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Tegal wrote:
JonoNewton wrote:
Tegal wrote:
JonoNewton wrote:

I am also with Jeff on getting up middle of the night, the reason I got mySky was to stop having to ruin my sleep pattern to watch Live F1, EPL etc, so not having every game able to be recorded is going to suck...

It'll all be recorded for you. In fact I'm looking forward to it freeing up space on the mysky planner :p.

It'll be: 

Opening up the website and pushing play vs opening up mysky planner and pushing play. 

Their website says 280 games will be available on demand, so that means 100 games not available on demand, 3 games a week.

I am leaning towards cancelling Sky and getting Freeview, EPL, NFL & NHL packages, but hope I can find some way to watch motorsport. Just worry right now is not all games on demand...not a live watcher as much now.

How many games did sky have per week? I can't exactly remember, but reckon itd work out about the same? Could be wrong about that though. Don't really understand why they can't have all games on demand. 

 Plus alot more games would be live (and you can watch more than one at once - awesome for last day of EPL season).

Oh agreed this will be awesome, I like it.
Sky had 7-9 games most weekends (Generally I would record all and watch the best I had recorded at the time I woke) - So true probably the same actually...
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Junior82 wrote:

My dad (who is much older than me, and I'm an old crustie in spirit) is much more tech savvy than me.  I like easy plug and play solutions and I think that the service for this will be not too far off that.


Not my place.  The wife and kids will get suspicious...


Auckland Domain? Apparently its all the rage... (which actually makes me sound quite perverted now that I have typed that)
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No modern household uses less than 50GB a month.

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Frankie Mac wrote:

Tegal wrote:
But it is actually better, with a few exceptions like additional cost in the short term for those still keeping sky for other sport and competitions, and concerns over our shoddy nz Internet. 

So it is better apart from the additional cost, and the fact that the broadband we have is shit and expensive?

Well, nothing important then.

So it costs more, potentially see less games and screened in a 1st world country with 3rd world internet and pricing. Much better.
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How exactly does it see less games? All games live (so more games) and about the same games available to watch whenever you want (no idea why not all games again).

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I do like the ipad streaming. That's handy. I'm just concerned about the picture quality. NZ internet speeds won't be able to replicate normal HD tv viewing.

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Tegal wrote:
But it is actually better, with a few exceptions like additional cost in the short term for those still keeping sky for other sport and competitions, and concerns over our shoddy nz Internet. 

This is the one point I do not think we will agree on.

a: I pay $110 a month now for Sky. I will pay that next month without EPL and I paid that last month with EPL. Now there are other sports I want to watch (Basketball, League) so compared to last month, its now to my deficit as I pay the same and get less for it.

b: If I want to watch a service I used to have, I now have to pay an extra $150 for that and view it in a different manner that may or may not be as good a quality as what I currently have with possibly not the same comfort (if I don't set my TV up) with a possible increase in costs to an internet provider (and if I am with anyone not named Telecom I am poked) without the ability to watch it/fast forward it or view in when I want nor with the full range of 7-9 games I used to pick and chose with only (what did someone say?) 3 games available. And that's assuming I have the technology to be able to do so.

 

Its the way of the future, and its different and certainly a change, but you cannot bill it as better. It becomes better it its all in one internet capable set top box with all feeds able to plug into it, Sky reduce my fee and my internet is unaffected.

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nufc_nz wrote:

I do like the ipad streaming. That's handy. I'm just concerned about the picture quality. NZ internet speeds won't be able to replicate normal HD tv viewing.

It'll be interesting to see what its like. I've watched MLBTV online before and the quality can be just like HDTV. However it is prone to that quality fading out and even lag for live games. On demand is ok. 

However that is obviously from a server in the states, perhaps this will be much better from a local server (I don't quite understand precisely how this works).

As for the business model, the great thing about the Internet as opposed to a TV provider is it isn't so local. Resources can be shared across different regions, so giving access to people in nz may not cost anything much more than giving access to someone in Asia for instance - as long as you have the rights to give them access. There is more potential there is I guess what I'm saying. 

Ah sorry JV I misunderstood. Yeah I agree it isn't so great cost wise for those who want to watch things on sky as well as the EPL in the short term (I'm included in this). Don't think you can turn that one point into 2 though :p

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If you cancel SKY how will you watch the a league ?

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Frankie, you can still watch your motor sport via TV3. 

I think this whole thing sucks. Not everyone could afford nor have access to ultra fast broadband. WTF were Sky thinking? Some people on here were suggesting a football channel and then Sky make this cluster fuck. 

Dear Sky, not every subscriber is a die hard sole thugby follower. You will certainly lose some subscribers. Whether they drop the sports package or their whole sky package all together is open to debate.

Sport channel - $27 or the whole bundle that I get = $77 per month. hmmm tempted to ditch the lot. If the A League games were also lost, i'd have killed Sky today. I love my live football. Being a shift worker, I was quite happy to watch games in the middle of the night.

Like Frankie, I might investigate subscribing to EPL or perhaps just QPR World so i can get all 46 of their games. probably cost me about $80NZ but then, I'll get to see them. Just have to increase my BB cap up from 10 gig to something bigger and faster - using the money i'd have spent of Sky.

Listen here Fudgeface
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nufc_nz wrote:

If you cancel SKY how will you watch the a league ?

At Westpac Stadium and Four Kings.
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nufc_nz wrote:

If you cancel SKY how will you watch the a league ?

Yeah that's what I'm wrestling with. Can always go to four kings I guess haha. 

I can watch EPL, NBA and baseball online through subscriptions. That means I can take those things out of a sky package. So it becomes 'is it worth the sky subscription to watch A league, warriors games, hurricanes games, test cricket and all blacks tests' 

Can't decide. Currently leaning toward yes because of so many ashes tests being on this year. 

Somebody also mentioned sky only has A league rights for another season, so that could be interesting. 

Ideally, sky falls and you can subscribe to watch whatever you want on an individual basis. Or, sky start offering that (not likely)

Btw, good chat lately nufc_nz. 

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FIFA World Cup next year. Will SKY get that ? If not i'll fuckin burn that decoder.

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Gooners have a digital m/ship available from this coming season which gives all games delayed in full (and HD) plus match day and shitloads of magazine programs... the price for that? Nothing... so combined with the TV One coverage I may play it by ear - or pick and chose... or maybe not.

At least now we have options. Annoyingly, cheaper Sky won't be one of them.

Listen here Fudgeface
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Tegal wrote:

Btw, good chat lately nufc_nz. 

This.
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Tegal wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:

If you cancel SKY how will you watch the a league ?

Yeah that's what I'm wrestling with. Can always go to four kings I guess haha. 

I can watch EPL, NBA and baseball online through subscriptions. That means I can take those things out of a sky package. So it becomes 'is it worth the sky subscription to watch A league, warriors games, hurricanes games, test cricket and all blacks tests' 

Can't decide. Currently leaning toward yes because of so many ashes tests being on this year. 

Somebody also mentioned sky only has A league rights for another season, so that could be interesting. 

Ideally, sky falls and you can subscribe to watch whatever you want on an individual basis. Or, sky start offering that (not likely)

Btw, good chat lately nufc_nz. 


So what your saying is, You really really think I should get another star. 
Mods - Tegal knows best. 
Listen here Fudgeface
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nufc_nz wrote:


So what your saying is, You really really think I should get another star. 

Mods - Tegal knows best. 

I had a look through the code, and didn't find anything to do with increasing the number of stars shown, so have no idea how to do it. 
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Tegal wrote:
Can't decide. Currently leaning toward yes because of so many ashes tests being on this year. 

The aussie cricket will be interesting, channel 9 just renewed their rights for 100mil/year up from like 45mil. So whoever's selling the rights will probably be looking for more now.
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terminator_x wrote:

By the way, as long as the A-League is still through Sky is anyone really cancelling their subscription?

At the moment, I can only see this being more costly for footy fans.


agreed.. same amount of coverage.. extra cost to view it
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patrick478 wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:


So what your saying is, You really really think I should get another star. 

Mods - Tegal knows best. 

I had a look through the code, and didn't find anything to do with increasing the number of stars shown, so have no idea how to do it. 

Come on Patrick, give him a Star


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Just checked Vodafone, 100 gig superfast bb = $85.95nzd

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patrick478 wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:


So what your saying is, You really really think I should get another star. 

Mods - Tegal knows best. 

I had a look through the code, and didn't find anything to do with increasing the number of stars shown, so have no idea how to do it. 




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the ant wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

By the way, as long as the A-League is still through Sky is anyone really cancelling their subscription?

At the moment, I can only see this being more costly for footy fans.

agreed.. same amount of coverage.. extra cost to view it



Surely someone should be getting in touch with Sky and asking for a discount given that the EPL was about half of their Sunday sports viewing...I mean Sky is vastly overpriced and over-bundled. Plus it's been a virtual monopoly for some time now.

But I owe TVNZ an apology- have to laugh though- on the main TVNZ website this is the top story. LOLOLOL. Not even sure if football was the top story there during the WC and they really haven't had any reporter a la Gourdie with football chops or respect. They have tended to run negative press on the Phoenix if it is at all possible. A chance to earn chops. Not Martin Devlin please!

EDIT: "Fellett said Sky would instead be showing more All Whites, Football Ferns and Wellington Phoenix games to compensate for the loss of the EPL."

They already show all the WP games, and had all the AWs and FFs games lined up pre-losing the EPL. Showing the Confed Cup as an EPL replacement makes some sense. Saying you are showing more games of something you have already committed to show all of already equals patronising to your footballing customer base.
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Probably just more replays of the Nix/All Whites etc...like with rugby, surely they can claim each time it plays it gets new viewers = More games?

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Champions league on SKY as well I just remembered. Have to have both I think.

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Sky Network's shares have plunged by 8.3% according to Ch-10 News online site in Aus.


Opinion Privileges revoked
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I get down on my knees and pray that these guys get the A-League at some stage in the future. I'll totally pay for a fast, reliable, ad-free stream for Nix games. As it is, I intend to pay for Serie A so I can see Hellas Verona back with the big boys after 11 years and kicking ass on those Ch**vo drones.

Also, getting Freeview soon so looking to check out Sommet to see the occasional Stuttgart and AFC Wimbledon game.

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Jeff Vader wrote:
Junior82 wrote:

Expensive relative to other places.

But still affordable.  50 GB per month @ $85 (plus landline)  - I would think that could cover 4-6 EPL games a month and still have data to play WoT or WoTeva.


Your problem is that some people will watch that many games in a week when they are not skyping, youtube, Netflix....

Not my problem!  
And if they are doing all of that they won't have time for football.
#prioritiespeople
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Doloras wrote:

I get down on my knees and pray that these guys get the A-League at some stage in the future. I'll totally pay for a fast, reliable, ad-free stream for Nix games. As it is, I intend to pay for Serie A so I can see Hellas Verona back with the big boys after 11 years and kicking ass on those Ch**vo drones.

Also, getting Freeview soon so looking to check out Sommet to see the occasional Stuttgart and AFC Wimbledon game.

Yep, thats really the only thing keeping me on Sky now. As soon as this upcoming season is over im disconnecting Sky for the offseason

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Didnt watch EPL(Championship lowlife supporter) anyway but we were already considering ditching due to rubbish on rest of it.  Will see if I can extract some concession to stay but unlikely.  Only issue then is Nix away games and AWs...and buy the time I add petrol and obligatory one beer as rent at pub I may as well keep paying for Sky.

I set up laptop to TV connection for Oceania Cup and it was alright but not great..wouldnt watch any sport on laptop.

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Question - can you Watch and Bet on A-League/All Whites on the TAB website? If so I think ditching Sky is going to be way more likely

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I like how theyre saying theyre going to show more AWs, more Nix, and more Ferns. I get the more Ferns thing because theyve been pretty slack on that front, but how can they say theyre going to show more Phoenix? They already show the entire season! And more AWs doesnt mean much either when they hardly play (as often as other nations)

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As long as the internet service isn’t laggy then I think this is a great thing.  A combination of a free-to-air game each week on TVNZ with a highlights show and the opportunity to watch any game you want online.  That’s not to mention what Sommet are offering. 

I’ll definitely miss my US sports and cycling (will look into alternatives), but I’ll get over it. 

Possibly the best thing about it all is that my hard earn dollar will no longer subsidise that pissant little ‘sport’ rugby.  Bye-bye Sky.

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AJ13 wrote:

I like how theyre saying theyre going to show more AWs, more Nix, and more Ferns. I get the more Ferns thing because theyve been pretty slack on that front, but how can they say theyre going to show more Phoenix? They already show the entire season! And more AWs doesnt mean much either when they hardly play (as often as other nations)


Shower scenes after the match?
Ernie throwing bottles at them during half time?

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I’ll definitely miss my US sports and cycling (will look into alternatives), but I’ll get over it. 

For US Sports they all seem to have their on online distribution methods.
NHL = Gamecenter
NFL = Game Pass
etc So you should be able to find them as well (Probably $200 a season or so, but does just give you what you want and your choice of coverage too)
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Isn't there a really simple issue - you're changing from watching on a 45" HD screen to a 13" laptop monitor in most cases - how can anyone say that is better?

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It is ridiculously easy to plug it into a tv. Easier than plugging a mysky decoder in anyway. 

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Tegal wrote:

It is ridiculously easy to plug it into a tv. Easier than plugging a mysky decoder in anyway. 


you must be plugging the decoder in wrong!
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james dean wrote:

Isn't there a really simple issue - you're changing from watching on a 45" HD screen to a 13" laptop monitor in most cases - how can anyone say that is better?


Step 1. Plug HDMI cable into TV.
Step 2. Plug HDMI cable into laptop.
End of process.
As someone has pointed out, it's a hell of a lot easier than setting up a MySky box. You don't need to "get a man in" to install a dish either. 
So this is an absolute red herring argument for mine.
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Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:

Isn't there a really simple issue - you're changing from watching on a 45" HD screen to a 13" laptop monitor in most cases - how can anyone say that is better?


Step 1. Plug HDMI cable into TV.

Step 2. Plug HDMI cable into laptop.

End of process.

As someone has pointed out, it's a hell of a lot easier than setting up a MySky box. You don't need to "get a man in" to install a dish either. 

So this is an absolute red herring argument for mine.


Ok fair enough - I'm not very good with these things.  So it's just the fact that to make this work it requires a really expensive internet plan.  I wonder whether they have considered bundling the two?

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