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Solve the problem. Sack the Manager. Yeah Right!!

Ferguson did not deliver his first trophy to Old Trafford until his fifth season in charge. He and Wenger are the proof that stability and consistency is the basis of success at any club. Money is also essential. Curbishley kept Charlton up for his lengthy time there, and West Ham, until recently had only had about 6 managers in their history. In both cases though, lack of funds hindered further progress.

List of sacked managers this season (with my unbiased opinion) 

 Jose Mourinho

Chelsea

Worst decision in Football this season

Chris Hutchings

Wigan

 Lack of time allowed

Sammy Lee

Bolton

Perhaps thrown in at the deep end, or just a stopgap.

Martin Jol

Tottenham

Totally deserved. Millions spent over the years of  his reign and nothing achieved. The laughing stock of other clubs.

Steve Bruce

Birmingham

Did he walk or was he pushed. Would have spent better at Spurs. One for the future

Billy Davies

Derby

Second worse decision. He is going to be missed next year when they need to fight to gain promotion again. Look at Watford�s success this season as an example.

Lawrie Sanchez

Fulham

Not provided with the magic Nike wand. Neither was Coleman. The club deserves the relegation that awaits them.

Sam Allardyce

Newcastle

What do these guys want? 7 Managers that read like a who�s who in 10 years. Sam told them that it would take 3 years to build a team to challenge at the top, and management accepted that. The Northern Monkeys who call themselves fans didn�t, and then got shat on by Shearer who was going to be their saviour. Who would want that job.

So, Who is Left 

Alex Ferguson

Manchester Utd

There till he dies. And with that line up of stars they wouldn�t need to replace him for 5 years

Arsne Wenger

Arsenal

Doing it right. Moving will be his choice

Rafael Benitez

Liverpool

Jurgen Klinsmann waiting to take over. Another draw could be enough.

David Moyes

Everton

A club that gave the manager time and is now reaping the benefits

Martin O�Neill

Aston Villa

6th with a squad of 23. Should be given time, but will the owners be prepared to wait? One of the best.

Sven Ericksson

Man City

Built a team quicker than Ricki. He�s safe. They will have him well Thai�d up.

Mark Hughes

Blackburn

One of the up and coming Managers who will eventually succumb to offers, but not from Newcastle.

Harry Redknapp

Portsmouth

They love him, he loves them, never going to be world beaters, but �arry is 60 and semi retired in this job.

Alan Curbishley

West Ham

His job is to develop a Hammers team capable of challenging for top 4 by the end of next season. Then he will be replaced by someone to take them the next step.  

Steve Coppell

Reading

Doing well with limited resources since taking over from Pardew. Money may bring a change at the top.

Gareth Southgate

Middlesbrough

Living just above the relegation zone, but they did that with McClaren too.

Robbie Keane

Sunderland

Chewing gum doesn�t make you a Sir Alex. Time will tell how good the man is, but I think Sunderland will persist.

I haven�t commented on the 8 managers who have been appointed following sackings or where the sackies are likely to finish up.  You may wish to comment.

Perhaps Graeme Henry should hold seminars in England for Managers feeling the blade on their throat!!

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Excellent synopsis uiron.
I couldn't believe it when Fulham sacked Sanchez - they weren't even bottom 3, what more does a club of that size want?- and when Billy Davies went from Derby, a victim of his own success, that was shocking but when Allardyce went from Toon, it had that sadly too inevitable air to it. The problem is the enormous money at stake, everything has to be instant, and unfortunately that mindset has filtered down the leagues. Bury have just dumped Chris Casper, who in my book was doing a great job at a club fraught with difficulties. he'd had the job a bit longer, but still...
It really seems that the days of being given the time Sir Alex was early on at Old Trafford are well and truly gone. These days, if you don't get it right in 3 months, you are out on your ear.
 
(BTW Klinsmann won't be going to Anfield, he's picked up the Bayern Munich job)
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a great read UIron,

certainly seems to be a season made for the bookies

unless Newcastle play the Roeder clause again surely Shearer can't be top man as i don't think (but stand to be corrected) he would have his UEFA badge

agree Mark Hughes and O'Niell seem to be excellent managers


to be honest I thought Jol had done well lat season

of them all, it's Sanchez and Billy Davies who i feel most sorry for

Keane interests me, I imagine he'll do well - though his buys have been criticized (I struggle to believe my eyes and ears when he continues to come across as a rational human being after their losses )

West Ham ? - given your aspirations for their next manager ... I'm not so sure anyone less than God would take it on and survive (but all the best to you if they do surprise in the years to come, and /or get a billionaire backer)

once again, a class post imo
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Lonegunmen wrote:
Next up Liverpools manager!


Absolutely, he's on his way.
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I think Roy Keane suffers a bit from being a new manager, he hasn't really had a lot of time to build up enough contacts etc at that level (i.e management level) and so has had to by and large pick up players he has played with (Yorke, Cole, Richardson, McShane, Jonny Evans on loan) or players who have done well when playing Sunderland (Kenwyne Jones, Greg Halford, Paul McShane again). The only one who doesn't really fit into this category is Craig Gordon, but he would have seen plenty of him in his ill-fated spell with Celtic. 
He needs to realise that there is a wide range of players you can recruit, and sometimes it is neccessary to move away from the tried and trusted.
As for Benitez, I give him a month tops. Mourinho has expessed an interest in the job already.
Interesting too that Shearer has said he's already spoken to Newcastle and they don't want him. Gerard Houllier is the latest to get a mention. That would be a huge mistake I think.
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Arsenal wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
Next up Liverpools manager!


Absolutely, he's on his way.


we'll see, there aren't too many Champion's League winners currently available to replace him
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gerard houllier is back on the managerial market apparently, maybe he could make liverpool slightly less average
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I reckon Roy Keane is being slowly groomed for the Man United job once Fergusson dies aged 70 and still managing them. Lonegunmen2008-01-17 19:57:53
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Agree about Keane / United, I said that as soon as he got the Sunderland job. It'll be him or Mark Hughes I expect, that's probably why Sparky will stay at Blackburn and not move to anything bigger, he thinks the United job is just around the corner.
BTW, Ferguson already looks like he's on the way to the grave. The man has more burst blood vessels in his face than is surely healthy.
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fergie - the Keith Richard of football 
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The addiction is more scotch than heroin but your point is a good one.
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tigers wrote:

Keane interests me, I imagine he'll do well - though his buys have been criticized (I struggle to believe my eyes and ears when he continues to come across as a rational human being after their losses )



agreed, i thought someone would've been dead or close to it by now...maybe a changed man, or maybe he's smart and unleashes hell on them behind closed doors


i agree Hughes & O'Neill are top quality manangers and the future big players of the division, but i wouldn't write of Coppell...he's had very little $$$ to play with and i think given a decent bank budget he'd be right up there
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I'm never sure about Coppell, he certainly takes his work seriously (poor guy hardly ever looks happy - though that might be a function of Reading's recent results)

I seem to remember that he tossed coaching/managing away for a while

I suppose he could work with a right hand man who could lift the mood in the dressing room, for me he's closer in temperament to someone like Wenger than say Fergie or Steve Bruce who seem to have a (more obvious) sense of humour

i agree he's astute but and his players seem as 'loyal' as any but something seems missing in his attitude for him to be a truly great manager (though I'd be happy to be proved wrong)


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[QUOTE=tigers]
West Ham ? - given your aspirations for their next manager ... I'm not so sure anyone less than God would take it on and survive (but all the best to you if they do surprise in the years to come, and /or get a billionaire backer)

Good point Tigers. The fans jury is still out on Curbishley. Is he the guy to build a top 4 team or is he a manager who will only produce a mid table team.
 
Future. He is only 50 and has been managing at top level for 17 years. I think he is capable of making us a top 6 team and I think that is what the owners want by the end of next season. The replacement will need to do the rest. We will be in a better position to attract that type of manager to attract a couple of players that will fill our new 60,000 stadium in 2010
 
Billionaires?? We already have a couple. The Chairman is Icelands 2nd Billionaire. His son, who is on the board, was the first.
 
God?? Will Bobby Moore do?
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The bookies will be crawling all over Keegans reappointment at Newcastle, how long do we give him?
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tigers wrote:
I'm never sure about Coppell, he certainly takes his work seriously (poor guy hardly ever looks happy - though that might be a function of Reading's recent results)

I seem to remember that he tossed coaching/managing away for a while

I suppose he could work with a right hand man who could lift the mood in the dressing room, for me he's closer in temperament to someone like Wenger than say Fergie or Steve Bruce who seem to have a (more obvious) sense of humour

i agree he's astute but and his players seem as 'loyal' as any but something seems missing in his attitude for him to be a truly great manager (though I'd be happy to be proved wrong)


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nothing wrong with a serious chap who takes things seriously...he doesn't get paid to crack jokes. he seems to be friendly to the fans and as you said the players (except for $teve $idwell) seem loyal. foundations are there thats for sure.


[QUOTE=theprof]The bookies will be crawling all over Keegans reappointment at Newcastle, how long do we give him?


he'll be around come end of season...its about time something good happened to Newcastles poor poor fans
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