Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords

one is free and one is not.

I didn't think it was illegal to watch streamed games on the web - it is illegal to stream them without the correct authorisation, but if someone does that it is not illegal to watch them.

this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

Yip, if all you have is Freeview then with Sommet Sports coming on the scene and some free EPL on TVNZ you are now significantly better off as a footy fan. On balance I think this is a big boost for football in NZ. NZF should be considering jumping ship to one of Sommet or Coliseum also. Then the only issue is the A-League.

Of course, this will only be the situation for the next year or two until all the rights get re-negotiated and go back on the merry-go-round again.

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this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

Is there a way to transfer the picture from your computer to your TV? I'm not technically savvy. Will be a pain having to watch a game on my laptop when I have a 54 inch TV sitting there doing nothing. :(

If you laptop has HDMI out, then you can plug in a cable to your TV easily. If not, your TV will probably have a VGA (standard blue computer screen cable) input that you could use to show the picture, you'd need to plug the sound from your headphone jack on the laptop into the TV too though.

The only valid concern is connection speeds and reliability, as well as data cap - though that can be raised with the money you'd normally shell out to sky. 

I personally think this will be a spectacular fail for various reasons.

 

1: Ease. Most people have sky now. Yes its a change and people don't like it but you have now made it complicated as people have to sit in front of a PC screen when previously, they just changed the channel while curled up on the couch.

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2: If my Dad was knocking around, would he know how to stream on the internet? Basically you have wiped out a demographic above the age of about 55. I know what I am doing but that's cause I have moved with the times. I put myself in the minority.

And yet the same demographic would have invested truckloads in sky setup and decoders etc.  It's like all change:  Once you do it you get used to it

3: Do I want to watch this on a 4' or 10' screen as opposed to my 44'? Yeah I can jack it up to my TV but can I actually be bothered when my sky box does it already?

As Tegal said - easy to connect with a QWERTY cable or whatever it is called (I do it all the time for justin.tv etc)

4: MySky. Can you watch the game in 2x stream on the internet and fast forward through the HT break? End of.

Presumably MyFreeview does similar? ANother $350 but 

5: This works on the assumptions that the quality of feed is good and that there is no data cap on it.

Yes, of course.  Otherwise it's back to justin.tv 

6: For the younger folk of today that are tech savvy and have all these fancy idevices, do most of them have $150, $250 that they are just going to part with when they will find other ways to find it anyway? Justin.tv?

They probably spend that on coffee in a week 

7: My son got up and watched Spain 82 when he was a little tacker at the wee hours of the morning. Explain to me how you are all going to crowd around the small screen as a family (and if you stream it across multiple devices then its double the bandwidth usage).

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8: If you don't have a PC or don't have internet, what do you do then? You might be surprised at the amount of people (and again I am looking at the 55+ demo) that do not have the internet.

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9: So TVNZ have 1 game. Do I really want to watch Stoke vs Reading (or whoever?)

Never, ever

This country is not advanced enough yet nor does it have the population model to be able to support it. Take 50k subscribers at $150. I am sure the rights cost more than $750k a year and that does not include the backend costs....

Probably doing this as a loss leader to see what the demand for this sort of service is. 

Call me a pessimist but I just do not see it working in any sense.

You are a pessimist. And I'm anal retentive.  Shall we get together sometime?

Why wouldn't you get up? 

The game would still be on, and playing live. You can still watch it on as big a screen as you like, curled up on a couch - or even a bean bag if you prefer! You can also fast forward rewind etc on media players. 

The only valid concern is connection speeds and reliability, as well as data cap - though that can be raised with the money you'd normally shell out to sky. 

 Take 50k subscribers at $150. I am sure the rights cost more than $750k a year and that does not include the backend costs....

 

Call me a pessimist but I just do not see it working in any sense.

A lot of people will want to keep Sky, as there are other sports (and other football) they are interested in.  So a lot of people still be paying for Sky, and spending additional money on this product and increased data on their broadband.  Thumbs up.

I agree with you on most of your points, your math is bad though 150 x 50,0000 is 7.5m, but probably still less than the rights.

Ok I accept what you are saying and again, I am in an older demo so in terms of viewers, I am not in the majority.

 

At 61, semi retired and with disposable cash, let me tell you right now, I can't be fucked. I don't get up and watch it live because...... MYSKY!!! It means I sleep normally and watch it with ease when I want. The older demo like me might be moaning cunts but we have cold hard cash, something a lot of university flats do not have. I'm not saying they have to pander to people like me at all and I accept that but when it comes to paying the bills and being on time, I'm not an issue.

 

I'm not moaning that they are doing this because as part of free enterprise, giddyup. I am simply saying this will not work and it definitely will not see out the 3 years without changes.

 

Its quite simple and I think you are going to find a few other old cunts like me are of a similar mindset.

Ok I accept what you are saying and again, I am in an older demo so in terms of viewers, I am not in the majority.

 

At 61, semi retired and with disposable cash, let me tell you right now, I can't be fucked. I don't get up and watch it live because...... MYSKY!!! It means I sleep normally and watch it with ease when I want. The older demo like me might be moaning cunts but we have cold hard cash, something a lot of university flats do not have. I'm not saying they have to pander to people like me at all and I accept that but when it comes to paying the bills and being on time, I'm not an issue.

 

I'm not moaning that they are doing this because as part of free enterprise, giddyup. I am simply saying this will not work and it definitely will not see out the 3 years without changes.

 

Its quite simple and I think you are going to find a few other old cunts like me are of a similar mindset.

Soup kitchens are free, but I bet you don't eat dinner there every night.

I am also with Jeff on getting up middle of the night, the reason I got mySky was to stop having to ruin my sleep pattern to watch Live F1, EPL etc, so not having every game able to be recorded is going to suck...

But it is actually better, with a few exceptions like additional cost in the short term for those still keeping sky for other sport and competitions, and concerns over our shoddy nz Internet. 

Totally different. 

So no one here has downloaded a movie from TPB ???

I use a proxy, never been sent any warnings. Sure if they really wanted to find me they could, but i'm more than happy to take that chance. Oh and there is no way 50k people will sign up for this. How can these people make any money ? is that even the aim ?

It'll all be recorded for you. In fact I'm looking forward to it freeing up space on the mysky planner :p.

It'll be: 

Opening up the website and pushing play vs opening up mysky planner and pushing play. 

So it is better apart from the additional cost, and the fact that the broadband we have is shit and expensive?

Well, nothing important then.

I don't understand the argument though. By the same rationale, how did sky make any money if people could just watch illegal streams for free?

Their website says 280 games will be available on demand, so that means 100 games not available on demand, 3 games a week.

I am leaning towards cancelling Sky and getting Freeview, EPL, NFL & NHL packages, but hope I can find some way to watch motorsport. Just worry right now is not all games on demand...not a live watcher as much now.

Expensive relative to other places.

But still affordable.  50 GB per month @ $85 (plus landline)  - I would think that could cover 4-6 EPL games a month and still have data to play WoT or WoTeva.