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Ok, We all know Steve McClaren is a twat and no good for England.  We all know he was Svens puppet successor with no imagintion. We all know is won't have the balls or nous to resign. So that leaves him being fired and who should replace him?
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Why, when a team loses do "we" automatically fire the manager? I'm sure McClaren had his faults but at the end of the day the players had a huge bearing on it too. Just personally I think England need some foreign influence, start playing not like England.

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Playing players out of position, ignoring their individual talents. McClaren was lost when Sven resigned. His true lack of abilities has been seen.
 
For all the talent that England has at it's disposal, the fans should not have to put up with inept performances. frankly, I don't think the players should be paid to play for their country. They should do it for the honour.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
For all the talent that England has at it's disposal, the fans should not have to put up with inept performances.


What talent? Rooney is the only class player England have. McLaren is a complete muppet, but the players he had at his disposal ain't world beaters.

Hopefully England's failure to qualify will make more people realise this. el grapadura2007-11-22 18:20:53
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Latest odds out of England:

Jose Mourinho 44

Unattached 7-2

The Special One's departure from Chelsea in September followed the breakdown of his relationship with the club's owner, Roman Abramovich, after he had established himself as the most successful manager in the club's history. Perhaps his most staggering success remains the Champions League won with Porto in 2004. Says he has a future in international management, albeit preferably with his native Portugal.

Martin O'Neill 55

Aston Villa 9-2

Heavily favoured by many in 2006 before Steve McClaren took the job. His reputation in England was cemented by his success at Leicester City, with whom he won two League Cups. Earned the nickname "Martin the Magnificent" during five glittering years at Celtic. His chairman at Aston Villa, Randy Lerner, has indicated he would not stand in his way should England come knocking.

Luiz Felipe Scolari 59

Portugal 6-1

His contract with Portugal expires after Euro 2008 but he may have burnt his bridges with the FA when officials flew to Lisbon hoping to secure his services last year. He won the World Cup with Brazil in 2002, knocking out England en route, and beat England on penalties with Portugal in 2004 and 2006. Has expressed concerns about the goldfish-bowl culture of managing England.

Guus Hiddink 61

Russia 8-1

The Dutchman took Holland (1998) and South Korea (2002) to fourth place in World Cup finals and Austalia into the second round last year. He won a treble with PSV Eindhoven, whom he also led to a Champions League semi-final in 2005, and has coached in Turkey with Fenerbahce and in Spain with Valencia, Real Madrid and Real Betis. Steering Russia, with whom he is potentially contracted until 2010, to Euro 2008 at England's expense will boost his standing.

Fabio Capello 61

Unattached 14-1

The Italian has been linked with several roles since leaving Real Madrid last summer and his availability would appeal to the FA. Has won league titles with Milan, Real Madrid, Roma and Juventus but yet to coach at international level.

Alan Shearer 37

Media pundit 20-1

Former England captain boasts no management experience but has taken his Uefa coaching badges and the FA may hope he would have a similar impact as Frank Rijkaard and Marco van Basten did with Holland.

Steve Coppell 52

Reading 25-1

Led Crystal Palace to the FA Cup final in 1990 and third in the top flight the following year. He has since performed something of a minor miracle at Reading but unlikely to relish the media glare and recent comments about the number of foreigners in the English game suggest he may have reservations about taking on the national team.

Mark Hughes 44

Blackburn Rovers 33-1

The Welshman would be an outsider but has impressed with Wales and, more recently, with Blackburn. Under him Rovers have reached two FA Cup semi-finals and qualified for the Uefa Cup.

Terry Venables 64

England assistant manager 40-1

The former Tottenham and Barcelona manager has publicly backed McClaren but would instinctively feel that he has unfinished business with the national side having relinquished the position after a successful Euro 96.


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theprof wrote:

Why, when a team loses do "we" automatically fire the manager? I'm sure McClaren had his faults but at the end of the day the players had a huge bearing on it too. Just personally I think England need some foreign influence, start playing not like England.

 
Its simple that useless twat mcClaren, who by the way has never won a thing in his life, picks the team. He kept picking robinson when time after time he made a complete cnut of himself.
then to pick an untried carson in such an important match when even calamity james would of been a better option. not to mention rob green who is head and shouldes above any england keeper. He also kept teaming up fatty and gerard, fatty shouldnt even be in there. arrgh!!!
 
It was obvious the minute he dropped beckham from the squad he would last five minutes.
 
summary
 
MAC WHAT A LOSER.
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Mourinho!
 
Good call - just because it would be fun.
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Someone not on this list

Frankie Mac.

'nuff said
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Roman Abramovich wouldn't let anyone get near his Hiddink. lol

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theprof wrote:

Why, when a team loses do "we" automatically fire the manager? I'm sure McClaren had his faults but at the end of the day the players had a huge bearing on it too

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Steve Mclaren has to take the majority of the blame for this shambles, replacing Robinson with Carson (debut competitive game) was a very bad mistake, and it showed in the first two goals ... and sure the players also have to shoulder some of the blame, but remember this is England we're talking about
 
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Just personally I think England need some foreign influence, start playing not like England.

 
You can't have England not play like England, especially when the majority play in the English leagues, where they are suited to the English style of play, have someone foreign coming in and changing the style would not work in my opinion, as the styles they are used to in league play would conflict when they play for their national team.  Although I could be wrong.
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Playing in the 'English' style hasn't exactly set the world on fire for the last 40 years has it?

It's time for change.
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You just can't change a certain style of play just like that and expect results straight away (which is what is required when you manage England lol) ... but I do agree with you

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France didn't qualify in 1994. In 1998 they won.

Sometimes good things can result from bad.
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That is true, they also won the Euro Champs as well, two years after that .. so hopefully we'll see England winning 2012 Euros as a start and then 2014 World Cup hehe
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Sam Allardyce.  Knows how to make something out of not much.  Would give the fancy pants players a roasting when they needed it.  Blood and thunder approach.  Fancy continental types never like it "up em". 
 
For the real rule of fear approach - Sir Alex Ferguson.
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That is true, they also won the Euro Champs as well, two years after that .. so hopefully we'll see England winning 2012 Euros as a start and then 2014 World Cup hehe


Well, I guess you can always dream...
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It has to be ian holloway that man is a footballing genious!!
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Allardyce was great at bolton but i havnt seen him blossom at newcastle yet. I know it's early days but i'm not sure he should manage England...
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Latest odds out of England:


Terry Venables 64

England assistant manager 40-1

The former Tottenham and Barcelona manager has publicly backed McClaren but would instinctively feel that he has unfinished business with the national side having relinquished the position after a successful Euro 96.


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BUSINESS would be the right word. The FA allowing him to be anywhere near the England set up is a disgrace! Yes I know this is the second time I've posted this but FFS ...every time I see any reference to the guy....^%^%&^&%&^    are the FA totally incapable??? 

[quote]Venables is also well known for his business interests, most notably with English clubs Tottenham Hotspur and Portsmouth. However,o n 14 January 1998 he was disqualified by the high court from acting as a company director for seven years under section 8 of the Company Directors Disqualification Act 1986 for mismanagement of four companies - the London drinking club Scribes West Ltd, Edenote plc, Tottenham Hotspur plc and Tottenham Hotspur Football and Athletic Company Ltd.[10] The case was brought by the Department of Trade and Industry who cited instances of bribery, lying, deception, manipulation of accounts and taking money that should have been given to creditors.[11]
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If Dario or Luigi don't want the job then give the job to Andy Wardle and be done with it!!


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ahhaha england winning in 2012 etc what a joke
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Na, Fabio Capello is doing it i think, he used to be with Real Madrid so he must be pretty good
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capello has won seria A with milan, juventus and roma, hes won la liga with real madrid. and the champions league with ac milan.

Capello or Mourinho are the 2 best options.
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Would the special one continue to play the Special ones on the field whom cant seem to play together. Eg: Fat Frank & Stevie G-string??
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yer aye , those two cant play together but on their own their heaps good, also  i think it might be mounrinho now, hes a fag but good manager
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O'neill has already distanced himself from the position, wise choice considering what managing England does to previously decent club managers.

Lonegunmen made a good point on his playing of "oil and water" (ie, they don't mix) but he did also finally put Gareth Barry in the middle (Am a Hammer but think Barry is a star) with Gerrard and they are an excellent partnership.

As for my choice of manager, am gonna be WAY out there and stand by Stuart Pearce - he managed to get Man City looking slightly more than average, on a shoestring and without the full board support...

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GI_Joe wrote:
As for my choice of manager, am gonna be WAY out there and stand by Stuart Pearce - he managed to get Man City looking slightly more than average, on a shoestring and without the full board support...


You do realise City only scored 10 goals at home in the Premiershipin Pearce's last season as the manager there? If that's slightly more than average, I'm Tom Brady (and I truly wish I was...).

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