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Gallop doing a press conference at 7pm, better grab the popcorn

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Couldn't figure out where to post it - mods feel free to redirect / repost.

Was pretty interesting if not exactly surprising Australia crashing out of the Asian Cup. Local (Aus) media are ripping them to shreds for not having decent strikers in the squad. They already had to resort to penalties to advance against Uzbekistan, and could not score against the mighty UAE and went down to a goal due to a pisspoor backpass to the keeper being intercepted. Expected more from Arnie to be honest.

Don't think Arnie coached Degenek to make that terrible back pass.

Socceroos goal scoring problems go way back, pre Arnold.

Some stat like when Cahill & Jedinak retired, they had scored basically 50% of Australia's goals for last 10 years or something. Neither was a striker.

Robbie Kruse has 5 goals in 75 appearances. Considering he burst onto the scenes with Victory as a goal scorer, he's been disappointing, at international level.

Mat Leckie a bit better with 9 goals in 61 games.

They would love to have the Woodsman.

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Surprising they did not call up Troisi or even Goodwin seeing that Mooy was injured (OK so Mooy is not a striker), but Arzani was also out.

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Tegal wrote:

Graham Arnold eyeing up the Hibernian job. 

Next thing we know, Kevin Muscat will be coaching Socceroos.

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Hyundai A-League-based players in Arnold’s squad will miss only one round (22) as the 2020 AFC U-23 Championship Qualifiers are being held in a FIFA window.

*One player from the 24-player squad listed below will be omitted prior to the qualifiers in Cambodia.

Australian U-23 National Team Squad | 2020 AFC U-23 Championship Qualifiers | 22-26 March (Phnom Penh, Cambodia)
Name Club, Country
Nathaniel ATKINSON Melbourne City FC, Australia
Keanu BACCUS Western Sydney Wanderers FC, Australia
George BLACKWOOD Adelaide United, Australia
Jake BRIMMER Perth Glory FC, Australia
Joseph CHAMPNESS Newcastle Jets FC, Australia
Nicholas D’AGOSTINO Brisbane Roar FC, Australia
Thomas DENG Melbourne Victory FC, Australia
Denis GENREAU PEC Zwolle, Netherlands
Alex GERSBACH NAC Breda, Netherlands
Thomas GLOVER (Gk) Tottenham Hotspur, England
Jordan HOLMES (Gk) St Mirren, Scotland
John KOUTROUMBIS Newcastle Jets FC, Australia
Abraham MAJOK Western Sydney Wanderers FC, Australia
Daniel MARGUSH (Gk) Adelaide United, Australia
Riley MCGREE Melbourne City FC, Australia
Tass MOURDOUKOUTAS Western Sydney Wanderers FC, Australia
Aiden O’NEILL Central Coast Mariners FC, Australia
Sebastian PASQUALI Ajax Amsterdam, Netherlands
Reno PISCOPO AC Renate, Italy
Harry SOUTTAR Stoke City, England
Ivan VUJICA Newcastle Jets FC, Australia
Lachlan WALES Melbourne City FC, Australia
Pierce WARING Cerezo Osaka, Japan
Brandon WILSON Perth Glory FC, Australia
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Cool. Round 22 for Nix is WSW 17th March?

No Mourdoukoutas, Majok or Baccus.

All started last game out for WSW verus Glory.

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Caltex Socceroos Squad | FIFA Window – June 2019 | Korea Republic Friendly

Name Club, Country A-International Caps (Goals)
Mustafa Amini Aarhus Gymnastikforening, Denmark 5 (0)
Terry Antonis Melbourne Victory, Australia 3 (0)
Aziz Behich PSV Eindhoven, Netherlands 35 (2)
Brandon Borrello SC Freiberg, Germany 0 (0)
Joshua Brillante Sydney FC, Australia 5 (0)
Thomas Deng Melbourne Victory, Australia 1 (0)
Craig Goodwin Adelaide United, Australia 3 (0)
Rhyan Grant Sydney FC, Australia 7 (0)
Chris Ikonomidis Perth Glory, Australia 12 (2)
James Jeggo Austria Wien, Austria 1 (0)
Matthew Jurman Al-Ittihad, Saudi Arabia 7 (0)
Mitch Langerak Nagoya Grampus, Japan 8 (0)
Awer Mabil FC Midtjylland, Denmark 9 (4)
Brandon O’Neill Sydney FC, Australia 0 (0)
Dimitri Petratos Newcastle Jets, Australia 2 (0)
Andrew Redmayne Sydney FC, Australia 0 (0)
Brad Smith Seattle Sounders FC, USA 19 (0)
Harry Souttar Stoke City FC, England 0 (0)
Matthew Spiranovic Perth Glory, Australia 35 (0)
Adam Taggart Suwon Bluewings, Korea Republic 8 (4)
Lawrence Thomas Melbourne Victory, Australia 0 (0)
Rhys Williams Al-Qadsiah FC, Saudi Arabia 14 (0)
Ryan Williams Rotherham United, England 0 (0)
Bailey Wright Bristol City FC, England 23 (1)
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I know the U20 WC is on, and yes NZF are short of cash/resources - but still seems another lost opportunity for the AWs not to play Socceroos as their 2nd game in this window.

Marinovic, M Boxall, Tuiloma, Wynne, Smith, Lewis, Rufer, Ridenton, Rojas, Barba, Wood is still a very useful starting eleven.

bench - Sail, Kyle Adams, Roux, Brotherton, Payne, Mcgarry, Musa, WeeMac, de Jong, Brockie, Collier

water boys - Thomas & Reid

Being a FIFA window MLS clubs would be forced to release their NZ players. Just one game, and at the moment MLS clubs with Kiwis get a free ride re FIFA windows. They could have no real complaints.

Lewis, Rojas & Brockie have all just come off light club seasons. Of non A League guys, only Wood you could agrue needs a rest.

Being Australia, and being so long since we played them even the Woodsman I'm thinking would have been keen.

Alas. Sigh

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How shark must Thomas be feeling, eh?

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I see Oz paying 6.00 at TAB for the win.

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Honestly think our  David Williams should be there rather than those other Williams fellas (well, at least Ryan - they need more cover upfront).

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And the Socceroos B team lose 1-0. By the sounds of it, no one put their hands up to replace any of the normal players.

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Oz were better team throughout, created more chances. Redmayne could have perhaps done better from the deflected cross. 

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Yeah seems was usual complaints that they lack a proven goal scorer. Mitch Duke did hit cross bar with a header.

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RR wrote:

Wow. That is big.  It will cost them a bit to attend, but in terms of testing yourself against top class opposition - priceless. Copa America is brutal, unlike Euro qualifiers, as there are very few "poor quality" teams.

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Absolutely amazing. Say what you will about the Aussies but they've been doing something right ever since they joined Asia

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Mainland FC wrote:

RR wrote:

Wow. That is big.  It will cost them a bit to attend, but in terms of testing yourself against top class opposition - priceless. Copa America is brutal, unlike Euro qualifiers, as there are very few "poor quality" teams.

Would they be going if they had to pay their own way? I imagine CONMEBOL will be footing the bill. 

Also, there's only a handful of poor (mainly tiny) European teams, EURO and WC qualifying in Europe can be very brutal. Just ask the Dutch and the Italians, to name a couple of recent examples. And surely Copa America won't be that brutal with the Aussies and an experimental Japanese side in it...

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el grapadura wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

RR wrote:

Wow. That is big.  It will cost them a bit to attend, but in terms of testing yourself against top class opposition - priceless. Copa America is brutal, unlike Euro qualifiers, as there are very few "poor quality" teams.

Would they be going if they had to pay their own way? I imagine CONMEBOL will be footing the bill. 

Also, there's only a handful of poor (mainly tiny) European teams, EURO and WC qualifying in Europe can be very brutal. Just ask the Dutch and the Italians, to name a couple of recent examples. And surely Copa America won't be that brutal with the Aussies and an experimental Japanese side in it...

in this year's COA, Japan just got a 4-0 spanking from Chile in Sao Paulo.

This year's other invitational team Qatar managed to hold Paraguay to a 2-2 draw.

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Japan did better against Uruguay a 2-2 draw. Suarez & Cavani still up front together.

Qatar lost 1-0 to Colombia yesterday.

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Okay not the Socceroos, but to wrap up the AFC invitational sides at this year's Copa America.

Qatar lose 0-2 to Messi & Co. Agüero with Argentina's 2nd.

Qatar 2 losses & a draw, and are out.

Japan play Ecuador in their final game tomorrow. Need a win to progress to the quarters.

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Japan draw 1-1 with Ecuador, to finish with a loss and 2 draws. 

Miss out on quarters to Paraguay (both 3rd in their pools) on GD. Heavy 4-0 loss to Chile cost them.

Socceroos chance to have a crack next year.

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Caltex Socceroos 23-Player Squad | 2-10 September 2019 | FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022™ & AFC Asian Cup China 2023™ – Preliminary Joint Qualification Round 2
Name Club, Country A-International Caps (Goals)
Mustafa AMINI AGF Aarhus, Denmark 6 (0)
Aziz BEHICH Istanbul Başakşehir, Turkey 36 (2)
Brandon BORRELLO SC Freiburg, Germany 1 (0)
Milos DEGENEK Red Star Belgrade, Serbia 26 (1)
Apostolos GIANNOU AEK Larnaca, Cyprus 10 (2)
Craig GOODWIN Al-Wehda, Saudi Arabia 4 (0)
Rhyan GRANT Sydney FC, Australia 8 (0)
Ajdin HRUSTIC FC Groningen, Netherlands 1 (0)
Jackson IRVINE Hull City, England 30 (3)
James JEGGO Austria Wien, Austria 2 (0)
Mitchell LANGERAK (Gk) Nagoya Grampus, Japan 8 (0)
Mathew LECKIE Hertha BSC, Germany 61 (9)
Massimo LUONGO Sheffield Wednesday, England 43 (6)
Awer MABIL FC Midtylland, Denmark 10 (4)
Jamie MACLAREN Melbourne City FC, Australia 13 (1)
Mark MILLIGAN Southend United, England 79 (6)
Aaron MOOY Brighton & Hove Albion, England 39 (5)
Andrew REDMAYNE (Gk) Sydney FC, Australia 1 (0)
Mathew RYAN (Gk) Brighton & Hove Albion, England 55 (0)
Trent SAINSBURY Maccabi Haifa, Israel 46 (3)
Brad SMITH Seattle Sounders FC, United States of America 20 (0)
Harry SOUTTAR Fleetwood Town, England 0 (0)
Adam TAGGART Suwon Bluewings, Korea Republic 8 (3)

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3-0 win in Kuwait

Leckie x2 and Mooy other goal

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3-0 up after 55 mins against mighty Nepal.

https://www.socceroos.com.au/match/australia-v-nepal-wc-qualifiers-10-10-2019/1081768

Australia (4-3-3): Ryan (GK); Behich, Souttar, Wright, Grant; Mooy, Milligan, Irvine; Goodwin, Maclaren, Leckie. 

Subs: Langerak (GK), Degenek, Smith, Jeggo, Patratos, Taggart, Borrello, Giannou, Amini, Hrustic, Mabil. 

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Finished 5-0.

Maclaren with a hat trick.

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Spanked Chinese-Taipei 7-1 in Taiwan

Scorers - Taggart 2, Jackson Irvine 2, new boy Harry Souttar 2 (Scottish with an Aussie born Mum) and Maclaren off the bench with one.

198cm Souttar (with Fleetwood Town in League One) had never been to Australia until last week.

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A 1-0 win over Jordan yesterday in Amman. 

Adam Taggart with the goal.

Only game in this window.

So far 100%, with 12 points from 4 games in 2nd round of AFC WC 2022 qualifying.

Kuwait at home & Nepal away in March 2020 window.

Iran in a possible spot of bother (Iraq & Bahrain ahead of them), only 3rd in their group with 4 games left. Winners of each group, plus best 2nd placed teams go through to 3rd round.

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RR wrote:

That is sad. Cancer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10442217/australia-south-korea-pim-verbeek-dies-63-cancer-battle/

Didn't always endear himself to some in Aussie Football.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Verbeek

His poor opinion of the standard of the A-League was well known, describing the performances of locally-based players Archie Thompson and Danny Allsopp against Indonesia as "absolutely hopeless" and openly questioning the decision of Jason Culina to quit PSV Eindhoven and return home to play in Australia.[5] When asked about possible improvements for the quality of football in the A-League, he said "Do you have an hour?" and "I am just being honest."[5]

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Wow he was their head coach not long ago.
He wasn't overly popular from memory but it's always sad when someone passes away so young.

My mother in law passed away at 65 - just as she started getting her pension. It sucks when you've been working for a lifetime and go just before you get to enjoy your retirement!!

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Wow he was their head coach not long ago.
He wasn't overly popular from memory but it's always sad when someone passes away so young.

My mother in law passed away at 65 - just as she started getting her pension. It sucks when you've been working for a lifetime and go just before you get to enjoy your retirement!!

My grandfather on my mum's side was dead a year after retirement. Hugely motivated my uncle (mum's younger brother) to invest hard to be an early retiree. He's then become a bit of a mentor for me to try the same.

Anyway back to Verbeek, yeah he wasn't overly popular in Australian football circles, for dissing the A League constantly ("watching a training session at a top league Euro club, is more valuable than watching an A League game for judging a player") and was also seen as having the Socceroos play in a conservative/'un Australian' way.

Trigger for then having Ange Pot, who thought very differently, picked as next Socceroos coach

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For want of any other place to put this, I see a big game in Japanese football this weekend.

Last round of J1 League.

Ange Postecoglou's Yokohama F Marinos (1st, 67 pts & GD +27) host 2nd placed Tokyo (64 pts & GD +20).

So would take an almighty choke by Marinos to not be crowned champions. On a 6 game winning streak, over a pressurised end to the season.

Think I read somewhere that Marinos compared to some of the other J1 clubs, have a sufficiently lower budget.

Finished 12th in his first season (2018) in charge.

Impressive club coaching record Postecoglou, surely up with the best to ever come out of Aussie.

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