Kiwi Players Elsewhere

Matthew Ridenton (Lions FC | Australia)

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over 12 years ago

“He is a terrific signing for the future but I wouldn’t be surprised if he landed a place in the starting line up before the season ends.”

All bodes well for Vinny.

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over 12 years ago

Can anyone confirm that this is the youngest squad we've ever had? We have a few over 30 for sure but a lot of under 23's.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 12 years ago

With Fenton, Rufer, Ridenton, Boyd, Caira ..and maybe Adams and Shermy, we have a great amount of potential for the next two-three-four seasons.

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Lonegunmen wrote:

Can anyone confirm that this is the youngest squad we've ever had? We have a few over 30 for sure but a lot of under 23's.

I'm pretty sure it would be by some margin. Whether the starting line up is is a bit trickier.


Sounds like a good signing. Look forward to seeing him play tomorrow.

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over 12 years ago

With Rufer & Ridenton, Ernie has a couple of the best young talents in NZ now. Time to see if he can help them fulfill their potential.

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over 12 years ago

Exciting prospect.

Loving the signing up of young NZ talent.

So much potential coming through.

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over 12 years ago

3 year contracts for Rufer and Ridenton clearly aimed at selling them later.

Year 1 = bench

Year 2 = start

Year 3 = sold

Good strategy.


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over 12 years ago

With Rufer & Ridenton, Ernie has a couple of the best young talents in NZ now. Time to see if he can help them fulfill their potential.

 

The U17s coach said on the pod this week that there are about five really good players in the squad this time round. I wonder who the other three are?

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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

3 year contracts for Rufer and Ridenton clearly aimed at selling them later.

Year 1 = bench

Year 2 = start

Year 3 = sold

Good strategy.



Year 4 = play for some crappy u21 youth side overseas
Year 5 = same as above
Year 6 = Return to ASB Prem


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over 12 years ago

Although Im being incredibly sarcastic I do think Ridenton, Rufer will end up doing well. More so than likes of Fenton/Boyd


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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

3 year contracts for Rufer and Ridenton clearly aimed at selling them later.

Year 1 = bench

Year 2 = start

Year 3 = sold

Good strategy.


 

better strategy for Nix than Rojas and Barbarousos..I do "worry" for young talent in NZ tho that signs for long periods and then isnt used but I dont think that will eventuate here.  More transition year in evidence...roll on 14/15

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 12 years ago
Boro4eva wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

3 year contracts for Rufer and Ridenton clearly aimed at selling them later.

Year 1 = bench

Year 2 = start

Year 3 = sold

Good strategy.


 

better strategy for Nix than Rojas and Barbarousos..I do "worry" for young talent in NZ tho that signs for long periods and then isnt used but I dont think that will eventuate here.  More transition year in evidence...roll on 14/15


Thats a hangover from Ricki Herbert. Merrick will no doubt give Rufer/Ridenton game time


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over 12 years ago

We really are modelling ourselves directly on Mariners aren't we - all the way down to trying to have an Academy team playing in Central League.


Not that there's anything wrong with that. If I was going to be a fan of any other A League club it would be Central Coast.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

We really are modelling ourselves directly on Mariners aren't we - all the way down to trying to have an Academy team playing in Central League.


Not that there's anything wrong with that. If I was going to be a fan of any other A League club it would be Central Coast.

Other clubs seem to be following their lead, Perth is in the process of doing similar and the Jets also if I recall correctly.
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over 12 years ago

With Rufer & Ridenton, Ernie has a couple of the best young talents in NZ now. Time to see if he can help them fulfill their potential.

Re potential unfulfilled, I wonder if he's ever seen or heard of Steven Carmichael? Scored a hat-trick for NZ Under -17's last time round v Uzbekistan, now almost off the radar at ACFC.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

We really are modelling ourselves directly on Mariners aren't we - all the way down to trying to have an Academy team playing in Central League.


Not that there's anything wrong with that. If I was going to be a fan of any other A League club it would be Central Coast.


Not a bad model. Small market club with limited crowd capacity and local corporates; coach who knows how to bring young players along and then sells them to keep funding their academy infrastructure. Had financial worries in recent past but probably only 1-2 seasons away from turning a profit. Looks like they will lose Arnie to Socceroos job though.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

We just need to figure out what to do about our far too big stadium.

We really do need a 20,000 rectangular stadium in future


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over 12 years ago

I'm old enough to remember Busby's Babes, what a team. This kind of investment in yoof can pay amazing dividends. Welcome Matthew!

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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over 12 years ago
TV wrote:

We just need to figure out what to do about our far too big stadium.

We really do need a 20,000 rectangular stadium in future


..or 20,000 people regularly turning up.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

I think the next bigger step for Phoenix is to become a club where the players want to play. Like Rojas wanted the move to Melbourne to develop further. You have a few of the best very young local  talent. More mature younger players who will be potential stars, like Rojas before he left the Nix, or Fenton, etc. All combined with a solid bunch f 'older' players, good coaching, nice atmosphere inside squad and a good brand of football. 

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over 12 years ago
number8 wrote:

I think the next bigger step for Phoenix is to become a club where the players want to play. Like Rojas wanted the move to Melbourne to develop further. You have a few of the best very young local  talent. More mature younger players who will be potential stars, like Rojas before he left the Nix, or Fenton, etc. All combined with a solid bunch f 'older' players, good coaching, nice atmosphere inside squad and a good brand of football. 


Have to at least upgrade facilities etc first though. On par with the top clubs in the A League then look at Stadium issue...


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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Lonegunmen wrote:

Can anyone confirm that this is the youngest squad we've ever had? We have a few over 30 for sure but a lot of under 23's.

Assuming:

- all ages are recorded as of 1 August of the year the season starts

- all contracted players (according to wiki) are included (includes injury cover, loans, international duty cover etc)

 

07/08 - 26 Years, 1 Month, 28 Days

08/09 - 26 Years, 9 Months, 25 Days

09/10 - 26 Years, 10 Months, 29 Days

10/11 - 26 Years, 11 Months, 7 Days

11/12 - 27 Years, 11 Months, 29 Days

12/13 - 26 Years, 4 Months, 0 Days

13/14 - 26 Years, 0 Months, 6 Days

 

 

So yes this is the youngest squad we have ever had.



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over 12 years ago

Not by as much as I thought it would be. Fair bit of work there.

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over 12 years ago

what position is he? 

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

Wiki missed out Gould, Webster, Clapham, Rowe and Imray. So will add those later



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over 12 years ago
Jerzy Merino wrote:

With Rufer & Ridenton, Ernie has a couple of the best young talents in NZ now. Time to see if he can help them fulfill their potential.

Re potential unfulfilled, I wonder if he's ever seen or heard of Steven Carmichael? Scored a hat-trick for NZ Under -17's last time round v Uzbekistan, now almost off the radar at ACFC.

Agree with this!

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

After adding in the missing squad members, believe it or not last season was actually the youngest average age with 25 Years, 11 Months, 1 Day.

 

Worthy of its own thread so will have a look at appearances and other things and create one



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over 8 years ago
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almost 8 years ago

<waits for the thread to be moved>

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almost 8 years ago

This happens with club that has no coach and two horrible seasons. He is a good young player and will be only better and stronger in the future. To bad we lost him. I wish him all the best.

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almost 8 years ago

This friggen sucks. NO one can say he didn't make an effort. At least he tried and never gave up. Rather have him than the likes of Rufer.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 8 years ago

Sucks but also may be awesome. As per other thread it shows the Nix can be a pathway 



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almost 8 years ago

number8 wrote:

This happens with club that has no coach and two horrible seasons. He is a good young player and will be only better and stronger in the future. To bad we lost him. I wish him all the best.

He's also not the finished article. No reason we can't re sign him in the future. And if wed had a great season he couldn't have started every game.

He's benefited from it too



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almost 8 years ago

Good to see another kiwi being signed as an import.

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almost 8 years ago

Very happy for him and moderately gutted not to have him around the Nix next season. He's no Iniesta, but at his age, with the experience he's getting, he could easily have been a big contributor to the Nix next year.

I'm afraid if we don't hurry the F up to sign a coach, we'll see the NZ U23 side with Krishna and a couple of Aussies and foreign journeymen play for tne Nix next season.


VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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almost 8 years ago

martinb wrote:

Sucks but also may be awesome. As per other thread it shows the Nix can be a pathway 

Not really the pathway we are aiming for though is it?

Normo's coming home

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almost 8 years ago · edited almost 8 years ago · History
All White Ridenton joins Newcastle Jets

Ozzy press hurting can't Put Phoenix in a headline

Another thing the Phoenix give to the A-League PLAYERS

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over 7 years ago

“I [first] signed Matthew as a 17-year-old at Phoenix,” Merrick said. “He is a similar player to Riley McGree – he can defend, he can play as a number ten, he can play as a number eight, he has good engines, he has played 70 games in the A-League already and is only 22.”

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5497494/a-league-ernie-merrick-defends-suspended-striker-as-jets-pre-season-takes-off/

Sound's like Matty is gonna play further forward for the Jets than we had him playing.

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