General Football Discussion

Anthony Hudson (FAT Technical Director | Thailand)

2523 replies · 495,700 views
about 9 years ago

ish

                                                                        COYN    

about 9 years ago

valeo wrote:

No, it's a fudgeed up thing to say considering what happened recently.

That's plainly obvious. 

Plainly. Insensitive pun. That's fudged up. 


Allegedly

about 9 years ago

valeo wrote:

Nah, Jimmy Carr is funny :)

He really isn't.

Three for me, and two for them.

about 9 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

valeo wrote:

Nah, Jimmy Carr is funny :)

He really isn't.

You probably mean Alan Carr, who is definitely not funny.

Grumpy old bastard alert

about 9 years ago

HZA wrote:

ish

Yeah, not tell your friends about funny, but chuckle under your breath a little bit sometimes funny.

a.haak

about 9 years ago

Jimmy Carr does well with what he's got. He's not a genius, but mugs jokes well enough.

This is a show I really enjoyed watching which puts his style next to a few other different styles.



about 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

valeo wrote:

Nah, Jimmy Carr is funny :)

He really isn't.

You probably mean Alan Carr, who is definitely not funny.

I think Jimmy Carr can be very funny, and really suits QI (very British) - a show I love.   Alan Carr is just fudgeing cringeworthy annoying.

Still comedy like beauty is all in the eye of the beholder.

about 9 years ago

Back on topic and stop bickering, please.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

about 9 years ago

This argument wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for fudgeing Hudson.

about 9 years ago

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/88327879/attitude-of-top-young-players-still-has-all-whites-coach-anthony-hudson-scratching-his-head

about 9 years ago

coochiee wrote:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/88327879/attitude-of-top-young-players-still-has-all-whites-coach-anthony-hudson-scratching-his-head

He's not wrong on this one.
about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Jaume wrote:

coochiee wrote:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/88327879/attitude-of-top-young-players-still-has-all-whites-coach-anthony-hudson-scratching-his-head

He's not wrong on this one.

Except he's not comparing like with like -he's talking about guys who are amateurs and comparing them to pros overseas. We do have young footballers with talent and professional attitudes and they're in professional environments. There's probably heaps of talented kids with bad attitudes who are amateurs wanting to be pro in Europe too but because of the size of the talent pool they are nowhere near their national U20s sides.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

about 9 years ago

If he's right in saying their were players at the u20 training camp grumbling that it was eating into their holiday time then they clearly don't have the mentality to succeed as he states.

about 9 years ago

To reach you goals you have to make sacrifices, if those guys don't get that now, they never will.  If they expect a pro contact to be handed to them by not putting the work in they're dreaming.

about 9 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

If he's right in saying their were players at the u20 training camp grumbling that it was eating into their holiday time then they clearly don't have the mentality to succeed as he states.

If that's true then they should have just been sent home. Why should the coaches bother with dealing with players who would rather be on holiday, they should only have the ones who want to be there to work with. 
about 9 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

If he's right in saying their were players at the u20 training camp grumbling that it was eating into their holiday time then they clearly don't have the mentality to succeed as he states.

Yeah, but he's implying it's a big issue with football here generally. But if you're not professional in some form at 19 years old you're most likely never going to be, and most of the guys at these domestic training camps aren't professional because the professional guys are off at their professional clubs being, you know, professional footballers. Then there are the guys who are in the US college system, who presumably are driven and focused as well. So the kids he's talking about are drawn from the bunch who either just weren't talented enough or who weren't driven/focused enough, so of course these attitudes seem really common.

I suspect the proportion of young talented guys with the right attitude to make it professionally vs the talented kids who don't have the right attitude is probably the same here as anywhere else, it's just that because our talent pool is smaller he's seeing them here whereas in Europe countries have big enough talent pools that they'd never have to consider picking an amateur for their U20 side.

For me his whining about this seems like a pre-emptive excuse: "I couldn't implement the plan I wanted because kiwi kids were too unprofessional". Never mind that he's the one picking amateur teenagers over experienced professionals 

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

about 9 years ago

What a great post Conon Troutmam,  Keat,  Henderson and co must be laughing at this latest moan from Mr Hudson. If he wants to get the message across pick the kids at pro clubs just make sure ANTHONY they are eligible.

about 9 years ago

Duh! Hudson..... you pick amateur kids before they have done their time and you are surprised that you get amateur attitudes?  FFS he chucked a whole lot of youngsters into the AW's. They didn't have to do the grind...it was all too easy. No wonder they all think its easy being a footballer.  He continues to be pick  at least three youngsters for the AW's who have had SFA background. I am sorry but 15 games for Auckland City does not make you an international footballer....unless you are a junior Messi...and non of them are.

Someone needs to take Hudson aside and point out that NZ has an incredibly small pool of playing talent. Historically we have got by by selecting our most experianced 11 players and try and fit them into the side. The jump from the domestic semi amateur league to international football is too great. 

I wonder if he is just covering his arse for upcoming failures by pushing the blame onto player attitude.

about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Kyle1502 wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

If he's right in saying their were players at the u20 training camp grumbling that it was eating into their holiday time then they clearly don't have the mentality to succeed as he states.

If that's true then they should have just been sent home. Why should the coaches bother with dealing with players who would rather be on holiday, they should only have the ones who want to be there to work with. 

Maybe planning a camp in advance instead of advising them in early December might alleviate this issue, as I know of kids who had booked and paid for holidays overseas and to hear of a camp at such short notice, meant losing lots of money. There is far more to this than just being no shows!
about 9 years ago

Sunseeker wrote:

Kyle1502 wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

If he's right in saying their were players at the u20 training camp grumbling that it was eating into their holiday time then they clearly don't have the mentality to succeed as he states.

If that's true then they should have just been sent home. Why should the coaches bother with dealing with players who would rather be on holiday, they should only have the ones who want to be there to work with. 

Maybe planning a camp in advance instead of advising them in early December might alleviate this issue, as I know of kids who had booked and paid for holidays overseas and to hear of a camp at such short notice, meant losing lots of money. There is far more to this than just being no shows!

3 weeks notice is an age in NZF time.

A tip for the kids next year - expect a camp in early January...

Grumpy old bastard alert

about 9 years ago

Sunseeker wrote:

Kyle1502 wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

If he's right in saying their were players at the u20 training camp grumbling that it was eating into their holiday time then they clearly don't have the mentality to succeed as he states.

If that's true then they should have just been sent home. Why should the coaches bother with dealing with players who would rather be on holiday, they should only have the ones who want to be there to work with. 

Maybe planning a camp in advance instead of advising them in early December might alleviate this issue, as I know of kids who had booked and paid for holidays overseas and to hear of a camp at such short notice, meant losing lots of money. There is far more to this than just being no shows!

Hmm. I'd like to be an All White and pro footballer but so long as doesn't interfere with my boozing and holidaying. Any wonder these kids are happy to be paid stupid money by stupid local clubs
about 9 years ago

happydays wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

Kyle1502 wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

If he's right in saying their were players at the u20 training camp grumbling that it was eating into their holiday time then they clearly don't have the mentality to succeed as he states.

If that's true then they should have just been sent home. Why should the coaches bother with dealing with players who would rather be on holiday, they should only have the ones who want to be there to work with. 

Maybe planning a camp in advance instead of advising them in early December might alleviate this issue, as I know of kids who had booked and paid for holidays overseas and to hear of a camp at such short notice, meant losing lots of money. There is far more to this than just being no shows!

Hmm. I'd like to be an All White and pro footballer but so long as doesn't interfere with my boozing and holidaying. Any wonder these kids are happy to be paid stupid money by stupid local clubs

Maybe they belong to families too who might only see them once a year . Some of the responses here lack insight into the life of a 17-20 year old who may have been playing and training for 11 1/2 months , with clashes between school/club/ Federation/ National/youth league  and in many instances are completely exhausted and often injured. Reality check people , they are not all just playing football , they are juggling jobs/school/university and a heavy training regime . Looking at Acadamies overseas these kids are managed by single entities , not flogged into submission . I know a number of these kids and they all take it very seriously , but there is a bigger picture that needs contextualisation 
about 9 years ago

Isn't part of elite sport sacrificing things like holidays with your family or time relaxing over the Christmas period? Look at the EPL and Championship - they have hugely congested calendars at Christmas time, and even the Nix had games on boxing day and NY day this season. Then in the northern hemisphere summer there's international games, preseason training camps and tours and so on. That might suck for them but it's part of the job, like part of being a cop is having to work shifts, or part of being a soldier is being deployed overseas.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

about 9 years ago

Sorry for not citing you, but a couple of posts back the poster hit the nail on the head in saying [and I paraphrase] part of the problem is that the coach has put too many young and untried kids into the AWs to 'blood them' and it provides a belief to them and every other youngster that its not that important to go to the US on scholarship or hawk yourself around Europe, you can play for Onehunga sports and get picked for the national team. There is not enough value being attached to the white shirt. Sure, those that get it are proud and believe they deserve it but it needs to be tougher.

about 9 years ago

You can have a proffesional attitude, regardless if your paid to play or not.

A fan is a fan.

about 9 years ago

One name missing from this article - Shane Smeltz

Anthony Hudson an interested spectator at Phoenix training

"Barbarouses is certain to feature in a busy year for the All Whites, along with club team-mates Andrew Durante, Glen Moss, Michael McGlinchey and Tom Doyle. Other current Phoenix players, including Matt Ridenton, Alex Rufer, Logan Rogerson and Louis Fenton have all featured for New Zealand during Hudson's tenure, while James McGarry has long been considered an All White in waiting and Hamish Watson is also in the mix."

about 9 years ago

One name missing from this article - Shane Smeltz

Anthony Hudson an interested spectator at Phoenix training

"Barbarouses is certain to feature in a busy year for the All Whites, along with club team-mates Andrew Durante, Glen Moss, Michael McGlinchey and Tom Doyle. Other current Phoenix players, including Matt Ridenton, Alex Rufer, Logan Rogerson and Louis Fenton have all featured for New Zealand during Hudson's tenure, while James McGarry has long been considered an All White in waiting and Hamish Watson is also in the mix."

Both same age - 35.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

linked to norwich

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3103113/anthony-hudson-frame-norwich-boss/

360footballnews.com

about 9 years ago

Players and coaches are always being linked to clubs but in this case lets prey that its true and Hudson gets the job and his first signing would be Dyer

about 9 years ago

I can't see him going anywhere before the qualifiers, but either he or his people do a fantastic job getting (leaking?) his name in the media every time a vacancy pops up.

about 9 years ago

Wow, as a Norwich supporter, I don't know what to think. 

Didn't he leave Bahrain at a very strange time to join us?

He qualified for Asian Cup with Bahrain or something big? and then he just gapped.

about 9 years ago

Trying to think of any other time in history that a championship side has plucked the head coach of a national side that plays 1.33 games per year and is ranked by FIFA in the 100s

If you believe that, you will believe anything.

Grumpy old bastard alert

about 9 years ago

It's part of a strategy.

1) Agent talks him up to media contacts (Derby, CCM, and now Norwich).

2) Forges record on wiki

3) Hope to perform well at Confeds and WCQ

4) Hope those performance get a little bit of notice (see: Reid after 2010 WC)

5) Potential clubs look at his 'record'  and that other clubs were 'interested'

about 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

It's part of a strategy.

1) Agent talks him up to media contacts (Derby, CCM, and now Norwich).

2) Forges record on wiki

3) Hope to perform well at Confeds and WCQ

4) Hope those performance get a little bit of notice (see: Reid after 2010 WC)

5) Potential clubs look at his 'record'  and that other clubs were 'interested'

Step 2 performed by the man himself, right?

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

about 9 years ago

one agent

one forgery

two hopes

Doesn't make a championship manager

about 9 years ago

CactusJones wrote:

Wow, as a Norwich supporter, I don't know what to think. 

Didn't he leave Bahrain at a very strange time to join us?

He qualified for Asian Cup with Bahrain or something big? and then he just gapped.

Makes sense, NZ is never going to do well at the Confederations Cup if you leave just before it though you have the story that you qualified and the team only failed because you weren't there.

about 9 years ago

I hope he does well at Confeds, gets a gig, leaves and signs Dyer to a 4 year deal.

about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

CactusJones wrote:

Wow, as a Norwich supporter, I don't know what to think. 

Didn't he leave Bahrain at a very strange time to join us?

He qualified for Asian Cup with Bahrain or something big? and then he just gapped.

Makes sense, NZ is never going to do well at the Confederations Cup if you leave just before it though you have the story that you qualified and the team only failed because you weren't there.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, but wasn't this the same case with Derby County and Mariners? Or was I delusional with the story? 

about 9 years ago

CactusJones wrote:

Ryan wrote:

CactusJones wrote:

Wow, as a Norwich supporter, I don't know what to think. 

Didn't he leave Bahrain at a very strange time to join us?

He qualified for Asian Cup with Bahrain or something big? and then he just gapped.

Makes sense, NZ is never going to do well at the Confederations Cup if you leave just before it though you have the story that you qualified and the team only failed because you weren't there.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, but wasn't this the same case with Derby County and Mariners? Or was I delusional with the story? 

The Sun, Norwich, Derby, Mariners. Old mate 'Arry 'avin a laugh. 2ndBest OTM. He left Bahrain abruptly, but Bahrain has a royal culture he probably cbf f'in with. Also it's hot and boring as sharke. If he's genuinely a contender at Championship or League One level, those jobs open up like clockwork, and he'd be silly to waste the stage that the Confeds Cup is.