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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

True

But how relevant is the km travelled by each player when they get subbed?

Maybe another useful stat could be how many step overs were attempted.

ive often wondered the wisdom of putting that, and only that stat when a player is subbed.

but yes the espn picture is truly dreadful, but it's a picture nonetheless

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

ubergunner explained espn's issues once

something about the picture type being specifically for american television, and that it is run through some sort of conversion system to make it compatible for the ESPN Pacific Rim channel (what we get) - this is what causes the sh*te picture. In the US it's apparently perfect.

HOWEVER that doesn't explain the sh*t commentators, sh*t comments man, sh*t stats, sh*t decisions on what to show (shakhtar v roma over arse v barca for the ESPN Pacific Rim feed? honestly), sh*t everything basically.

When i was streaming on wednesday i stumbled across the odd UK feed and they were top quality

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I'm fairly certain it's because Nth America use NTSC tvs whereas we have PAL tvs and they operate on different refresh rates (60hz for NTSC compared with 50hz for PAL I think) and they have to convert the 60hz to run on 50hz screens so that's why fast moving objects, like the ball when it's shot/given a firm pass tends to blur out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC#Lines_and_refresh_rate this seems to be saying the same as me, so hopefully that means I have my facts right...
GenericFan2011-03-11 12:36:54

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeh jsut converting between NTSC and PAL a bit too much.

You Spurs seen this...

Gareth Bail Inter Milan Animated

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Very nice.

With the retro strip as well it could be a re-release of A-Ha's "take on me"

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

That clip is also posted on DML.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

According to a tweet from Andrew Mulligan we are going to be getting ESPN HD from 1 June.

Shame the champions league final is on 28 May.

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

According to a tweet from Andrew Mulligan we will be getting ESPN HD from 1 June. Pity the Champions League final is on 28 May.

If you have a satelitte box you can pick up the champions league on SBS Australia with a far better picture than ESPN. They sometimes play different games too.

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Champion's League Q/F draw tonight- exciting times for us spurs! I think realistically most team will be wanting us or Schalke (or Shaktar, but I don't think the Ukraine is too accomodating at this time of year!!). Schalke would probably be our easiest draw on paper, but may not be the best one for us - we tend to up our game against bigger clubs (no disrespect to Schalke) so may fare better against one of those. That said, tin hats at the ready if we draw Barcelona...

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Bring on Barca.

To Dare Is To Do*

PS - cool subbuteo figure DW. Didn't realise that they were still in existence and updated the shirts so quickly.

*Except if it is against ManU

Junior822011-03-18 15:09:20

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

We got the other Spanish side - Real Madrid.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

And when we win that, Barca in the semi.

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Champions League draw - Quarter-finals
Real Madrid (Spain)     v      Tottenham Hotspur (England)
Chelsea (England)     v      Manchester United (England)
Barcelona (Spain)     v      Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)
Inter Milan (Italy)     v      Schalke 04 (Germany)

Champions League draw - Semi-finals
Inter/Schalke     v      Chelsea/Man Utd
Real Madrid/Tottenham     v      Barcelona/Shakhtar

Looks like a Spurs - Chelski final!

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

yes, yes it does

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Alas, a real anti-climax to face Chelski or Utd in the final after toppling the two Spanish mobs

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

paulm wrote:

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Agree in general, but have to say that I think Robbie Mustoe is one the best comments men on any channel.

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

paulm wrote:

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Agree in general, but have to say that I think Robbie Mustoe is one the best comments men on any channel.

I agree, but if you kept showing only the big clubs playing then others would be complaining about that.
One of the pluses in Oz is that whatever ESPN is showing, SBS shows the other game. So the Arsenal game was live. Perhaps you guys should get on to TV3?

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Nice one 'Arry!

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

HarryHotspur wrote:

Alas, a real anti-climax to face Chelski or Utd in the final after toppling the two Spanish mobs

Another perspective

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

HarryHotspur wrote:

Alas, a real anti-climax to face Chelski or Utd in the final after toppling the two Spanish mobs

Another perspective

Arsene showing his true colours there!

By a pure coincidence it had the recipe for last nights dinner on that page also

(a shame we dont have foxes over here, much tastier.)

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wouldn't have thought there'd be much meat on a fox. Particularly after the hounds had had a go at it.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Green - needed more of your SA heroics today

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

You tell 'em 'Arry: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/896708/tottenham-boss-harry-redknapp-slams-critics?cc=3436

"I don't go to sleep worrying about it, thinking 'I've got to get in the Champions League because Tottenham are always in it every year!' Yeah, Tottenham always used to finish above Man United, Chelsea and Liverpool ... they get in every year. I have come here and f***ed up their team!'

Love it!

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Apr 2      Wigan Athletic (DW Stadium)
Apr 5      Real Madrid (Santiago Bernabï¿½u)      UCL
Apr 9      Stoke City     (WHL)
Apr 13      Real Madrid     (WHL) UCL
Apr 17      Postponed     Manchester City     (Titty of Manchester Stadium)
Apr 20      Wenger Boys     (WHL)
Apr 23      West Bromwich Albion (WHL)
Apr 30      Chelsea     (Prawn cocktail stadium)
May 7      Blackpool (WHL)
May 15      Liverpool (Scouseland)
May 22      Birmingham     (WHL)

Not a bad run in - crucial games against City, Gooners, Chelski and Blackpool, plus the semi-finals and finals of UCL to squeeze in as well.
Junior822011-03-21 21:57:46

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Green - needed more of your SA heroics today

Yeah, you know it's not your day when the Man of the Match discussions centre entirely on Rob Green or Wayne Bridge!

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Still have a small chance of top 4 - really depends on how much City and Chelski slump. I personally think that Chelski have a better run in than us and think we will hold on for 5th beating off the red scousers.

Spooky on DML sums it up though: 7 pts from the last 5 games!

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yep, agreed I think it's between us & ManC for 4th, though we'll have to buck our ideas up and go on another epic run like last season to get it!! The good (and bad!) thing is that we still have to play most teams around us - ManC away will be especially big if we can win our easy game in hand against that lot down the road...

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Spooky on DML sums it up though: 7 pts from the last 5 games!

That's right, loss to Blackpool and draws with Wolves and West Ham, of which Wolves and West Ham have spent most of the season in the bottom 3 and Blackpool are only 1 point off it now.

Quite concerned with next season if we don't make the top 4, VDV and Modric will almost certainly leave and we won't be able to get that striker we've been after for some time.

I heard someone on the Chappers Podcast this week, saying if you can't make the Top 4, you;re better off finishing 8th, then you don't have the hassle of the Europa League, in which you play around 18 games if you make the final and play in all kinds of small, backwater countries in Europe.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Have faith brothers.

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Dougie Rydal wrote:

I heard someone on the Chappers Podcast this week, saying if you can't make the Top 4, you;re better off finishing 8th, then you don't have the hassle of the Europa League, in which you play around 18 games if you make the final and play in all kinds of small, backwater countries in Europe.

Won't be a problem - we didn't go too well in the last Europa a couple of seasons ago.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Dougie Rydal wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

Spooky on DML sums it up though: 7 pts from the last 5 games!

I heard someone on the Chappers Podcast this week, saying if you can't make the Top 4, you;re better off finishing 8th, then you don't have the hassle of the Europa League

so true

can uefa punish you if you put out a clearly 2nd string side?

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The English FA clearly doesn't!

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

The English FA clearly doesn't!

actually they do, hence my question

A team was fined last year - without researching i think it was wolves? 10 changes for a game against manU or something

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wolves were fined last year for making a bunch of changes for a midweek game against United.

Blackpool did the same this year, with Ian Holloway saying if they fined him he would quit. They did fine him, and he offered his resignation. The chairman of Blackpool turned it down though.

Not wrong though, the Europa League must be a right pain in the arse to play in.

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Europa league is still European football though, if your a team hoping to break into the champions league like spurs and man city then surely playing in the Europa league is ideal preparation. getting the squad used to mid week games and traveling around Europe and what not. And at the end of the day its still a trophy and no team would turn their nose up at that. Downey262011-03-25 09:31:35

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

paulm wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

The English FA clearly doesn't!

actually they do, hence my question

A team was fined last year - without researching i think it was wolves? 10 changes for a game against manU or something

Nice half nibble at my line Paulm!

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Downey26 wrote:

Yeah mate but if you are in Spurs position at the moment, pushing hard for an ECL spot, with a squad which I'm sure Harry would admit is not quite at the level of the other top teams in England, you want to be focussing everything on getting that top 4 place.

And if instead you are having to go and focus on playing some sh*tty little team in Moldova or Macedonia or something mid week, before a big EPL match, I can see how that would be a giant pain in the arse.

Sure once you get to the quarters or semis you could take it seriously and try and win it, but with all the faffing about and so many matches before you get there, I'm not sure it's completely worth it.

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Consistency is what we lack.

In terms of top 4, only ManU is our bogey team. All the others (+ Perennial Strugglers Liverpool) are ones we can beat on the day.

Big problem this season is that we don't turn up for the games against the struggling teams.

I would be happy with Europa if we didn't make UCL next season. Actually, scratch that - we're going to win UCL this season so it doesn't matter.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Consistency is what we lack.

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In terms of top 4, only ManU is our bogey team.ï¿½ All the others (+ Perennial Strugglers Liverpool) are ones we can beat on the day.

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Big problem this season is that we don't turn up for the games against the struggling teams.

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I would be happy with Europa if we didn't make UCL next season. Actually, scratch that - we're going to win UCL this season so it doesn't matter.

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Just make sure you guys turn up on the 20th April

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Paulinho wrote:

Downey26 wrote:

though if you have a squad you want to compete in the champions league you should be able to rotate and rest and easily account for most teams until you reach the quarters.

but yes i see what you mean