Yellow Fever English Football picks 2020/21

Alrighty, who's keen to go again?

Although no fixtures have been released yet, they have announced that the first fixtures are expected to be played on Sept 12, so I thought I better kick the thread off.

Ronniemac and I have been in discussion and I have a new and simpler format to propose!;

For each game we pick, you pick the winner, and a margin of either 1 goal, or 2+ goals. Or you can pick a draw with no margin.

If you pick the correct winner, 5 points. If you pick the correct winner AND the correct margin, 8 points. 

The thing ronniemac and I were debating is the points awarded for a draw. I suggested 8, ronniemac suggested 5. He thought if it was 8, then people will sit on the fence all the time and pick the draw. I thought if it was 5, then no one would want to pick a draw. Keen to get feedback on that?

In addition, you would pick ONE player for each game for your predicted man of the match, and if you get it, 10 points. 

So it would be a simpler process. For example,your picks would look something like this;

Arsenal v Spurs: Arsenal 2+, Aubameyang

Liverpool v Everton: Liverpool 1, van Dijk

ManU v ManC: Draw, Pogba

Chelsea v West ham: Chelsea 2+, Giroud

So if people could first post and register their interest, and advise the team that they support, that is the starting point.

Then give some feedback on this proposed system, including how many points you think the draw should be, and also any other ideas/criticism you have.

Additional notes:

- Please don't decide not to play in fear of dropping out later. I'd rather you gave it a crack and then dropped out than just not play at all. I will never be critical of that, I just want to encourage participation

- I will do the preseason predictions as well like normal, that's always a bit of fun

- I reckon we will probably do the "everyone pay the winner $10 each" thing again, as a wee bit of an incentive, unless there is a consensus that we don't want to, I'm easy either way

- I may run the team comp alongside again, but it will depend on the entries i.e. we really need 2 or more players for each team supported to make that work, so will see how it plays out

I'm keen to give another season a crack.....Arsenal.

I'm in for more punishment.... Arsenal

As for the scoring, I'm kinda between both of you. What if it was 8 points for result+margin and 6 points for correctly calling a draw?

Thanks guys, that's 4 entries thus far, meaning it will go ahead! That's a start. 

Definitely merit to that suggestion kwlap. I might go democratic on this points-for-the-draw thing now.

So we've got 3 opinions so far:

Draw = 8 points - 1 vote

Draw = 5 points - 1 vote

Draw = 6 points - 1 vote

I'll see how other opinions come in...

I'm in, Arsenal. 

As for scoring, I'm leaning towards the same 8 points for the draw on the basis that the correct result and margin is still the correct result and margin when the margin is 0.

I'm in, Liverpool.

6 point for a draw 

Ok, 6 entries so far, and the voting for draw points stands at;

Draw = 8 points - 2 votes

Draw = 5 points - 1 vote

Draw = 6 points - 2 votes

It's actually scary how quickly this is upon us. 

The community shield game is next week!!!!

So we're looking at Sept 12 for the first match in our first round of games, that's 23 days away.

So far we have 6 entries. Even if we get no more, we will play!!!!

I might set the end of September as the cut-off for pre-season picks, which gives me a wee bit more time to post them up. 

We have a tie in our voting between the draw being 8 or 6 points. 

I'll give it one more week, then see what the deal is. Being the organiser I might just get dictatorial if it's a tie ;)

Alrighty lads, we have 6 locked in for this season and not much noise around anyone else... the number of players directly corresponds with the amount of effort so it will be a smoother ride for me this season ;)

To confirm, we only have Arsenal and Liverpool fans involved at this point. So unless there's any further entries before Sept 12, we'll just be picking Arsenal and Liverpool games.

If there are no more votes on the points for the draw then I'm going to use my additional privelege vote as organiser to break the deadlock, and we'll go with 8 points for correctly picking the draw.

Season starts 2 weeks from tomorrow. I will post up the first few rounds of fixtures in the next week, and also the list of pre-season picks to make. Pre-season picks deadline will be September 30.

I'll give it ago... Wolves

I think 8 points is fair for a draw since you are technically picking the margin as 0 and getting it correct.

im keen again  Chelsea

Alrighty, we've had a wee boost then. We've got 8 players covering 4 different teams (Arsenal, Liverpool, Wolves, Chelsea). 

So the comp is fattening out a bit, nice. 

Will post the pre-season predictions soon, and the first few rounds for picking.

I'm in, Chelsea

Alrighty, 9, players representing 4 teams. LETS GO with Round 1!

So now we have our new system, where you pick your winner, and a margin of either 1, or 2+. Or you can pick a draw. And for each game, pick your MOM for OUR teams (Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Wolves). This will be awarded to the highest rating individual for our team in the game on whoscored.com. 

Hope that makes sense, let me know if any questions or clarifications. 

So for Round 1, please make picks as per the following;

Arsenal v Fulham

Liverpool v Leeds

Brighton v Chelsea

Sheffield v Wolves

Here's my Round 1 picks as an example:

Arsenal 2+, Aubameyang

Liverpool 1, Mane

Draw, Pulisic

Draw, Jimenez

Arsenal 2+ v Fulham - Saka

Liverpool 2+ v Leeds - Salah

Brighton v Chelsea 2+ - Werner

Sheffield v Wolves 1+ - Jota

Arsenal 1 vs Fulham - Aubameyang

Liverpool 2+ vs Leeds - Salah

Chelsea 1 vs Brighton - Mount

Wolves 1 vs Sheffield Utd - Neves

Arsenal 2+ vs Fulham - Aubameyang

Liverpool 2+ vs Leeds - Salah

Chelsea 2+ vs Brighton - Werner

Wolves 1 vs Sheffield Utd - Traore

Ronniemac's daughter is gonna get amongst it, bringing total number of players to 10;

Paulm – arsenal

Theprof – arsenal

Kwlap – arsenal

Ajc28 - arsenal

LeighboNZ – liverpool

Ronniemac – liverpool

Azzamac - liverpool

Wolverhampton Phoenix – wolves

Detoxin – chelsea

Jazzy jeff – chelsea

7 returnees, 3 new players. Nice!

Arsenal 1 - Aubameyang

Liverpool 2+ - Mane

Chelsea 2+ - Werner

Draw - Jimenez

Liverpool 2+ Robertson

Arsenal +1 Laccazete

Chelsea 2+ Werner

Wolves +1 The big muscles guy

gunners 2+ v fulham - Auba

Liverpool 2+ v leeds Salah

Brighton v chelski 2+ - Mount

Sheffield vs Wolves 1 - neves

I'm in!

Here's my season predictions too.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/premier-league-41512...

Arsenal +2 Aubamayang

Liverpool +1 Van Dyk

Chelsea +2 Werner

Wolves +1 Neves

Heya, I ended up being on the road for three days between Wellington and Hamilton for work and completely missed the first round

Hey Leighbo, we'll do the "lowest score minus 5 points" thing for 2 rounds as the leeway for the occasional forget.

Alternatively, you could make your picks for the final two games tomorrow, and perhaps salvage something...

Up to you?

Also, PROAK, competition entry noted, will add you in!

That is a pretty pathetic excuse.:)

The final Round 1 games get played tomorrow. 

Just to get ahead, these are the next rounds for picking:

ROUND 2:

Sept 20:

Arsenal vs West ham

Sept 21:

Chelsea vs Liverpool

Sept 22:

Wolves vs Man City

ROUND 3:

Sept 27:

WBA vs Chelsea

Sept 28:

West ham vs Wolves

Sept 29:

Liverpool vs Arsenal

Unfortunately the fixtures are not confirmed any further than that, so will put up the next lot when they do get confirmed.

Give me a break! I had to go to Hamilton FFS - yuck. 

ROUND 2:

Arsenal vs West ham - Arsenal +2    Auba

Chelsea vs Liverpool - draw    Werner, TAA

Wolves vs Man City - City +1 Neves

ROUND 3:

WBA vs Chelsea - Chelsea +2 Mount

West ham vs Wolves - Wolves +1 Neves

Liverpool vs Arsenal - Liverpool +1 Salah

Arsenal 2+ - Lacazette

Chelsea 1 - Kante

Wolves 1 - Jimenez

I'll post my round 3 picks after these games get played

Arsenal 2+ - Lacazette

Chelsea 1 - Kante, Salah

Wolves 1 - Jimenez

I'll post my round 3 picks after these games get played

Arsenal vs West ham - Arsenal +2 Auba

Chelsea vs Liverpool - draw     Salah

Wolves vs Man City - City +1 Traore

Arsenal vs West ham - Arsenal +2 Willian

Chelsea vs Liverpool - Liverpool +1 , Salah

Wolves vs Man City - City +2 traore

Wolves -2

Jiminez

Liverpool +1

Van Dijk

Chelsea -1

Kante 

Arsenal +2

Tierney

Alrighty, just getting used to this new spreadsheet (thanks again Ronniemac!). 

Round 1 Results:

Round 1 Standings:

Couple of things. 

Due to simplifying the points and making it easier for me to score this season, I am dropping double points derbies. 

AND, when two of our teams play eachother, for example Chelsea v Liverpool this weekend, you should only select ONE man of the match. You can select from either team. 

Can those who have already selected two, please edit your post and delete one of them? That's leighbo, detoxin, kwlap and azzamac... if you dont make it in to do this, I will flip a coin on your behalf...

Where do we do our season predictions?

I havent got em up for you yet! Hold fire, wont be long

PRESEASON PREDICTIONS:

Please state your picks for the following, by midnight Oct 6 (closure of transfer window);

Top 6 in finishing order

Bottom 3 in any order

Arsenal top scorer

Arsenal top assister

Liverpool top scorer 

Liverpool top assister

Chelsea top scorer

Chelsea top assister

Wolves top scorer 

Wolves top assister

Premier League Golden Boot winner

Premier League Golden Gloves winner