English (and other British lower league) Football Discussion

Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords

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almost 13 years ago

And take it for granted that this couple of hundred will climb very rapidly in a short space of time once you are hooked in. Someone mentioned no adverts earlier, only a matter of time. I will only buy this package once they get the A league as well - when it becomes a monopoly and principle goes out the window.

So you're clearly happy paying the $110 per month for a basket of sports but not $150 for a season of EPL and as many games as you can cram in?

Yeah that makes no sense. If a season costs 1.5 months of sky. Then you could get completely full coverage of 8 different sports before it would cost more than sky.

I can get full coverage of NBA, MLB and EPL for $37 per month online. That is a chunk of my viewing. Add the A league into that for a similar amount of money as those 3, and the NRL and say cricket. All with more coverage than sky currently provides. That would be my viewing sorted. It would cost $74 per month, instead of $99.

But yeah, the sky monopoly is awesome.

Allegedly

almost 13 years ago

Sky has always been overpriced and the various pick & choose have always been stink. All I ever wanted was the News, Sport & Doco channels & dump the rest, but no, you got stuck with a lot of extra crap you didn't want. Then you had mysky, then hd, then isky or whatever it's called. So many options, if you grabbed the whole lot, it'd cost you shit loads per month. I think Sky have shot themselves in the foot - taking the audience to the cleaners and for granted.

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almost 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

So you're clearly happy paying the $110 per month for a basket of sports but not $150 for a season of EPL and as many games as you can cram in?

Yeah that makes no sense. If a season costs 1.5 months of sky. Then you could get completely full coverage of 8 different sports before it would cost more than sky.

But yeah, the sky monopoly is awesome.

Allegedly

almost 13 years ago

MLB & EPL.....hmmmmmmmmm I wonder how much NHL is ? That'd be my 3 favourite sports covered.

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almost 13 years ago

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

Redtube eh?

What's that AP?

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almost 13 years ago

bopman wrote:

The Platinum package is $230 isn't it? the $150 will be for the middling package.

The biggest problem for me (not that it will affect me in any way at the moment) is that they are saying only a portion of the games will beavailable on demand. Sky, and mySkys, great asset was the ability to record any fixture you wanted to watch at a later date or time. Doesn't sound like this will be possible here.

Yeah thats weird, don't understand why they can't have them all. But sky only showed 7-9 games per week. So it actually works out about the same for on demand. But greater Live coverage.

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almost 13 years ago

Any fever execs spoken to Coliseum/PremierLeaguePass.com yet about Yellow Fever sponsorship?

We're surely the target market being the biggest football fans and online. Get amongst it early whilst they are new.

p.s Yellow Fever subscription rates?

almost 13 years ago

mykey wrote:

p.s Yellow Fever subscription rates?

Welcome letter
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almost 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

mykey wrote:

p.s Yellow Fever subscription rates?

Personalised Welcome letter
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almost 13 years ago

What? No key Ring? - bastards!

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almost 13 years ago

It looks like 6 or 7 games a week will be on demand so not bad plus 5-6 Premier League programmes a week, Previews, Reviews etc.

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almost 13 years ago

Smithy wrote:

It shouldn't require an expensive internet plan. These sorts of services use adaptive compression to adjust the stream quality to available bandwidth.

The low level streaming options are pretty bad. I'll probably be upgrading my internet to 100mbps Vodafone, 150gb. Probably throw out sky too and get T box sky, all works out the same price.

If anyone wants a peak at what we can expect go here: https://gamepass.nfl.com/nflgp/secure/schedule Same interface, same content provider so probably same streaming speeds. 3000k is the best quality we will get not 4.5k.

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patrick478 wrote:

nufc_nz wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

nufc_nz wrote:

this is BS. If I am watching football over the internet, I sure as hell am not paying for it. What will be the difference between this and vipbox.eu ?

Convenience, quality and legality.

A reasonable equivalent would be listening to high quality streaming music over Spotify, which is nicely sorted by album/artist etc and it's easy to find exactly what you want in fantastic quality, as opposed to downloading from the Pirate Bay and finding out that you've got a shitty 120kbps copy with all the tracks out of order and no cover art. Also, one is legal and one is not.

one is free and one is not.

If you want to be slapped with a $10,000 fine for illegally downloading music rather than paying $2 for the song, then go for it.

Streaming live TV isn't illegal, it is for the person uploading it but not for the person streaming it. Vipbox.eu the new home of the premier league =)

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almost 13 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

MLB & EPL.....hmmmmmmmmm I wonder how much NHL is ? That'd be my 3 favourite sports covered.

NHL Gamecenter was around $100 for the last full season (Though not sure that would stick)

NFL appears to be about $200-$250 for a season (Going off Aus Price, as currently showing as FREE for NZ)

almost 13 years ago

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

I just don't believe in competition when it is going to cost me two hundred more bucks. Sorry

Agree

Grumpy old bastard alert

almost 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

So you're clearly happy paying the $110 per month for a basket of sports but not $150 for a season of EPL and as many games as you can cram in?

Yeah that makes no sense. If a season costs 1.5 months of sky. Then you could get completely full coverage of 8 different sports before it would cost more than sky.

But yeah, the sky monopoly is awesome.

But as you said, you would be keeping Sky, so you would be worse off. What you are describing is the future.

Considering we are all here on this forum as Phoenix fans, and Sky still have the Phoenix, ergo, I need Sky. That makes me and everyone that does not go to the games because of location or whatever because we watch the Phoenix on Sky, worse off. It will be the better option in the future, and this is something towards a good start of breaking up the monopoly but at the moment, it's not better.

And before we talk about streaming of the Phoenix games, the streams are dodgy as and generally unreliable so...

Grumpy old bastard alert

almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

I understand that as I'm in the same situation. I'm saying blame sky for that. AP was talking about not getting the EPL on principle, which is what makes no sense. You should be cutting sky on principle if anything.

Sky are also the ones who lost the EPL rights and is why we have to pay another $150 to seen the games.

Allegedly

almost 13 years ago

arnies wrote:

Smithy wrote:

It shouldn't require an expensive internet plan. These sorts of services use adaptive compression to adjust the stream quality to available bandwidth.

The low level streaming options are pretty bad. I'll probably be upgrading my internet to 100mbps Vodafone, 150gb. Probably throw out sky too and get T box sky, all works out the same price.

The servers should be NZ based so speeds should be ok depending what broadband connection you have (and the size of teh pipes from the company). If they hook up with a Telco then you may even see servers in each city which will (should) increase performance.

almost 13 years ago

JonoNewton wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

MLB & EPL.....hmmmmmmmmm I wonder how much NHL is ? That'd be my 3 favourite sports covered.

NFL appears to be about $200-$250 for a season (Going off Aus Price, as currently showing as FREE for NZ)

NFL was free for Nz last year, no idea why. But it was awesome :)

almost 13 years ago

Once you register -

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almost 13 years ago

It's really interesting the way a lot of people talk about Sky like it is a SOE that is now being privatised! It's only because they've had a monopoly for so long that we feel like that.

In the long run this has to be a good thing, but in the short term it's definitely going to cause some pain and I'm still not sure what trade-offs I'm prepared to make to get the best value for money.

I wonder if this might force Sky to further unbundle their sports offering? I.e. structure their channels more clearly around a marquee sport (e.g. Rugby, cricket, league, football) and offer cheaper single channel subs. That would allow consumers to pay for exactly what they want and probably take a lot of heat out the angst.

almost 13 years ago

EPL season starts in 58 days.

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almost 13 years ago

Quite frankly the clincher for me as to Intarwebz sports as opposed to Sky is the "on demand" capability. I want to pay for my football coverage per game if I possibly can. I don't want to pay for, for example, idiotic things like motor racing or watching Melbourne B vs Melbourne B.

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almost 13 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

Once you register -

so not that many people have registered interest yet

almost 13 years ago

Site gives no indication of registrations - no email to say I have registered interest yet. And no spec for internet or computer spec.

Just testing

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almost 13 years ago

While I don't watch much EPL and intially I thought I would purchage the online package, I now thing I will. Mostly because I want to see this work, I don't want Sky to retain a monopoly, and $150 isn't much over the course of a year.

almost 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

While I don't watch much EPL and intially I thought I would purchage the online package, I now thing I will.

Bit early to be drunk isn't it?

almost 13 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

Site gives no indication of registrations - no email to say I have registered interest yet. And no spec for internet or computer spec.

Just testing

I was going off the number of people selecting the other leagues they would be interested in. Mind you there could be a lot that were purely interested in EPL and didn't bother to click the mouse on the others.

almost 13 years ago

Hopefully we don't have to stump up $150 at once tho.

And what's to stop us sharing our log in? Obviously they could check if you on at the same time but might be good for a football club for one person to log in while down there and show footy on the big screen without having to pay a fee.

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almost 13 years ago

I want to know the reasons behind not all games being available on-demand. If it is because there will be low demand for say, Crystal Palace vs Stoke, so it's not offered on demand, then I can understand that. But I can't think of any other reason why a third of the games will not be available on demand.

On a brighter note, sitting in the work toilets with my smartphone for midweek games is going to be much better than live text on the computer :)

I'm considering switching to Tclear at the same time I get this EPL service to try and off-set some of the cost. I'm told the T-Boxes are pretty poor but I can deal with that I guess. Can I get Sommet Sports on TelstraClear?

I was very interested in the idea of purchasing online packages for the different sports I like, as suggested by others, but this is a serious issue when you like a lot of sports.

Apart from the costs starting to add up, are there even any options for rugby/nz cricket? Is watching the All Blacks on Sky the only legal way to watch them live?

almost 13 years ago

Another thing I want to know is the likelihood of some kind of partnership with an ISP so that this can be un-metered. There were initially rumours that there was a partnership with Telecom, but haven't heard anything since?

We're currently using around 10 - 15gb per month. We had a 20gb plan, but they doubled this for us at no cost a little while ago so I think we have 40gb now. Assuming this service is metered, will my spare 25gb be enough to watch say 8 full games a month? Am I dreaming?

almost 13 years ago

An hour of HD streaming will generally use between 1.5 - 2GB

almost 13 years ago

We are currently using about 80Gb per month in my house. If I want to watch 10 games per month, that will push me over the 100GB that I am currently paying for, so will require an increased cost.

I think the major problem with this is that a lot of people are going to want to keep Sky for other sports, so there will just be additional costs - $200 for the sign-up, increased bandwidth ($20 per month), potentially new and/or better hardware (at a minimum most people will need these cables to link the laptop to the TV, and they are not free). You are looking at about $500, on top of the amount you are already paying Sky.

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almost 13 years ago

I haven't laugh so much in a long time. $100m+ profit, can't justify $600k for a major offering. The world has changed. Internet is winning against satellite tv. Happy to pay $150 against around $900 per year. Might buy a sender or one of those WD TV boxes that has a grunty hard drive and plug that into whatever TV there is. Almost inclined to just stream via iPhone or iPad early on Sunday morning while still in bed. That would be luxury.

almost 13 years ago

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8819272/Telecom-may-cut-football-watching-price

Telecom thinking about offering a discount, if not completely unmetered.

almost 13 years ago

Shame we can't subscribe to Setanta here online.....

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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

almost 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8819272/Telecom-may-cut-football-watching-price

Telecom thinking about offering a discount, if not completely unmetered.

Yes good news, pity I recently signed a deal with Vodafone for sky, home and interwebs for 12 months....

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almost 13 years ago

I also hope that when TVNZ show their one game a week they bring back the Big League Soccer theme and intro. That would make it worth watching. I tried finding it on youtube to blow your mind but I couldn't.

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almost 13 years ago

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almost 13 years ago

Not officially suggesting anything, but you can hire a good quality UK VPN for about $10 a month and there are loads of address forwarding services.