stood the chance of getting the sh*t kicked out of you in the sheds at half-time, and your own fans turning against you as you are known as the 'Pr*ck that lost us the chance to win <insert final of comp here>.
So you prefer the ire/venom of the opposing fans and take the goal
and if you would own up to the ref, at what level would you stop doing it..Kickabout with mates. ,Social League game ,Local Area Club game ,NZFC,A-League ,A-League Finals, International (Friendly) ,International World Cup Qualifiers......
Anyway.... I still think he is a C*nt
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Genuine opinion: FTFFA

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
Including the use of the printed copy of this picture to inflict a multitude of paper cuts

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration:
� the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
� the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
� the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
Yer sorry my recall of the law was a bit dodgy. I was thinking it was allowed to be unintentional but those 3 criteria could make it a FK.
So essentially, because there was ample distance between where the free kick was taken and the location of the handball (ie. plenty of time for the player to get his arm away from the path of the ball), makes it deliberate. Thus handball.
In the few seconds after 'scoring' , you wouldn't have the time to weigh up the pros and cons for owning up. You have just scored, your team is winning, and on their way to <insert final of comp here> and at that point in time that's all that matters.
Later you think, dammit I should have told the ref, then I may have picked up the 'Sportsperson of the Day' certificate (with Mcdonalds Vouchers and a Moro Bar), and would be lauded by the Media, and pick up the Mr. Nice Guy nick-name.
but then if you had, you would have stood the chance of getting the sh*t kicked out of you in the sheds at half-time, and your own fans turning against you as you are known as the 'Pr*ck that lost us the chance to win <insert final of comp here>.
So you prefer the ire/venom of the opposing fans and take the goal
and if you would own up to the ref, at what level would you stop doing it..Kickabout with mates. ,Social League game ,Local Area Club game ,NZFC,A-League ,A-League Finals, International (Friendly) ,International World Cup Qualifiers......
Anyway.... I still think he is a C*nt
Yes, I would have owned up because I would be showing faith in my 10 team-mates that we can win the good old fashioned way.
IMO, the guy is lower than low, and I hope like hell he makes another guest appearance but this time at the ROF. He's probably more despised than Mitchell Johnson could ever be despite being a dummy who thought it would be prudent to head butt a HELMET! I love sport, all sport, and frankly when you see diabolical cheating, and there's no other word for it so let's be PC and beat around the bush, it sickens me. A whole season on the line, and some substiute comes on and does a Maradona. I didn't like it then, I don't like it now, the only difference is Diego Maradona was a God on the pitch this goose is a benchie in the A-League.
All in all, great season, and hopefully a bit of motivation stems from this for next season.
Perfect!! We'd better be playing them at RoF instead of elsewhere.
Perfect!! We'd better be playing them at RoF instead of elsewhere.
Hopefully the first game of the season!
"Phoenix till they lose"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone