England vs Croatia
I AM NO LONGER ENGLISH!! Mclaren has GOT TO GO!!
Probably the best feature was that England were given a sniff of
qualification when they came back to draw. Only to have it all
taken away from them again.
not fair enough in my view
,there's some on this board who are f**king unhappy right now, so - as above - fair enough at coming back at me for my 'youre not singing dig'
but i think you might show a little more respect for fellow football fans, i rekon your post is close to trolling, at least ginger eeijit's go had a bit of wit to it
if i went into the arsenal thread and posted stuff like yours you'd have every right to feel fkd off
so just show a bit of respect eh
to Arsenal and colvinator etc,
"youre not singing .....
"youre not singing .....
What was that?
fair enough
TBH I had a meeting the whole second half so missed it.
Look on the bright side, as least you know McClown will definitely go now.
Yess
At least Engerland didnt make it.
Im pleased.
Very Pleased.
Shame the scots arnt there tho but at least they made us
proud
Funny old game.
come on Andorra , score a goal ... get a point for once in your
life
I want us to do it, depending on andorra is a bit too tragic!
Yep
England had to depend on who winning? a bunch of teams who did
nothing at the Wc
Yess
At least Engerland didnt make it.
Im pleased.
Very Pleased.
Shame the scots arnt there tho but at least they made us
proud
ah well, I can understand you being pleased (little brother syndrome and all)
i'd been happy for Scotland to have been there preferably alongside England
perhaps the 'British' (if you'll pardon the expression) game has become outmoded (probably the case for the last 15 years)
come on Andorra , score a goal ... get a point for once in your
life
I want us to do it, depending on andorra is a bit too tragic!
Yep
England had to depend on who winning? a bunch of teams who did
nothing at the Wc
And what do the Scottish know about world cups?
come on Andorra , score a goal ... get a point for once in your
life
I want us to do it, depending on andorra is a bit too tragic!
Yep
England had to depend on who winning? a bunch of teams who did
nothing at the Wc
And what do the Scottish know about world cups?
Lots. We analyse them since we are never there 
come on Andorra , score a goal ... get a point for once in your
life
I want us to do it, depending on andorra is a bit too tragic!
Yep
England had to depend on who winning? a bunch of teams who did
nothing at the Wc
And what do the Scottish know about world cups?
Quite a lot according to Arsene Wenger who said recently that
Scotland are very close to being a major world power (at
football).
come on Andorra , score a goal ... get a point for once in your
life
I want us to do it, depending on andorra is a bit too tragic!
Yep
England had to depend on who winning? a bunch of teams who did
nothing at the Wc
And what do the Scottish know about world cups?
Quite a lot according to Arsene Wenger who said recently that
Scotland are very close to being a major world power (at
football).
yep, all we need is one more quality player to be playing at
the highest level
To be fair - England are only about 8 short.
Well, all i can say is....
OH f**k IT!!!
Good thing i'm not off to Euro anymore.
If McLaren was to go though, who would you all replace him with?
Theres not a lot to choose from? Especially if you're looking at
English born managers.
I thought before they appointed Mclaren that Big Sam would have
been their best option.
(though I'm secretly hoping they go for Berti Vogts!)
England have to get over their xenophobia when it comes to their
national manager.
Mourinho for the job imo.
Mourinho for the job imo.
I thought before they appointed Mclaren that Big Sam would have
been their best option.
Same here
(though I'm secretly hoping they go for Berti Vogts!)
He is a true legend to the English....
You wouldn't go far wrong with Fergusson
or Moyes theres nothing else in the premier league that hasn't
already been tried or isn't worth looking at ,go on you know im
right!!
You wouldn't go far wrong with Fergusson
or Moyes theres nothing else in the premier league that hasn't
already been tried or isn't worth looking at ,go on you know im
right!!
Given that Ferguson has stated, numerous times, that he would touch the Engl;and job in a month of sundays - very unlike.
I think he said something along the lines of 'I'd be letting myself down, my family down, my city down, my Country down - if I became England manager!'
You wouldn't go far wrong with Fergusson
or Moyes theres nothing else in the premier league that hasn't
already been tried or isn't worth looking at ,go on you know im
right!!
Given that Ferguson has stated, numerous times, that he would touch the Engl;and job in a month of sundays - very unlike.
I think he said something along the lines of 'I'd be letting myself down, my family down, my city down, my Country down - if I became England manager!'
Did he not say that when he left Aberdeen!!
You've got that Scotland feeling, ooohh that Scotland feeling - you
got that Scotland feeling - and your gone gone gone -
ohhhhhhhh.
I'm over the moon that England are out.
FINALLY there is going to be a tournament when people aren't going to go on about England winning it. I mean, it just gets frustrating. Everybody else always knows that England haven't got a chance.loyalgunner2007-11-22 15:38:41
ROFL.
Pure ROFL.
its pretty funny. but bad 4 the competition euro 2008 wudve been
better if england were in it.
its pretty funny. but bad 4 the competition euro 2008 wudve been
better if england were in it.
don't know about that, england couldn't even win at home,
against a team that supposedly had nothing to play for? Personally
I reckon that it will be a wake up call for the Pommie boys, and
certainly won't hurt the comp at all!!
theprof2007-11-22 17:31:11
If McLaren was to go though, who would you all replace him with?
Theres not a lot to choose from? Especially if you're looking at
English born managers.
when Sven left, I was hoping we'd get Hiddink, still my preference - but it won't happen
If i could stand either Mourinho or Scolari either would do , but they both piss me off
not sure about big Sam, he's got the passion but i don't think his style of football would be the step into reality that England need
so O'Neill - if he'd do it???
(or outside chance: Otto Rehagel -sp, who did so well with the greek team)
as colvinator suggests (in his inimitable style) the problem doesn't lie solely with the choice of manager - but a good one would surely help!
What a gloriuos day this has been. Not because we gave England a
footballing lesson, but because hopefully people will finally
realise that England are only a decent football side, nothing more
than that.
Bilic also showed McLaren what it means to be an international manager.
Bilic also showed McLaren what it means to be an international manager.
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Scott Carson insists he is not scared by the challenge of being England goalkeeper as he prepares for his competitive debut in tonight's crunch Euro 2008 qualifier with Croatia at Wembley.
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But the Liverpool keeper, currently on loan at Aston Villa, will relish rather than be fazed by the opportunity in a match in which England need to avoid defeat to reach the finals in Austria and Switzerland. Carson said: 'Does the threat of criticism scare you? Not really. You've got to take the good with the bad. 'It's all right everyone talking about you if you do really well but then everyone is going to have a bad game and you've then got to say `I've done that wrong', and you've got to be big enough to take the criticism.' Carson was pleased with his debut against Austria and delighted to rid himself of an unwanted record. He said: 'I had been getting banter off the lads saying I had the record for the most England squad call-ups without winning a cap. It was nice to get that cap. Now I can give the lads a little bit of banter back. 'I wasn't bothered I didn't have a lot to do (against Austria). I just wanted to get out and play and avoid controversy. I was just delighted to get my first cap.' Carson knows all about the qualities of Liverpool striker Peter Crouch and believes he will cause problems for Croatia in what is likely to be a 4-5-1 formation. He said: 'Anyone who gets picked against Croatia will do the job for England but I obviously know Peter from Liverpool and he is a great striker and a great target man. 'He has a great goalscoring record for England, one of the best there is, and hopefully he can carry it on.' Carson was impressed with the turnout of more than 4,000 England fans in Vienna and believes they will have a massive role to play at Wembley. He said: 'The fans are going to be very important when we need a positive result. Hopefully they will be right behind us. 'The England fan base is right up there with the best. Every away game they come out in their thousands and support the team well - like in Austria - and everyone in the squad is really grateful to them home and away.'Scott Carson - Yeah Right ! Just seen the easy goals he's
conceded on the Prime News.
If McLaren was to go though, who would you all replace him with?
Theres not a lot to choose from? Especially if you're looking at
English born managers.
when Sven left, I was hoping we'd get Hiddink, still my preference
- but it won't happenIf i could stand either Mourinho or Scolari
either would do , but they both piss me offnot sure about big Sam,
he's got the passion but i don't think his style of football would
be the step into reality that England needso O'Neill - if he'd do
it???(or outside chance: Otto Rehagel -sp, who did so well with the
greek team)as colvinator suggests (in his inimitable style) the
problem doesn't lie solely with the choice of manager - but a good
one would surely help!It's your players that are the main problem, not really the managers, although admittedly McLaren is completely useless.
Sven did as well as he could given what he had at his disposal.
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Carson said: 'Does the threat of criticism scare you? Not really. You've got to take the good with the bad.
'It's all right everyone talking about you if you do really well but then everyone is going to have a bad game and you've then got to say `I've done that wrong', and you've got to be big enough to take the criticism.'
Carson was pleased with his debut against Austria and delighted to rid himself of an unwanted record.
He said: 'I had been getting banter off the lads saying I had the record for the most England squad call-ups without winning a cap. It was nice to get that cap. Now I can give the lads a little bit of banter back.
'I wasn't bothered I didn't have a lot to do (against Austria). I just wanted to get out and play and avoid controversy. I was just delighted to get my first cap.'
Carson knows all about the qualities of Liverpool striker Peter Crouch and believes he will cause problems for Croatia in what is likely to be a 4-5-1 formation.
He said: 'Anyone who gets picked against Croatia will do the job for England but I obviously know Peter from Liverpool and he is a great striker and a great target man.
'He has a great goalscoring record for England, one of the best there is, and hopefully he can carry it on.'
Carson was impressed with the turnout of more than 4,000 England fans in Vienna and believes they will have a massive role to play at Wembley.
He said: 'The fans are going to be very important when we need a positive result. Hopefully they will be right behind us.
'The England fan base is right up there with the best. Every away game they come out in their thousands and support the team well - like in Austria - and everyone in the squad is really grateful to them home and away.'
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has seen at first hand the criticism that Paul Robinson - number
one throughout Steve McClaren's reign - has received after a series
of high-profile errors for club and country.
Carson said: 'Does the threat of criticism scare you? Not really. You've got to take the good with the bad.
'It's all right everyone talking about you if you do really well but then everyone is going to have a bad game and you've then got to say `I've done that wrong', and you've got to be big enough to take the criticism.'
Carson was pleased with his debut against Austria and delighted to rid himself of an unwanted record.
He said: 'I had been getting banter off the lads saying I had the record for the most England squad call-ups without winning a cap. It was nice to get that cap. Now I can give the lads a little bit of banter back.
'I wasn't bothered I didn't have a lot to do (against Austria). I just wanted to get out and play and avoid controversy. I was just delighted to get my first cap.'
Carson knows all about the qualities of Liverpool striker Peter Crouch and believes he will cause problems for Croatia in what is likely to be a 4-5-1 formation.
He said: 'Anyone who gets picked against Croatia will do the job for England but I obviously know Peter from Liverpool and he is a great striker and a great target man.
'He has a great goalscoring record for England, one of the best there is, and hopefully he can carry it on.'
Carson was impressed with the turnout of more than 4,000 England fans in Vienna and believes they will have a massive role to play at Wembley.
He said: 'The fans are going to be very important when we need a positive result. Hopefully they will be right behind us.
'The England fan base is right up there with the best. Every away game they come out in their thousands and support the team well - like in Austria - and everyone in the squad is really grateful to them home and away.'
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Scott Carson - Yeah Right ! Just seen the easy goals he's
conceded on the Prime News.
</TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>The comment about England fans is piss funny. For the last 20 minutes all you could hear was Hrvatska, Hrvatska.
It just got a bit harder for Croatia to win: Robinson to be dropped for
Carson
if you're thinking of going into the "predicting the goalies
performance" business, my advice would be: don't give up
your day job
Yess
At least Engerland didnt make it.
Im pleased.
Very Pleased.
Shame the scots arnt there tho but at least they made us
proud
dosent have to take much to make scotland proud then
It just got a bit harder for Croatia to win: Robinson to be dropped for
Carson
if you're thinking of going into the "predicting the goalies
performance" business, my advice would be: don't give up
your day job
Meh Robinson would have let in 6.
England sure are in need of a good keeper!
I think all England fans know that England are only a decent side at best. When they won in 66 it was a surprise (to everyone but Alf Ramsey) not unlike the surprise of the rugby team making the final this year. They were largely crap before that event and they've been largely crap since - (though not crap on a Scotish scale). (I'm still glad they won the World Cup in 66 - it's what made me want to support football)
In 1990 a few months after I migrated here I shouted forEngland against the All Whites at Mt Smart. All around me were going Kiwi Kiwi Kiwi Now I've got a NZ passport, not a UK one, I feel at home here, and if England were playing the All Whites I'd be going Kiwi Kiwi Kiwi Kiwi, too (or whatever chant the white noise intelligensia made up).and yea Arsenal -- if Mossy were English they would be heading
for Europe now.
(If he was the New Zealand goalie we'd be below Perth ,too -
or maybe not (counts fingers) maybe just a point
less)
As I mentioned in a previous post - this result is a good thing.
Qualification would only have led to disappointmet later on..a
quick execution must be more peferable than a lingering one?
For me the honchos at FA should resign for appointing McClaren in
the first place. After they have sacked him of course.
What is wrong with Beckham?: is the '100 club' so
important that he loses all dignity? That the English national
team were relying on a fella playing exhibition
matches here, really speaks volumes. Call it a day matey,
we won't think any worse of you (than we do already).
The thing is Beckham was one of England's best players
today!
My comments were less based on his performance and more directed on
his intent to stay.
Thank god work meant I couldn't see the game - sounds
turgid.
My comments were less based on his performance and more directed on
his intent to stay.
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Thank god work meant I couldn't see the game - sounds
turgid.
I saw it and thoroughly enjoyed it. Just a shame we didn't put away a couple of more.
Yeah well of course you would enjoy it and for good reason.
For the most of us though it was like taking 90 minutes to get
a plaster removed. In other words, extremely painful.