France huh still work on the basis it's only wrong if you get caught
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The Irish still needed another goal to go through either way...and had plenty of time to do so.
Toughen up.
Toughen up.
Yeah, generally when one is 'robbed' they actually have something in their possession that is taken away from them. All Ireland had was a hope, the tie was still drawn at that stage.
Yeah, but that hope was what they had in their possession!
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Like I said, they had 20 minutes to score a goal and none of this would have mattered. Yet they managed to do diddly squat. Whose fault is that?
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If it had been one of our team we'd have probably done the same.
Interesting quote. One which I believe fully.
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Yeah. But a goal like that is killer for your confidence. Its that "it isn't our day" kind of vibe. Yeah, they had 20 minutes, not the 93 Liverpool got after the beach ball. That's totally different when a battling team like Ireland come up against an organised (generally!) French side.
Look, there's nothing they can do. What is done is done. Complaining isn't go to change it etc etc. I just think they have a reason to feel hard done by. They worked their arses off to get a goal in Paris, which they managed, and they probably would have kept a clean sheet if that hadn't happened. Would I have been celebrating if it was Ireland who did that? Yes. It's the luck of the Irish, my friends...
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Better $100 the Assistant Ref won't get selected for internationals for a long while, probably the ref as well.
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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And so they shouldn't. The looks on their faces said it all. They weren't interested in the appeals or consulting each other just in case. Makes one wonder about their part in the scheme of things.
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cheating bastard.
That's one of the worst things I've ever seen, but probably because the stakes were so damn high.
That's one of the worst things I've ever seen, but probably because the stakes were so damn high.
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France huh still work on the basis it's only wrong if you get caught
Henri's quote:
After the match, the Barcelona striker said Swedish referee Martin Hansson was the main culprit for not spotting the infringement.
�I will be honest, it was a handball. But I�m not the ref,� Henry
said. �I played it. The ref allowed it. That�s a question you should
ask him.�
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/henry-admits-handball/article1369038/
Im not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
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If it had been one of our team we'd have probably done the same.
Interesting quote. One which I believe fully.
Of course. He'd still have been a dirty cheat but he'd have been OUR dirty cheat. Which makes all the difference.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Imagine how we'd feel if a Bahraini had pulled that on us?chocnut2009-11-19 23:33:55
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erm it cost them a 50/50 shot at the world cup (via penalties),how can you say it doesnt matter. "you can cheat as long as the other team arent winning" ??
Allegedly
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"Hand of Frog". It does not surprise me coming from the French!! Maybe we need the video ref to review this, like most other sports .. especially with high stakes at the World Cup.
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I am sure that all the people complaining about it on here would not have given a flying f**k if one of our players had done the exact same thing last Saturday to get us to the WC.
Cheating is only a bad thing if it is done by the team you are not supporting.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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I hear Ireland are going to ask for a replay? Good luck...
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I'd hope that we were'nt put in that position.
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"Of course it is an easy decision to do the seedings," Keane told BBC Radio Five Live. "They're all probably clapping hands, Platini sitting up there on the phone to Sepp Blatter, probably texting each other, delighted with the result, with France (getting through)."- Robbie Keane.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=700545&sec=worldcup2010&cc=3436
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[QUOTE=El-Kun]
"Of course it is an easy decision to do the seedings," Keane told BBC Radio Five Live. "They're all probably clapping hands, Platini sitting up there on the phone to Sepp Blatter, probably texting each other, delighted with the result, with France (getting through)."- Robbie Keane.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=700545&sec=worldcup2010&cc=3436[/QUOTE]
if he hadn't missed the sitter that he did, it would not have been a problem.
Whingy little c**t
Frankie Mac2009-11-20 08:14:22All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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And to those saying Ireland dominated....
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Has anyone said Ireland dominated?
[QUOTE=Michael]Feel real sorry for Ireland who were the better team for most of the match.
First post. Try reading the thread next time.
I think it is fair to say that Rep of Ireland were the better team over the 2 games, as they created the only realy clear-cut chances in the tie - Lawrence in the first leg (ridicolous block by Evra), the goal Keane scored, Duff's one on one, Keane's one on one.
I really cannot think of anything that France created over the 2 legs - a terrible dive by Anelka, one deflected goal and a goal scored after a blatant handball aside. It is not saying Rep of Ireland dominated, but they were the better side and created by far the better chances.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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Yeah. But a goal like that is killer for your confidence. Its that "it isn't our day" kind of vibe. Yeah, they had 20 minutes, not the 93 Liverpool got after the beach ball. That's totally different when a battling team like Ireland come up against an organised (generally!) French side.
Sorry mate, but that's a cop-out. Succeeding in sport is all about overcoming adversity, not whining to high heavens about the injustice of it all. LIke I said, the Irish had 100 minutes prior to the handball to score another goal, and another 20 minutes after to do the same. They did not. If they had, none of this would have mattered. All I'm saying is, take some farken responsibility - it's the players who're in the best position to affect outcomes on the football field. If you were good enough, you had the opportunity to make a bad decision be irrelevant. You weren't. I repeat, whose fault is that?
And by the way, I'm not condoning what Henry did (nor do I codemn it). He did what he did (whether he deliberated on this in his head, or did it instinctively, or whatever), he got away with it, life goes on. el grapadura2009-11-20 08:26:37
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"Of course it is an easy decision to do the seedings," Keane told BBC Radio Five Live. "They're all probably clapping hands, Platini sitting up there on the phone to Sepp Blatter, probably texting each other, delighted with the result, with France (getting through)."- Robbie Keane.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=700545&sec=worldcup2010&cc=3436Ah even sweeter hearing Keane whining about the result!
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"If the World Cup draw were any more rigged, Hamid Karzai would be going to South Africa" - some blog commentor
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
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"Of course it is an easy decision to do the seedings," Keane told BBC Radio Five Live. "They're all probably clapping hands, Platini sitting up there on the phone to Sepp Blatter, probably texting each other, delighted with the result, with France (getting through)."- Robbie Keane.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=700545&sec=worldcup2010&cc=3436Is Keane going for sympathy and the (very very) slim chance that the Arsenal-Sheff Utd (iirc) Cup replay concept may be applied or is he just going off half-cock conspiracy world.
It amazes me how Ireland have conducted themselves with regards to public statements lately.
First they think FIFA are out to get them by seeding the playoffs - funny how when the exact same process was followed in 2006, the absence of any big teams didn't cause people to complain then but this time it just has to be a conspiracy.
Now he thinks the seeding doesn't follow a mathmatical algorithm and that the early years "seeding selection panel" approach still applies?
I feel for the Irish, but the idea that FIFA are out to get them is ludicrous and not borne out by the evidence.
SiNZ2009-11-20 09:31:16
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I am sure that all the people complaining about it on here would not have given a flying f**k if one of our players had done the exact same thing last Saturday to get us to the WC.
You're wrong Frankie. I would hate to have my team doing that. The process is more important than the result. Even the French public (70 plus % surveyed) are saying France don't deserve to make the World Cup this way.Cheating is only a bad thing if it is done by the team you are not supporting.
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The graphic from sports tonight on tv3
"Ireland's bad hand job".
As for all this nonsense that it denied Ireland a place at the world cup. Stupid.
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Surely FIFA must at least bring some sort of match ban against Henry for bringing the game into disrepute or something. If moss gets a ban for 4 matches surely this sort of blatant cheating merits some kind of repercussions. Cheating without consequences is surely not the message FIFA wants to be sending.
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Didn't he dive to win a pen in the semis (I think, against Portugal) at the last cup?
No.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Surely FIFA must at least bring some sort of match ban against Henry for bringing the game into disrepute or something. If moss gets a ban for 4 matches surely this sort of blatant cheating merits some kind of repercussions. Cheating without consequences is surely not the message FIFA wants to be sending.
Trying to lump this in with Moss being suspended (however harshly) for giving a referee a gobful doesn't really work. Different situation.
Interesting tho', suspending him would send a message that the referee got it badly wrong and that, therefore, the goal should not have stood. They butchered their attempts at hammering diving recently, so I wouldn't hold my breath for much action on this. Hmm, can of worms.
Ireland? Suck it up and move on.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Everyone knows the referee got it badly wrong they don't need to worry about sending that message because everyone allready knows. I'd be more worried about doing nothing and sending the message that cheating is acceptable
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Everyone knows the referee got it badly wrong they don't need to worry about sending that message because everyone allready knows. I'd be more worried about doing nothing and sending the message that cheating is acceptable
I agree. My point was that if they do publicly admit the officials screwd up then the legality of the goal is questioned and that raises questions about the result etc...
Bottom line is that, according to the Laws of the Game, "The decisions of the referee regarding facts connected with play, including whether or not a goal is scored and the result of the match, are final"
Doesn't leave FIFA, or Ireland, a huge amount of room to play with.
Jag2009-11-20 10:25:15Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Fifa have to act on henry, just frpom all the global publicity he has brought the game and sportsmanship into disrepute. Regardless of the result, the publicity has snowballed into a giant negative for Fifa to deal with.
Burying their heads in the sand might not make it go away as Fifa policy has been in the past.
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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Thierry Henry + Joel Griffiths = Both handled the ball and got away with it!
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I am sure that all the people complaining about it on here would not have given a flying f**k if one of our players had done the exact same thing last Saturday to get us to the WC.
You're wrong Frankie. I would hate to have my team doing that. The process is more important than the result. Even the French public (70 plus % surveyed) are saying France don't deserve to make the World Cup this way.Cheating is only a bad thing if it is done by the team you are not supporting.
I am sure that all those people who say that they don't deserve to go to the cup were still celebrating like mad when the goal was scored. It is very easy to be magnanimous when you have won.
Like I said, if one of the AW's did something like this last week, very few people on here (I am thinking only you if you genuinly feel what you have written) would be complaining about it. We might be saying we don't deserve to be there, but we would be f**king happy that we are.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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ireland want the game to be replayed, geez thats silly. cant just replay a game every time something untoward leads to a goal.
it was an unfair goal, but thats just part of sport, sometimes things happen which just arnt fair.
i see on some forums irish fans are angry that great britian went to france's aid during ww2. bit excessive
Downey262009-11-20 11:08:30
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Surely FIFA must at least bring some sort of match ban against Henry for bringing the game into disrepute or something. If moss gets a ban for 4 matches surely this sort of blatant cheating merits some kind of repercussions. Cheating without consequences is surely not the message FIFA wants to be sending.
So rather than moan, I've done something about it!!!
Feel free to join the movement folks, and if you have networks on Facebook, spread the word. A ban from FIFA for bringing the game into disrepute would be a highly appropriate outcome, given that is what Henry condemned the Irish to. Then again, he's a FIFA Ambassador, so any action by FIFA is highly unlikely.
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Surely FIFA must at least bring some sort of match ban against Henry for bringing the game into disrepute or something. If moss gets a ban for 4 matches surely this sort of blatant cheating merits some kind of repercussions. Cheating without consequences is surely not the message FIFA wants to be sending.
So rather than moan, I've done something about it!!!
Feel free to join the movement folks, and if you have networks on Facebook, spread the word. A ban from FIFA for bringing the game into disrepute would be a highly appropriate outcome, given that is what Henry condemned the Irish to. Then again, he's a FIFA Ambassador, so any action by FIFA is highly unlikely.
yea i think they should ban him for some matches, however, if the ref had seen it he would have got a yellow card and therefore not a ban so should he pay just for a refs mistake?
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yea i think they should ban him for some matches, however, if the ref had seen it he would have got a yellow card and therefore not a ban so should he pay just for a refs incompetence?
No.
E + R + O
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