We have been lucky so far but I am still very impressed with the way the guys are playing. However, Marlon King has yet to have a shot on goal (believe it or not!) and as much as I admire Deano I feel he will be well held at this level. Caleb's impersonation of a Swiss Army Knife when running is still a source of mirth but if he could find someone to work with (and work off) then he could still be formidable. Unfortunately he doesn't at this stage.
Hull City thread
I have forecast a 2-0 win to Wigan.
whew OzT, the day you forecast a city win or even a draw is the day we'll probably lose - keep up the good work 
all 'mirth' aside - this time round my genetically inherited Yorkshire pessimism is starting to put pressure on my early season euphoria
Palacios looked very useful v chelsea, and their Egyptian? striker Ekru? has a decent pedigree by all acccounts
so all in all, i'd settle for a point to preserve our unbeaten start
then again, if there's a win on offer I'll be a very happy Tiger tomorrow 
apparently Ballane those first two crying faces were down to silly errors and the last might not have crossed the line
but the reality is that my teams in both hemispheres were tonked
i just hope that the Tigers and the nix sort themselves out in the international break and that the tigers sign a few players in quick time!!!
City had Gardner, Boateng and King out (the spine of the team) but surviving prem clubs can cover absences like that
right you bastards (in both hemispheres) come out fighting!! in two weeks time!
desperate i know ..... but at least i can take 1/2 a gram of comfort from the fact I don't support Macclesfield (that might change by the end of the season any Mac's fans out there)
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those poor buggers had to watch their lot ship 6 at home (they were only 1-0 down at half time so that last 45 might have been pretty nauseating)
nope, it didn't really work, i still feel like crap
off out for a bit of excercise, (not running in front of buses - just yet 
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)CMON U 'ULL!! - f**kin get it sorted
Our problem is that we have a wound that needs major surgery and stitches. Instead we have had to use the only option available - band-aids!
We have been lucky in our first two games and our big challenge has been failure to attract anyone of note to form a Premiership Side. Our Goalie and Captain are from our League 2 days. The rest are CCC players at best with the exception of Geovanni and Boateng. A couple have raised their game and are holding their own but we have yet to play a side that can be considered a 'force' in the Premier League (Fulham, a decimated Blackburn and Wigan could only be considered lower PL) so what is going to happen against the top four and teams with 'top-half' status.
The bubble has well and truly burst for us and it will get harder!
"We're doomed I tell ye, DOOMED"!
Mc Shane and Zayatte - soon to become household names!! 
from Hull Daily Mail
>> HULL City have signed Guinea international defender Kamil Zayatte on a season-long loan deal from Young Boys Berne.
The 23-year-old can play at centre-back or right-back, and in a holding midfield position, enjoying a training spell with both Everton and Newcastle earlier this month.
Because he is a signing from outside of England, City were able to add the 6ft 3ins stopper to their two other loan players of Marlon King and Sunderland defender Paul McShane who completed his season-long loan move on yesterday.
missed out on Frazier campbell 
got Danny Cousin from Rangers - not so promising in the longer term (he's 31) - and apparently blows a bit hot a cold, but hopefully he'll be strong enough and canny enough to score a few
from soccernet
overview of City's transfer dealings over off-season
>>>In: Anthony Gardner, George Boateng, Geovanni, Daniel Cousin, Marlon King (loan), Peter Halmosi, Craig Fagan, Bernard Mendy, Paul McShane (loan), Tony Warner, Kamil Zayette (loan)
Out: Stuart Elliott, Henrik Pedersen, David Livermore, Michael Bridges (loan), Frank Belt, Brewster Frizzell
Spent: �9.9M
Received: �0
It seems a clear-cut case of quantity rather than quality. That, however, is harsh on George Boateng and Anthony Gardner, who acquitted themselves respectably on their initial outings. However, with both injured, it is a damning indictment of the other newcomers that 10 survivors of the Championship team started against Wigan. A �7 million bid for Frazier Campbell was an indication of ambition or desperation - or both - but the window closed with Hull's prime target at White Hart Lane, even though Daniel Cousin became Hull's third record signing of the summer. <<
Out: Stuart Elliott, Henrik Pedersen, David Livermore, Michael Bridges (loan), Frank Belt, Brewster Frizzell
Spent: �9.9M
Received: �0
It seems a clear-cut case of quantity rather than quality. That, however, is harsh on George Boateng and Anthony Gardner, who acquitted themselves respectably on their initial outings. However, with both injured, it is a damning indictment of the other newcomers that 10 survivors of the Championship team started against Wigan. A �7 million bid for Frazier Campbell was an indication of ambition or desperation - or both - but the window closed with Hull's prime target at White Hart Lane, even though Daniel Cousin became Hull's third record signing of the summer. <<
what they don't acknowledge is that Zayette, Cousin and Mcshane hadn't signed in time for that game and King was 'loan-tied'
it does seem though that Halmosi hasn't set the house on fire and that Mendy might still be recovering from his efforts to single-handedly gift the pre-season win to Crewe
This serves to accentuate the fact that we are unable to attract 'quality' players because they either do not want to come or we cannot afford their wages.
This leaves us in a no-win situation.
The answer is a billionaire owner who can afford to buy the KC Stadium (and reap the benefits in gate receipts), expand it and make offers to 'quality' players that they cannot refuse.
A hard ask.
The point is though that we made it to the top flight but at this stage we are probably resigned to the fact that we do not have the financial infrastructure in place to keep us there.
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marlon king available,
and hopefully Boateng and Gardner back from injury
Cousin suspended following his sending off v Celtic, but we might hand a debut to Zayatte
i'll be happy with a point, three would be rather nice though 
Just make sure you play Barmby up front, in my football manager game he just scored 4 against Portsmouth for you guys!
We were looking at Peter Halmosi, he's not young but has a great turn of speed and control.
i can't see Barmby hitting 4 WillyB, but he does know where to be and where to put the ball for 65 of the 70 mins he's on the park
WillyB, but he does know where to be and where to put the ball for 65 of the 70 mins he's on the park
Halmosi seems not to have won over the coaching staff LG, he is still waiting for a chance to impress with Fagan/barmby/garcia winning the wide berths so far
That'll do for me 
Marlon King ( filling in for Barmby ) grabbed two
) grabbed twoLG - you were on the mark with your Halmosi comment, he was brought down for the pen for our first (not sure how he played in general)
another 3 points (how good does it feel to write that !!!!!!)
C'MON YOU 'ULL!
Great result Tigers......stoked for ya!!!
Well done.
But really " But Hull, who had to borrow white shorts from their opposition"
Bit rough when you cant afford to even supply a full kit for your lads.
But really " But Hull, who had to borrow white shorts from their opposition"
Bit rough when you cant afford to even supply a full kit for your lads.
Four games in and still in a European spot (Champions league no less). 1/4 of this competition is about confidence & form, and with those 2 ingredients going well for you I think i was right to pick Newcastle ahead of Hull in the relegation zone for this season. early days, but Ive got a feeling we'll be seeing you in the 2009/10 season.
Outstanding. Mind you I think my kids team could win at St James's at the moment.
Top result for the Tigers. 4th spot, awesome!
Good work Barmby! Steady steady, let King get a few goals. Thats good.
cheers for the positive vibes y'all
oi Toffeeman!, wake up lad, i realise the blue part of your heart will be a bit despondent but the stripey bit must be in good form!
yep, a bit embarrassing Ballane - even with the change of shorts they looked pretty similar on screen
hope you are right Uber!, I might even be able to nip into the bencher this arvo (the young un might be otherwise engaged), if so i'll check out what the other 3/4's is about
(on second thoughts , don't tell me - whilst i think we have a good manager, and sensible upper management our playing staff and financial backers might not withstand scrutiny - i'll just keep on living in blissfull ignorance )
)btw - LG , Halmosi also set up the second with a nice release from deep out to the right for King to cover 20 metres to the corner of the box and plant it in the far corner
Great result tigers. Love seeing hull doing well.
You got to play at St James at exactly the right time and made the most of it. Good on yas.
Come on! 4th place. Absolutely magic start to the tigers debut season in the big time
I'm loving you guys.. Awesome stuff fellas, i hope they can keep it up. Go easy on the scousers though hey
. I hope you can shock some of the other big guns though, like Arsenal or even better Man U. Go on my son!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WellArdGerrard2008-09-15 13:24:42
. I hope you can shock some of the other big guns though, like Arsenal or even better Man U. Go on my son!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WellArdGerrard2008-09-15 13:24:42
I feel sorry for Fagan, so far performing much better with Hull than he did with Derby and Danny Guthrie ruthlessly goes and brakes his leg, i mean where did that come from? never saw anything like that from him in his Bolton days, lost all resepect for him now..
yeah Cambw, it's a bit of blow for the lad and the club
i wasn't that impressd when i heard we'd re-signed him, but he's really done well - he's a niggly little bugger and he works hard, his finishing isn't that great but as he showed v Fulham no defender (even a Prem one) is immune from messing things up if they are harried,
he gives us a contrasting style to Halmosi/Garcia/Barmby out wide or Geovanni/Folan in the middle
im pretty impressed he got up after that challenge and had the will to have a go at guthrie..big fan of fagan!
guthrie, not so much. he must have spent some time with barton at the training ground.
Guthrie will only get 4 weeks probably but Fagan gets 3 months. Total injustice in my eyes. That was on of the worst tackles I seen in a long time.
Col U fans are sorry about the news re Fagan. We were fortunate to have him on loan a while back but couldnt afford to keep him! Hope he recovers. I see Guthrie has been honest and has apologised for the bad tackle which he admits was done in frustration...(no excuse though).
Guthrie only gets 3 weeks. Bl00dy criminal that is.
It'll be interesting to see if he has the balls to play in the return fixture at KC.
The prick should have got the same Fagan, 3 months on the sideline. I guess getting relegated with the Geordies is punishment enough.
Everton still have a few out - yobbo, hibbert , saha etc and possibly anichibe
we might give Cousin a start and Boateng might be back (reports vary on his progress)
shame it's not tonight, still it'll make it easier to get of bed on monaday a.m. - hopefully it'll be a reasonable start to the week
i'll do a deal with you right now Toffeeman - a point each (fine print - in both games)
Jeez bets on when Saha will finally debut...from his united days his injuries were so bloody frustrating
anyway good luck to Hull and once again I'm backing Barmby to score (now against his former club!)
anyway good luck to Hull and once again I'm backing Barmby to score (now against his former club!)
we've got Tottenham in a fortnight, he can score against them too!
First match against one of the big four this weekend (namely Arsenal), Im guessing your not too nervous about this game because its not a match you would budget to get points from, unlike Tottenham or Stoke for example.
bit of a shame our first live coverage is in a game that we'll struggle to get owt from
tigers2008-09-22 18:58:04
at least the blackburn game got us something on the tele
if we can do a stoke and lose the shot count something like 30 -2 but still walk away with a point shoved up our jumper I'll be delighted (and possibly in need of a very stiff drink at 6 am)
recording the EPL highlights, but by all accounts Cahill's was dodgy,
still, 8 points from 5 games will do me - CMON YOU 'ULL !!!!
just seen cahill's effort - perhaps ok - never mind as Brownie says to be dissapointed with only apoint from last season's 5th placed side shows a good attitude!
Unlucky there tigers,well played.
cheers G' Up, hopefully we'll learn from it
though as i said, I was ok with the idea of a point in the nervous hours before kick-off
i'm still sh*tting bricks about this season, i expect I'll relax if/when we are unsinkable
'til then it's a bit like picking up a fiver in a dark alley and hearing four huge drunken f**kers shout "OI PUT THAT DOWN YA LITTLE BUGGER!!"
your at the right end of the table, even if it is only early in the season you have a foot in the door rather than playing catch up
as you've mentioned, i liked the attitude after the game,Phil brown said your boys were upset at only getting a draw, that's the spirit that'll help too keep you in this league
as you've mentioned, i liked the attitude after the game,Phil brown said your boys were upset at only getting a draw, that's the spirit that'll help too keep you in this league