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Anthony Hudson (FAT Technical Director | Thailand)

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about 9 years ago

CactusJones wrote:

Wow, as a Norwich supporter, I don't know what to think. 

Also as a Norwich supporter... NO!

It's that fudgeing piece of garbage The $un. 

FFS... i;d rather take Alan Irvine than Hudson.

about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

I think The Sun is 'avin a laugh.  If he couldn't crack it at soon to be non league again Newport, he does not have a hope in hell of a League Two/A League gig, let alone a Championship one.  The Sun knows this but also knows most English have not got a clue about football in Bahrain and NZ.

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about 9 years ago

NZ > Bahrain

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

about 9 years ago

New entry on wiki - turned down an approach to manage Norwich?

about 9 years ago

Lol the Norwich City Facebook Fan page are freaking out over the fact that Hudson is a supposed favourite. 

about 9 years ago

Kawasaki wrote:

New entry on wiki - turned down an approach to manage Norwich?

Lol

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

2ndBest wrote:

It's part of a strategy.

1) Agent talks him up to media contacts (Derby, CCM, and now Norwich).

2) Forges record on wiki

3) Hope to perform well at Confeds and WCQ

4) Hope those performance get a little bit of notice (see: Reid after 2010 WC)

5) Potential clubs look at his 'record'  and that other clubs were 'interested'

So transparent

Let's see which of these doesn't belong here "Hudson is apparently one of five names on the club's shortlist, alongside ex-England boss Roy Hodgson, former Crystal Palace manager Alan Pardew, first-team coach Alan Irvine and Nigel Pearson".  So obviously bull shark

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about 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

valeo wrote:

Nah, Jimmy Carr is funny :)

He really isn't.

You probably mean Alan Carr, who is definitely not funny.

Though Alan Carr has more of a football connection, being the son of long-serving Newcastle United head scout Graham Carr, a former manager of Northampton Town and Blackpool. Former Spurs and Man City scout too. He was regular centre back for Northampton Town in their only ever season in England's top flight in the mid-1960's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Carr

Graham Carr coached former Christchurch United striker Richard Hill at Northampton when he scored 33 league goals in winning the Fourth Division and was bought by Graham Taylor at Watford. Richard Hill was Christchurch United's top goal-scorer in 1983 in our national league.

Son of a footballer father, just like our Anthony Hudson...

If all else fails, Hudson could always fall back on stand-up comedy like Alan Carr - he's really good at spinning yarns...

He could start a TV show called "Hudson and Halls" if he found someone called Halls as his sidekick.

(Canterbury United's assistant coach is Joe Hall who is completing a Ph.D in sports psychology)

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about 9 years ago

Wow, real dilemma here. Do we support Anfony here, or Des & Greenie? Some brains may explode with the effort to prove that both are wrong.


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about 9 years ago

"I went to the Phoenix and Rufer is the player I know"

Only knows one player.

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about 9 years ago

Balbi wrote:

"I went to the Phoenix and Rufer is the player I know"

Only knows one player.

I think he meant this in footballing sense, like form is of his old, he still plays how he remembers.

about 9 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Wow, real dilemma here. Do we support Anfony here, or Des & Greenie? Some brains may explode with the effort to prove that both are wrong.

One picks a half dead Parkhouse in front of Tom Doyle at left back, the other continually picks Moses Dyer in the senior squad.  I'm sure there is some way that they can indeed both be wrong.

about 9 years ago

i hope Kosta's people leak something about why Kosta was not in the squad... 

Monty Patterson out and hudson chooses Rufer (who I like... but is nowhere near ready) over Kosta?

Hudson is a ridiculous fool.

about 9 years ago

liberty_nz wrote:

i hope Kosta's people leak something about why Kosta was not in the squad... 

Monty Patterson out and hudson chooses Rufer (who I like... but is nowhere near ready) over Kosta?

Hudson is a ridiculous fool.

oh don't tell me you have just discovered this...

Grumpy old bastard alert

about 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

liberty_nz wrote:

i hope Kosta's people leak something about why Kosta was not in the squad... 

Monty Patterson out and hudson chooses Rufer (who I like... but is nowhere near ready) over Kosta?

Hudson is a ridiculous fool.

oh don't tell me you have just discovered this...

I would say 'imposter '

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

almost 9 years ago

Not picking on the lad, but too many this could be about:

"...came on as a substitute against Myanmar, but didn't make a lasting impression."
 



almost 9 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Wow, real dilemma here. Do we support Anfony here, or Des & Greenie? Some brains may explode with the effort to prove that both are wrong.

If in doubt, we could support the Kiwi. Oh.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

almost 9 years ago


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almost 9 years ago

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almost 9 years ago

martinb wrote:

Not picking on the lad, but too many this could be about:

"...came on as a substitute against Myanmar, but didn't make a lasting impression."
 

Isn't this the point?

Hudson has called up 54 players for 8 squads. (14 games, 5 of which were in the Oceania Nation's Cup) 

Lots of them haven't made a lasting impression, but if he can claim discovering Themi and 1 or 2 others it's a great add to his CV for when he properly touts himself for a job in England after the Confederations Cup

Berti Vogts applied a similar approach when he took over Scotland, he gave caps to a huge number of players, and years later after he had left he would claim that he discovered Craig Gordon and James McFadden, but oddly he never mentioned he capped Kevin Kyle!

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almost 9 years ago

Totally agree with that last post, how can you expect a settle team if you play 54 players in 14 games, its madness.

almost 9 years ago

I'm more interested in this squad and future ones showing consistency.

We have qualified for the confeds and have big games coming up... now its about finding the best 11 and letting them play as much as possible.

almost 9 years ago

ir43 wrote:

Totally agree with that last post, how can you expect a settle team if you play 54 players in 14 games, its madness.

Sure if you're an MBA type looking for a short term pay-off, so you can cash in and move on, that doesn't make sense. 

However if you are looking at the situation over the long term, it makes a lot more sense. There are just not that many opportunities for NZ players to play at higher levels, we've got one professional side and limited pathways beyond there. While using the national team to trial untested players isn't ideal, it is one of the only options NZF have to try and separate out the best of the rest (players with potential who are not already in professional environments). It also makes sense to utilise the cycle between world cups to do this, starting immediately after a world cup find as many potential players as possible, try to help the best of these reach their potential, reduce these numbers down as the lead up to the really important games come closer. 

You may not be settling a team but the idea is that two or three years from when you first start, at least two or three of those from the wider pool have used the opportunity to kick on and are now proper national team level players. 

almost 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Sounds like a Beatles tune. Hudsons 54.

Grumpy old bastard alert

almost 9 years ago

martinb wrote:

Not picking on the lad, but too many this could be about:

"...came on as a substitute against Myanmar, but didn't make a lasting impression."
 

Isn't this the point?

Hudson has called up 54 players for 8 squads. (14 games, 5 of which were in the Oceania Nation's Cup) 

Lots of them haven't made a lasting impression, but if he can claim discovering Themi and 1 or 2 others it's a great add to his CV for when he properly touts himself for a job in England after the Confederations Cup

Berti Vogts applied a similar approach when he took over Scotland, he gave caps to a huge number of players, and years later after he had left he would claim that he discovered Craig Gordon and James McFadden, but oddly he never mentioned he capped Kevin Kyle!

Not a Hudson fan but he can reasonably argue that he has turned over every rock to find international grade footballers. Its not my approach to it but when some one throws up a name, he can rightlyfully say 'tried him, didn't work'

The opposite to that is picking Rufer... and Dyer...

Grumpy old bastard alert

almost 9 years ago

if there was a match faces to names challenge for about 20 (maybe more even) of those 54, I'd fail miserably.

bling blang blah
almost 9 years ago

djtim3000 wrote:

ir43 wrote:

Totally agree with that last post, how can you expect a settle team if you play 54 players in 14 games, its madness.

Sure if you're an MBA type looking for a short term pay-off, so you can cash in and move on, that doesn't make sense. 

However if you are looking at the situation over the long term, it makes a lot more sense. There are just not that many opportunities for NZ players to play at higher levels, we've got one professional side and limited pathways beyond there. While using the national team to trial untested players isn't ideal, it is one of the only options NZF have to try and separate out the best of the rest (players with potential who are not already in professional environments). It also makes sense to utilise the cycle between world cups to do this, starting immediately after a world cup find as many potential players as possible, try to help the best of these reach their potential, reduce these numbers down as the lead up to the really important games come closer. 

You may not be settling a team but the idea is that two or three years from when you first start, at least two or three of those from the wider pool have used the opportunity to kick on and are now proper national team level players. 

I think that argument stacks up for random older players who maybe haven't been tried out yet - Themi, Van Den Broek, Vincent etc, but not for the guys who are still young enough to be playing for age group sides. 

The other element is that we don't get many chances to have our guys together and getting used to playing, or chances to win games and get our ranking up to attract better friendlies, so using the AWs as a trying ground has costs in those areas too

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almost 9 years ago

djtim3000 wrote:

ir43 wrote:

Totally agree with that last post, how can you expect a settle team if you play 54 players in 14 games, its madness.

Sure if you're an MBA type looking for a short term pay-off, so you can cash in and move on, that doesn't make sense. 

However if you are looking at the situation over the long term, it makes a lot more sense. There are just not that many opportunities for NZ players to play at higher levels, we've got one professional side and limited pathways beyond there. While using the national team to trial untested players isn't ideal, it is one of the only options NZF have to try and separate out the best of the rest (players with potential who are not already in professional environments). It also makes sense to utilise the cycle between 5world cups to do this, starting immediately after a world cup find as many potential players as possible, try to help the best of these reach their potential, reduce these numbers down as the lead up to the really important games come closer. 

You may not be settling a team but the idea is that two or three years from when you first start, at least two or three of those from the wider pool have used the opportunity to kick on and are now proper national team level players. 

I think that argument stacks up for random older players who maybe haven't been tried out yet - Themi, Van Den Broek, Vincent etc, but not for the guys who are still young enough to be playing for age group sides. 

The other element is that we don't get many chances to have our guys together and getting used to playing, or chances to win games and get our ranking up to attract better friendlies, so using the AWs as a trying ground has costs in those areas too

surely there comes a time though when you say "This is my squad "   and unless an absolute bolter of a gem appears  that is what you work with ?
almost 9 years ago

If I recall correctly, Hudson told us all what he was doing when he first took over and more recently has said that he has basically settled on who his team will be. While many might not agree with his approach, I don't think we can bag him because he has gone on to do what he said he would do.

almost 9 years ago

So you can't bag me if I break a guy's leg on the field if I say I was going to do it before hand?

almost 9 years ago

Somewhat suprising that Aaron Clapham never got called up given the number of players that did.

almost 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

So you can't bag me if I break a guy's leg on the field if I say I was going to do it before hand?

What a stupid analogy and not surprising coming from you. This point was debated at the time and now being regurgitated as if its some great revelation.
almost 9 years ago

Hook line.

Just because he said he was going to do something doesn't mean a) he's right, or b) it isn't worth debating.

almost 9 years ago

martinb wrote:

Not picking on the lad, but too many this could be about:

"...came on as a substitute against Myanmar, but didn't make a lasting impression."
 

Lots of them haven't made a lasting impression, 

I don't mind Kiwi players not making a big impression, but against Myanmar? They should be thumped by a Stirling Sports Prem All Stars. They should be thumped by the WeeNix. We shouldn't be selecting anyone who isn't going to dominate against Myanmar.



almost 9 years ago

Also we seem to have set back the careers of some of the actually promising players we did find with them picking up injuries while playing for us and losing career momentum...see Henry Cameron and Liam Graham. 



almost 9 years ago

you can blame Hudson for many things but blaming him for picking those two (who were half decent) and their injuries is not on

almost 9 years ago

Kawasaki wrote:

you can blame Hudson for many things but blaming him for picking those two (who were half decent) and their injuries is not on

not blaming him. It just seems a bit crap.Seems like they both worked long and hard over years, were starting to get noticed, got a call up, got injured and then have struggled to get back to where they were.



almost 9 years ago

martinb wrote:

Kawasaki wrote:

you can blame Hudson for many things but blaming him for picking those two (who were half decent) and their injuries is not on

not blaming him. It just seems a bit crap.Seems like they both worked long and hard over years, were starting to get noticed, got a call up, got injured and then have struggled to get back to where they were.

You reckon it something to do with the medical team? Maybe not doing the right warm ups etc? Both happened during games.