Anthony Hudson (FAT Technical Director | Thailand)

I bet he will be running a mile from claiming any part in the Wynne debacle

It's in the subtext of linking the two statements together like that.

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The ball has got to drop, Hudson has to go!.

#HudsonOut

I was a supporter when he got hired and I was still defending him just up until before kick off knowing that winning this game would help him and relieve some pressure.

When Hudson gets back, he is going to have a shark storm in the media to deal with. I hope Martin it looking at this and considering what options we have. This was meant to be a meaningless hit out that we should have won. We will drop even lower after this.

If NZF has learned anything from Honiara and what happened after that, then they will realise that his position is no longer defendable and he has to go. Its as simple as that.

NZ Football is going to be in survival mode IMHO with their hands full with their other fudgeups. Hudson is safe enough for now unless the playing squad apply pressure.

Remember when we were ranked in the 70's

Something is seriously wrong with the elite level of Mens football. Yes it is difficult to get games and people together from all around the world but to scrape through with a draw against Myanmar FFS.

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/myanmar-fight-back-ear...

Blamed on the humidity and lack of full squad.

As NZ Football ever been at a lower point?

Eligibility saga (Wynne)

Failing to front for an appeal (U23s)

On the back of the U23s, we are not going to the Olympics.

Potential FIFA ramifications for widespread player ineligibility (seems to be across all mens teams and potentially womens)

Coaches getting dumped for no reason (Emblen, Gerdsen, Jose and Temple)

U20s playing like ass and picking random players in random formations and positions (It was commented at the time)

Losing to Thailand and now Myanmar (whom just got dumped 9-0 by...... Kuwait)

Have not won in 2 years

Hudson has no friends in the press

I think I've been calling for the wrong guys head. FDJ can stay, Hudson needs to go. Replace him with Emblen cause under him, we looked like we could actually play.

Last night was larry longball and constant crosses into the box from wide with tactics from a bygone era played without any real pressure on us. No movement off the ball, no making use of the counter attack where Rojas and Kosta flourish - just nothing. We have players out of position, caps handed out willy nilly... To be honest, if this is the new flexible style he was talking about this week we'll it's quite obvious it's rather poor. I recall that when he arrived, he said our teams would all play a certain way which would be identifiable. I think it's identifiable as crap.

Can this actually be any worse?

Ramon should have got the job......best coach in NZ.

Time for NZ football to be properly run.....time to end the Brit mafia running the show. They can't manage and they can't coach!!!!!

A 1-1 draw in an away friendly isn't enough to fire your coach.

Although, I'm not saying he's doing a good job, and I'm concerned by the lack of wins.

I thought Hudson was going to do a good job early on when he was talking about his plan and developing players and alignment and blah blah blah but now I'm done with him. Some of his selections are baffling and the team is disjointed and toothless. He can't spend the last however many games handing out caps like he's a promo girl handing out flyers to Mermaids and then blame the result on a lack of squad depth - wasn't he meant to be building that depth the whole time? The eligibility shambles hasn't helped but the rot is deeper than that.

Hudson afterwards: "We're just going to continue along the same lines..."

Definition of insanity - doing the same thing and expecting a different result?

I really think its about the way we played. On the face of it, a result against an Asian country looks ok.

When its a side ranked lower than us, that just got throttled 9-0 by Kuwait, are ranked lower than us, are physically smaller and we field pretty much the strongest XI that Hudson has put out yet from memory and almost near our top XI with the exception of Wood, Smith and Thomas (?) and we looked absolutely bereft of ideas on attack then yes, it is.

Read the match thread and there is a genuine theme running through it that we were poor. We had no idea when we had the ball, and we really reverted to go out wide and hoick it in. The amount of times the ball was kicked 40 yards to someone up front and that someone was not even within 30 yards of the pass shows how aimless we were. Reid, was on the ball 25 in his own half, not one player within 20 and he hoists it long up the right flank to no one and it goes for a throw in. They were instructed to play that way and it was really really ugly. When Myanmar got their tail up, they started cutting through us and had pretty much most of the last 30 mins of the game. Yeah we had some subs but we really lost our shape and if anything, it exposed the depth we most certainly do not have. Just cause they have been exposed, doesn't mean that we now have depth. For 50 mins of the game, they did not even pressure us and they parked that bus much like AWs did against Mexico in Mexico. If you didn't watch, thats what 50 mins of it looked like.

This has the potential to not learn from Honiara once again. The way we played against Thailand was poor and this was worse. I'm not one to overreact after a result but this has massive alarm bells ringing and I really don't think, when this was a result that pretty much everyone had us to win and win comfortably, that we should downplay this.

Maybe he needs more support staff.

Those defending Hudson need to (re)watch this video. Because this is the team that we just drew 1-1 with.

Well either some Indian Bookies had some serious money on a result like this or NZ have taken a giant leap backwards. With some of the players we have, we should have won about 5-0. Will Hudson be under any pressure as a result? Nope. Will lessons have been learned? Nope. Can we take anything positives out of a 1-1 draw against a team of this obviously high quality? Yes....The duty free shopping is good.

Anthony, show the team the 9-0 game against Kuwait and you shouldn't have had to say anything.

Exactly right.  We really couldn't score a goal from open play against THAT defence?!

The keeper was equally headless-chooky last night (although made a cracking save to a header late on), but we couldn't take advantage. Brockie just about falling over two metres out from an open goal sticks in the mind.

Also this as there were a few of these players involved I believe:

I think we are ranked about 1970 now (or should be)

Pretty sure the keeper Charlie Dempseyed that fifth goal...

I think the problem is far deeper than just Hudson himself.

Yes I agree that he has completely cheapened the jersey to a point where his entire bench was kids most of who don't even stand out in a northern or central league match.

But the bigger problem is a systemic issue where NZ Football has been so poorly run for years and years that everyone involved in the organisation is prone to mediocrity. You can argue all you like but the administration errors are just so unprofessional and nothing has even happened as a consequence! The whole hierarchy should have gone for something like that. 

NZ Football has been poorly run for the last decade and the 2010 success was down to Ricki having a good bunch of players who overachieved. Anyone who understands the game would tell you that and even the players themselves would. To do what we did at the World Cup was a greater feat than most give them credit for but it wasn't on the back of NZ Football's good work. 

They also never rode that wave like they should have and even now people going on about our Under 20's success in the U20 World Cup - winning a game was great that's what sport is about but surely people understand how much the U20 world cup has regressed over the years. It use to be top draw years ago but now none of the big gun's even bother playing in it and even the Brazil's and Serbia's who made the final where decidedly average compared to yesteryear and I was quite frankly shocked how substandard the level was even of some of the top sides. 

I don't think you can ever expect us to be a force or even highly competitive on the pitch when we are run so poorly off it apart from the anomaly of 2010.

Michael Utting saying the players have lost faith in Hudson on Stuff ATM. I can't link on my phone sorry. He also suggests Declan Edge for AWs coach - lol

here you are

He'd be great for the All Whites. We'd strangle the life out of every game with 99% possession but never score. Then he'd complain once he got sacked that his teams played the best football and the results were not a fair reflection.

Interesting. 

"There are people not involved in the setup now who have decided to take a step back because they are disillusioned with what they are seeing and they don't want to be part of that.

Siggy and Dura?

I heard Dura say on radio sport the other day that he thought Hudson was a good coach and knew his stuff. Sounded quite genuine and IIRC wasn't a response to a question directly about what was he like as a coach.

Dura's mates with a few people who have I'm sure.