Group A: New Zealand | Norway | Philippines | Switzerland

Absolute garbage from the coach. Never chased the game and just made like for like subs. Needed a win and kept 4 at the back with an isolated striker! criminal! she was point collecting to achieve a KPI. 

can someone tell me how Jale gets on the pitch before Satchell or Clegg??? Jale is not a footballer. picked on physical attributes. Rennie? come on. The sub choices were crap. 

we relied on late set pieces. Cannot believe we haven't thrown numbers forward and been more aggressive. fuming.

don't deserve it anyway we cant be losing to the phillipines they've just been smashed 5-0 by the team we beat.

Klimkova out.

Showtime Nixie

Absolute garbage from the coach. Never chased the game and just made like for like subs. Needed a win and kept 4 at the back with an isolated striker! criminal! she was point collecting to achieve a KPI. 

can someone tell me how Jale gets on the pitch before Satchell or Clegg??? Jale is not a footballer. picked on physical attributes. Rennie? come on. The sub choices were crap. 

we relied on late set pieces. Cannot believe we haven't thrown numbers forward and been more aggressive. fuming.

don't deserve it anyway we cant be losing to the phillipines they've just been smashed 5-0 by the team we beat.

Klimkova out.

I agree our forwards are terrible, fast yes, but not proven goal scorers, why do we continue to receuit speed over proven goal scoring ability, our sub bench also provided nothing in this area… just disappointing. Please NZ Football change your recruiting… we are going nowhere

Wonder if some of the older players will now retire mow that they have done a World Cup on home soil….

It would have helped the New Zealand cause if the New Zealanders actually passed the ball to other New Zealanders and not given it almost always to a Swiss player. The Kiwi ability to NOT trap a ball came to the fore. 

Wilkinson, she reminded me of a Lamppost. Stood on the same spot, did nothing and hoped for a free header. Her ball control was pathetic and like 10 others out there, she too was guilty of giving the ball away. 

Klink-Over offered not tactical changes or nouse throughout the game - hoping for the longball to Wilkinson to score with her head. When the far too late changes came, the game plan was still the same. Dumb. other players have been criticised in responses before mine and frankly speaking, they are justified. This team managed to scrape a Draw from the jaws of Victory, just like they grabbed a Loss from the Jaws of Victory with the Philippines.

The surprise upset of beating Norway really got thia country onside and gave hope. But then they reverted to their pre tournament form and got found out. Sad but true. Lessons learned? I think not. Some of the established players need to take a long hard look in the mirror. Came the time to stand up and be counted, they were sadly missing. Time for Klink-Over to brush them out and rebuild a new squad and team. plenty of younger players itching to have a go.

With her bullet proof 6 year contract she will probably just sit back and wheel out the same players and sole tactic yet again.

So we should see finally a change in players happening, its been the old guard for too long and I think we do have some good new players ready to step up. 
I am guessing we will see the last of Riley, Hassett, Percival and maybe Wilkinson. Then other possibles to call it quits might be Longo and Stott. So lots of spaces up for grabs in the next couple of years. Its going to be an interesting squad for the next Olympics and will be interesting to see who the coach will be.

We pissed around with it for 468 passes. 
We created 3 shots,which were all as weak as gnats.
The objective is to score,and we had to score tonight. And we were atrocious at it.
That ain't a success in my book.
The tournament may be a success, our part in it was underwhelming. 

Just watched the game on the BBC after flying back from NZ and the presenters were bang on: 

"The Ferns are just not that good".

We fluked that win in Auckland (am so glad I was there, what a game). But were poor in our other two games.

Jitka has to go. 

No way should players like Chance be starting and as the BBC commentators picked up: ..."the kiwi girls did not look like they had any sort of game plan except try and keep the ball out of their own net".  
That really does sum up this dismal game in Dunners today. Passing to nowhere, multiple unforced errors. 

I was at the Norway Switzerland game in Hamilton and didn't think either side showed much there too. That game like today's was dead boring. Can't see Norway or Switzerland going much further either.

Only highlight for me today was seeing Esson showing our attacking players how to attack!!!

Shame. Bottled it here and in Dunedin. Regardless, they should be proud of themselves, 4 points is nothing to shoot down. Just a shame Wilkinson managed to play as many minutes as she did. Not watched any of the women’s game before this WC, but I don’t get how she starts this game. Her performance in wellington was abysmal, and tonight was a continuation of it. Positives, this team should inspire a whole new generation, hopefully they get the coaching to succeed! And well done to the Dunedin crowd, that sounded epic on tv! 

I'm over our czech coach and yank captain talking nonsense pre and post game. In their own little bubble.

Longo been a great servant but times up but i think she knows that shes smart. Wilkinson..take her WC moment and run i reckon...doesnt have the legs for it anymore. Riley sends more time rolling up her shorts...long way to travel for that. I can see Percival hanging around if her body allows. Hassett has been an asset for many years and i feel like maybe shes need to help the young ones through in some capacity.  Bowen i thought was well off the pace in recent years but had a great game tonight so she may hang around.

All coaching staff out....about 17 of them on the bench clueless. Too busy looking at ipads. Probably playing PAC-MAN.

The occasion won us the first game but ok fair play worked hard too although the football was rubbish in quality but we were terrible from that result.

We simply don't have the players to win games apart from one every blue moon. COACH has to go. We can't be watching that for another 4,5,6 years whatever shes got.

Hand player of tournament for me. Followed by Bowen.

Fenix

We pissed around with it for 468 passes. 
We created 3 shots,which were all as weak as gnats.
The objective is to score,and we had to score tonight. And we were atrocious at it.
That ain't a success in my book.
The tournament may be a success, our part in it was underwhelming. 

The Beeb presenters were asking what we were doing as hosts. No sign of any effort to win a game we had win from the moment we played poorly against the Philippines. The Ferns deserved a booing, it's a pity us kiwis are too polite to do that. Great game from Bowen tonight, player of the match.

Hopefully that was the last game for Jitka and a few of the 100+ cap players. Hand (a good WC in my eyes), Esson (ignoring her poor game against the Philippines), and a couple of the other young ladies are our future.

Showtime Nixie

I'm over our czech coach and yank captain talking nonsense pre and post game. In their own little bubble.

Longo been a great servant but times up but i think she knows that shes smart. Wilkinson..take her WC moment and run i reckon...doesnt have the legs for it anymore. Riley sends more time rolling up her shorts...long way to travel for that. I can see Percival hanging around if her body allows. Hassett has been an asset for many years and i feel like maybe shes need to help the young ones through in some capacity.  Bowen i thought was well off the pace in recent years but had a great game tonight so she may hang around.

All coaching staff out....about 17 of them on the bench clueless. Too busy looking at ipads. Probably playing PAC-MAN.

The occasion won us the first game but ok fair play worked hard too although the football was rubbish in quality but we were terrible from that result.

We simply don't have the players to win games apart from one every blue moon. COACH has to go. We can't be watching that for another 4,5,6 years whatever shes got.

Hand player of tournament for me. Followed by Bowen.

What did Hand do in that game apart from hit the post? The front players were all terrible 

Feverish

Showtime Nixie

I'm over our czech coach and yank captain talking nonsense pre and post game. In their own little bubble.

Longo been a great servant but times up but i think she knows that shes smart. Wilkinson..take her WC moment and run i reckon...doesnt have the legs for it anymore. Riley sends more time rolling up her shorts...long way to travel for that. I can see Percival hanging around if her body allows. Hassett has been an asset for many years and i feel like maybe shes need to help the young ones through in some capacity.  Bowen i thought was well off the pace in recent years but had a great game tonight so she may hang around.

All coaching staff out....about 17 of them on the bench clueless. Too busy looking at ipads. Probably playing PAC-MAN.

The occasion won us the first game but ok fair play worked hard too although the football was rubbish in quality but we were terrible from that result.

We simply don't have the players to win games apart from one every blue moon. COACH has to go. We can't be watching that for another 4,5,6 years whatever shes got.

Hand player of tournament for me. Followed by Bowen.

What did Hand do in that game apart from hit the post? The front players were all terrible 

True this was her worst game of the WC but she came closer with that play then anyone else on the park.  She was good in Wellington and Auckland and will only get better, unlike a number of the 100+ club who have hopefully played their last Ferns games.

NZ football have already realised that we don’t have amazing attacking options- look at the u17 and u20 teams, lots of attacking players selected in their squads. Norway game we had nothing to loose, so played without fear. Too much pressure in the second game, hard for Vic to stop the goal from such close range. But it only took one chance. Tonight our centre mids hardly got on the ball it was all too one dimensional down the sides. Percival, Longo and Chance I am sure are not even 90% fit before the games. Didn’t step up, and neither did Hassett. Hand and Esson also had their knees strapped up before the game. Bowen is our best leader. Riley is a bit of a lame duck captain-played out of position for years as we didn’t have a left footed fullback. Almost all her delivery is cut back onto her right foot and floated crosses are not going to get us goals. Hand was our player of the tournament. Then Bowen. We didn’t have that same energy level in the second or third match in midfield and were too slow to close them down and put them under pressure. I don’t know how we ended up with IP Riley in centre mid at the end with Hassett and Steinmetz. Satchell or Clegg would have been my pick over Rennie at the end. Oh well, hindsight is always 20/20. Hopefully Klimkova learns from this and is kept on to make the changes she has learned from. Otherwise we start again. But I would expect about 8 to retire after this tournament. Time for some new blood to gain some experience. Clegg, Whinham, Leat, Taylor, Wisnewski. Plus those who are coming through with the age group teams and the likes of Steinmetz, Hand, Bott, Bowen who now have some good experience. Women’s Football is on the up and not getting out of our group won’t stop that. But that win against Norway has hopefully opened the eyes to how much potential their is and we have loads more fans of the Beautiful Game. My picks for the rest of the Tournament- Spain to win it all, Germany 2nd, Nigeria 3rd and USA 4th 😮

If we had Erceg, then Philippines wouldn’t have scored and we would have been through….?

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NZ football have already realised that we don’t have amazing attacking options- look at the u17 and u20 teams, lots of attacking players selected in their squads. Norway game we had nothing to loose, so played without fear. Too much pressure in the second game, hard for Vic to stop the goal from such close range. But it only took one chance. Tonight our centre mids hardly got on the ball it was all too one dimensional down the sides. Percival, Longo and Chance I am sure are not even 90% fit before the games. Didn’t step up, and neither did Hassett. Hand and Esson also had their knees strapped up before the game. Bowen is our best leader. Riley is a bit of a lame duck captain-played out of position for years as we didn’t have a left footed fullback. Almost all her delivery is cut back onto her right foot and floated crosses are not going to get us goals. Hand was our player of the tournament. Then Bowen. We didn’t have that same energy level in the second or third match in midfield and were too slow to close them down and put them under pressure. I don’t know how we ended up with IP Riley in centre mid at the end with Hassett and Steinmetz. Satchell or Clegg would have been my pick over Rennie at the end. Oh well, hindsight is always 20/20. Hopefully Klimkova learns from this and is kept on to make the changes she has learned from. Otherwise we start again. But I would expect about 8 to retire after this tournament. Time for some new blood to gain some experience. Clegg, Whinham, Leat, Taylor, Wisnewski. Plus those who are coming through with the age group teams and the likes of Steinmetz, Hand, Bott, Bowen who now have some good experience. Women’s Football is on the up and not getting out of our group won’t stop that. But that win against Norway has hopefully opened the eyes to how much potential their is and we have loads more fans of the Beautiful Game. My picks for the rest of the Tournament- Spain to win it all, Germany 2nd, Nigeria 3rd and USA 4th 😮

Sure there is potential in the women's game in NZ, but in the near future the Ferns are going to continue to slide down the FIFA rankings that's just going to be a fact of life. We get excited about two skilled prospects like Clegg & Whinham, but some of the emerging forces like Argentina, Colombia, Portugal, Nigeria, Morocco etc will now be producing dozens of similar young female players.

I see the Ferns falling down the rankings to sit somewhere in the 40-60 range. And all honesty, am not sure much can be done about that, given NZ's small popn and only 1 professional club. Read that Morocco already now has 2 pro women's divisions. The growth of the women's game in many parts of the world is going to be rapid, far outpacing little NZ. 

But hopefully there is a new wave of technical, more skilled girls coming through - as watching the Ferns has often been turgid stuff over the years. Lets hope that the Ferns of the future at least offer more in attack, and some goals.

But for now the UK commentators got it right 'we just are not very good'.

jeez you lot are a grumpy bunch.  yes the philippines game was gutting (my youngsters were at the game and distraught with the goal ruled out) but we have way over achieved what anyone expected coming in.  jacqui hand was our player of the tournament IMO and after she injured herself today I think wasnt really the same.  her, CJ Bott and Bowen were all fantastic across the tournment. My daughter has recently gotten into football and this will (hopefully) embed in her the love of the game that I have

mw4liverpool

jeez you lot are a grumpy bunch.  yes the philippines game was gutting (my youngsters were at the game and distraught with the goal ruled out) but we have way over achieved what anyone expected coming in.  jacqui hand was our player of the tournament IMO and after she injured herself today I think wasnt really the same.  her, CJ Bott and Bowen were all fantastic across the tournment. My daughter has recently gotten into football and this will (hopefully) embed in her the love of the game that I have

I'm afraid I have to disagree about overachieving.

I expected nothing from that first game and a win and a draw from our second and third. There is no excusing the fact that we should never have lost to the Philippines as their hiding today against Norway showed.  Yes the VAR call was atrocious but we should have easily walked away with a win and not have even needed to worry about that.
Today we should have been throwing the kitchen sink against a side who seems even worse in front of goal then us, but we did not. It was a very winnable game which we never seemed interested in winning.

I can see both host nations out by the end of the day on Monday and both nations switching off and going back to league/rugby/AFL. That's not good for the WC or either national team.

I think we all agree Bowen, Bott and Hand had good WCs while other Ferns should take a strong look at themselves.

There will be a lot of young people inspired by the WC in NZ (my rugby head nephew being one of them, he loves football now).  I just hope NZF doesn't blow it for the third time.

mw4liverpool

jeez you lot are a grumpy bunch.  yes the philippines game was gutting (my youngsters were at the game and distraught with the goal ruled out) but we have way over achieved what anyone expected coming in.  jacqui hand was our player of the tournament IMO and after she injured herself today I think wasnt really the same.  her, CJ Bott and Bowen were all fantastic across the tournment. My daughter has recently gotten into football and this will (hopefully) embed in her the love of the game that I have

Totally agree. I’m embarrassed by some of the comments on here. Sure the things could have turned out differently, but they could of also turned out way worse. 

kwlap

mw4liverpool

jeez you lot are a grumpy bunch.  yes the philippines game was gutting (my youngsters were at the game and distraught with the goal ruled out) but we have way over achieved what anyone expected coming in.  jacqui hand was our player of the tournament IMO and after she injured herself today I think wasnt really the same.  her, CJ Bott and Bowen were all fantastic across the tournment. My daughter has recently gotten into football and this will (hopefully) embed in her the love of the game that I have

Totally agree. I’m embarrassed by some of the comments on here. Sure the things could have turned out differently, but they could of also turned out way worse. 

Keep in mind fellas that it's in the pain of just being knocked out of the world cup.

It always hurts more when it's fresh.  Hopefully NZF keeps investing in the NZ game and hopefully supporters show up for the Nix Women so we can keep our club.

Claudia Bunge looked pretty assured when she came on, I am pretty hopeful the new faces will help us move up the rankings over the next few years. Just need to sort out the goal scoring problem.

I understand the dissapointment at not progressing out of the group - but some of it is a little OTT. The win against Norway was unerxpected and probably set us up for higher expectations, the Phillipines played out of their skins against us and managed to out think us on the day. A draw against the Swiss was decent. We conceeded 1 goal in pool play! We beat Norway, a team ranked higher than us and we drew with the Swiss, also ranked higher than us. The only real negative was the result against the Phillipines - and yes had we drawn that game we would have gone through but that is how tournement footy works.

Biggest gripe for me is around the way the squad wasnt fully used. No sight of Clegg, Foster, Cleverly or Anton. Klimkova relied way too much on Wilkinson to score from a header which, for mine, pigeon-holed our attack into one mode and one mode only. Having said that we had plenty of chances and took one of them against Norwat. Hand and Paige-Riley should have scored multiple times, but their composure let them down.

I think we'll see a number of retirements once the heat dies down a bit, serveral of the team are hitting their mid 30's so can only have a few years to go.

Pragnell will no doubt hail this as a success -  and to a point it was! It's just sad that we couldn't advance when it looked so promising from day 1.

How many times will "legacy" be mentioned this week?
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The thing that really pissed me off about last night wasn't the result, tbh we could've lost every game and I wouldn't have minded if the intensity and desire was there. Against Norway we had that and everything after was a wet noodle. Thirty minutes to go and we need to win to stay alive and we're fudgeing around the backline with the ball. Where's the urgency? Fudgeing attack!!!

That's the legacy from this comp in my mind, a once in a generation opportunity to get out of the group at a home world cup and we failed due to a lack of desire and a coach who doesn't have a clue.

Players will be happy even with the result, 5 star hotels, airbnb for 6 months rental cars and 50k each, not bad to play football, NZ Poured so much money into that budget and Fifa

I find some of the negativity on here towards this team quite harsh. On the one hand lots are ripping into the players for there lack of technical ability but then at the same time expecting the team to perform as if they are world beaters. !!!! You can't argue both at the same time.
But in reality this is the best performance by a NZ team at a world Cup. Mens or women's. Yes they could have done better maybe should have. but I think that needs to be celebrated.
Lots of calls for the coach to be fired. I think that would be a mistake. Everyone can see we don't have quality all over the park. She is doing a pretty good job with the players she has. But now this WC is over I would like to see her properly address our attacking issues. Its time to introduce and nurture through some younger more technical players. The likes of Clegg and Kelli Brown along with Hand  need to given opportunities as the status quo is not going to get any better. Yes I agree the older brigade need to now move on and I think Klimkova is in a good place to oversee this transition with her knowledge of the current players 

Monto

The thing that really pissed me off about last night wasn't the result, tbh we could've lost every game and I wouldn't have minded if the intensity and desire was there. Against Norway we had that and everything after was a wet noodle. Thirty minutes to go and we need to win to stay alive and we're fudgeing around the backline with the ball. Where's the urgency? Fudgeing attack!!!

That's the legacy from this comp in my mind, a once in a generation opportunity to get out of the group at a home world cup and we failed due to a lack of desire and a coach who doesn't have a clue.

ok, but that same coach created a culture that led to us beating norway and winning our first ever game at a world cup.  should we have beaten the phillipines?  yes.  they blew that and will be gutted about it, as was evident in all of the post match interviews, they knew it.  we lucked out with an easy group, with norway in shambles and didn't take the opportunity.

i think back to 2010 when the men were in the same situation, we needed to win the last game and limped to a nil all draw.  that really pissed me off then.  I'd rather lose 3 nil going for the win than be conservative.  I thought the ferns threw enough at them; they made all their subs and the keeper went up for multiple corners FFS.  we created some half chances and didnt take them

Digging through the stats https://fbref.com/en/matches/7b256a2e/Switzerland-New-Zealand-July-30-2023-FIFA-Womens-World-Cup

NZ 0.7 xG - Switzerland 0.1 xG
Vic Esson 0.1 xG - Hannah Wilkinson 0.0 xG
Hannah Wilkinson 16 touches in 81 minutes, her replacement Gabi Rennie 11 touches in 9 minutes
Ria Percival 37 touches in 71 minutes, her replacement Grace Jale 15 touches in 19 minutes 
and theres more ...

There were some tired legs out there last night.

I agree that we were "just not that good" but I expected our intensity from the Norway game to carry on through to the Philippines game.  Philippines did not win that game, really, we lost it, and chiefly this was through our toothless attack (in all games). The only goal (against Norway) was scored through individual brilliance and also because Norway expected an easy game from us. Philippines knew what to expect from us by then.  In that sense, it was our win against Norway that was the fluke win; our loss against Philippines was a fluke win for them on the same basis.
Contrary to most, I think the last game (against Switzerland) was a good one, for a team of mediocre quality.  It could have gone either way, and a draw was a fair result.  
If anything, I expected more leadership on the field from Hannah Wilkinson as a senior player  - not sure I saw enough of her on the field last night, when an extra effort was called for.  

Football40s

Players will be happy even with the result, 5 star hotels, airbnb for 6 months rental cars and 50k each, not bad to play football, NZ Poured so much money into that budget and Fifa

What a shark take - do you think they didn't want to reach the knockout stages ffs?

Overall for me - proud of the effort from our girls and think they did prove pre tournament form somewhat wrong, however not to the point where I would call our campaign a success (because the criteria was success was getting through and we didn't. Thanks a lot, Philippines). But also don't think it was a failure - expectations were probably for 3-4 points, and we got 4 points, didn't lose to the Euro nations and were pretty bloody unlucky to lose the one we did. Can it be both not a success and not a failure - depends how you define it really. 

Also interesting that we had more xG than the opposition in all three games. 

Fair from Voerman
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-womens-world-cup-2023/132647353/fifa-womens-world-cup-creativity-scoring-the-football-ferns-weak-points-once-again

lthomas20

Football40s

Players will be happy even with the result, 5 star hotels, airbnb for 6 months rental cars and 50k each, not bad to play football, NZ Poured so much money into that budget and Fifa

What a shark take - do you think they didn't want to reach the knockout stages ffs?

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— New Zealand Football 🇳🇿 (@NZ_Football) July 30, 2023

Mainland FC

I agree that we were "just not that good" but I expected our intensity from the Norway game to carry on through to the Philippines game.  Philippines did not win that game, really, we lost it, and chiefly this was through our toothless attack (in all games). The only goal (against Norway) was scored through individual brilliance and also because Norway expected an easy game from us. Philippines knew what to expect from us by then.  In that sense, it was our win against Norway that was the fluke win; our loss against Philippines was a fluke win for them on the same basis.
Contrary to most, I think the last game (against Switzerland) was a good one, for a team of mediocre quality.  It could have gone either way, and a draw was a fair result.  
If anything, I expected more leadership on the field from Hannah Wilkinson as a senior player  - not sure I saw enough of her on the field last night, when an extra effort was called for.  

The we lost it really is amplified watching the replay of The Phillipines goal.  How did Esson not have that wrapped up?

No matter how many times I see it that stings.  

Sure but when we didn't score a goal in 180 minutes against two teams we probably should have, then I'm not sure it's the keeper's fault. You could equally say Esson kept us ahead vs Norway with that superb tip on to the bar late on.

I think we need more creativity in the midfield as well...I guess younger players coming through like Whinham and Pijnenburg may fill that space.  I just feel that overall it's an opportunity wasted...maybe some players should have been involved more.  It will interesting to see who is in the team for the Olympics next year because there is another chance to do something.

Mainland FC

I agree that we were "just not that good" but I expected our intensity from the Norway game to carry on through to the Philippines game.  Philippines did not win that game, really, we lost it, and chiefly this was through our toothless attack (in all games). The only goal (against Norway) was scored through individual brilliance and also because Norway expected an easy game from us. Philippines knew what to expect from us by then.  In that sense, it was our win against Norway that was the fluke win; our loss against Philippines was a fluke win for them on the same basis.
Contrary to most, I think the last game (against Switzerland) was a good one, for a team of mediocre quality.  It could have gone either way, and a draw was a fair result.  
If anything, I expected more leadership on the field from Hannah Wilkinson as a senior player  - not sure I saw enough of her on the field last night, when an extra effort was called for.  

I think what annoys me is it feels like we had the same game plan 3 times. 
The situations were completely different. We should have made many more chances against the Philippines and against Switzerland a draw was not good enough so we needed to take the game to the opposition. 
Sure stealing a counter goal and hanging worked against the higher rated opposition. But it shouldn’t have been the plan against lower ranked opposition, unless the FF believe they weren’t in fact lower ranked…

Rosie White’s take on the Ferns campaign: 
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-womens-world-cup-2023/132650314/fifa-womens-world-cup-football-ferns-make-rosie-white-proud-but-substitutions-surprise

For those who watched the last game would have seen what NZ were lacking. Good coaching with some vision. NZ looked lost with no real idea of what to do. Yes, we defended well but lacked any sting on attack, hence our goal tally is low. No creativity and vision. It was no different with the boys U20 WC, we are good at getting behind the ball and putting our bodies on the line but we need to be able to play through the midfield and split defences. NZF should look to ensure clubs create more academies to produce quality players but also a quality brand/style of football. It may also need NZF to break the mold dollar wise by employing some senior coaches who can change the way we play.  

Sidi 1

I think we need more creativity in the midfield as well...I guess younger players coming through like Whinham and Pijnenburg may fill that space.  I just feel that overall it's an opportunity wasted...maybe some players should have been involved more.  It will interesting to see who is in the team for the Olympics next year because there is another chance to do something.

Yes, it was an opportunity to give some youngsters some experience as they will have no fear and would have run their legs off
   

martinb

Rosie White’s take on the Ferns campaign: 
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-womens-world-cup-2023/132650314/fifa-womens-world-cup-football-ferns-make-rosie-white-proud-but-substitutions-surprise

Yes, we can be proud but also disappointed we didn't do better and should have. We have more at our disposal than some of the minnows who have surprised everyone. This I feel sits with NZF who should take some responsibility. When will we learn? You cannot blame the size of the population for lack of talent etc. Why then are we top in Rugby, Cycling, Rowing, Snowboarding etc this I feel goes back to how the governing board is managed. Bad managers produce bad/inefficient teams!!!    

Partially to the comment from Football Ted - is there perhaps a question "bang for your buck" in there?  In other words, how much money is needed from NZ  - relatively speaking  - to get a winter Olympic medal in snowboarding, vs getting a world championship in rowing (in various categories, not just one) vs some sort of credible achievement in a world football tournament?