Michael McGlinchey (Weston FC | Australia)

That cannot be correct.  How could you argue that you have a valid contract for a player but it doesn't kick in for another 6 months?  Someone has to be paying him in between times

are they saying the loan deal was improperly finished or something?

So as an update:

There's two situations here isn't there? 1] The Japanese released him from their loan deal early so he would normally return to his parent club but 2] the parent club in between times has gone and been replaced with another entity that reissued contracts for everyone to sign for and Wee Mac hasn't signed his and therefore out of contract. Is that a fair assessment?

I agree that's what it originally looked like LG.  But if it really was that straightforward surely there either wouldn't have needed to be mediation, and/or any mediation wouldn't have needed to take as long as it so far has done.  The longer it goes on, the less likely it seems to me that he will actually play for us anytime soon (but I would be very happy to be wrong about this!)   

This is dragging on longer than an Emmerdale story line

CCM have just released Siep, if it was by mutual termination some if not all of Siep's contract could cover McGlinchey's under the cap until CCM have budgeted for his return in Jan.

Bullion

According to a Europe site and translated .."""  FC Emmen is already negotiating with defender Marcel Seip, who wants to continue his career in Drenthe.But before the deal is done, Seip must first get approval from his current club in Australia (Central Coast Marines), where he is under contract for two more years"""

If correct and the Mariners do want him to go it would free up a fair bit of our cap as he was one of the highest paid players in the squad... 

I think it would be a bit naive of the Mariners to let Seip go at this stage, if the intention was to free up space to potentially hold McGlinchy in. If they let Seip go, then failed to keep McG (Still up for debate) then what? 

Except of course if theyre letting him go to free up space for a 'new' signing.

Right there we go. Chur.

dompost this morning has WeeMac in the starting lineup.

Almost.... It is Phoenix (from)

Unofficial rumour ... but a reasonable source ...  The Mariners believe they will win any legal fight ... however are holding off a tad and looking for a replacement ... if they can find one they will let him go ... if not they will enforce what they see as almost an open and shut case... the rumour is they may be close to finding his replacement ... on the basic better to have a player wanting to play rather than forced to play... 

Regardless of the outcome CCM are knob ends.

Many thanks for your intelligent post .... it shows all your ability ...  

OK. Not knob ends.

Twunts

I lolled

I'd like to assume you were referring to the new owners in which case you'd get a large support group.

Am I the only one thinks that perhaps WeeMac should have stayed away from the Nix until all this is sorted? We all know if CCM kicks their heels in there will be a massive backlash which could have been avoided had he not already come over.

This seems a reasonable approach from CCM. Surely having weemac back is no longer a serious option given what's gone down, no matter who is right and who is wrong. 

I don't have any legal knowledge but what was all the hoopla about the players foundation (or whatever it's called) lawyers saying they would back McGlinchey and his right to sign for the Phoenix? Has this changed?

No, but their job is to advocate for WeeMac who is one of their members, not provide an objective authoritative ruling on anything.

The PFA told him he was right and could join the Phoenix so that is effectively his lawyers.

I don't understand why it would be so terrible to let McGlinchey play in these Football united games even if he ended up having to return to CCM. There is insurance coverage for injury and is little different in that regard than playing for the A-league "all stars". If CCM were negotiating in good faith I don't feel like they would block him in this rare opportunity. It's McGlinchey who is suffering the most over this and if he was going to play for CCM again they need to mend the relationship.

The clubs are similar in that everything is run on a shoestring budget and I do think CCM have been shafted over this (although partly thier own fault). I would be pretty pissed off if a similar situation happened to us but I now feel they are simply digging their heels in to be spiteful. 

wee mac will be very motivated to perform well whenever the nix play CCM. So am looking forward to that silver lining. 

But perhaps too will his former team mates.

But thats the problem - to the best of his and the Nix's knowledge he was off contract. If he thought he was on contract I have little doubt he wouldve reported straight back to Gosford for pre season training.

Just found this 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10303588/Merrick-nears-breaking-point-in-transfer-saga

Ernie Merrick has blasted the treatment of All White Michael McGlinchey as the player's Wellington Phoenix transfer saga rolls on.

McGlinchey is in a tug-of-war between the Phoenix, who want to sign him, and fellow A-League club Central Coast Mariners - who believe he is still under contract to them.

Clearly, McGlinchey was hoping he might be cleared in time for the Phoenix's historic 2-1 win over West Ham United last night.

But instead, his name was crudely scrubbed off the team sheet in ballpoint pen, and instead, hand-written into the official document next to Merrick as a Phoenix coach as to ensure he at least got to experience the match from the touchline.

Merrick, an extremely affable and balanced character, would not go into details when asked about the situation post-game last night.

However, Merrick did give the administrative hash causing McGlinchey to spend the last few weeks on the bench a rocket - branding the situation "appalling".

"I'll only say what I said prior to the match," Merrick said.

"The greatest disappointment for me... In fact, I'm appalled, at the lack of speed and decision-making for his situation.

"It's appalling he's been left in limbo for this period of time. I won't say anything else about it. There's no more comment on Michael.

"I have to say he was a very disappointed lad [to have missed the West Ham game]."

Assuming the McGlinchey deal goes through, Merrick also added his pre-season transfers are not done yet either.

"I still feel that I need another player that I can bring in who is very like Albert Riera. Albert continues to amaze me, he was quite outstanding."

Yeah but from CCM's perspective it makes little difference whether he thought he was on contract, all that matters is whether or not he actually was. If I fail to turn up to work tomorrow and I tell my employer that I thought I was no longer on contract, do you think they will care?

Sorry, I don't know the intimate ins and outs. I'm assuming McGlinchey has read his contract with CCM over and over again, and then made a decision based on that.

I don't know the intimate ins and outs either. And yes, I would also assume that McGlinchey has read his contract. But contracts are a complicated beast at the best of times, and does anybody actually ever read they "over and over again?"

You should..

Yes and no. The PFA definitely wouldn't issue legal advice if it was totally baseless, so given their public comments I'd be surprised if CCM have a case that's as solid as Midfielder's source claims. That said, the PFA coming out and publicly backing McGlinchey will also be a strategic move. The fact that this has dragged on for so long means that clearly there is almost certaintly a bit of grey area or room for interpretation, and the PFA/WeeMac/the Nix may have been hoping that by making public comments CCM would choose to reach a settlement. In other words, the PFA statement may have been a muscle flexing exercise.

Also, the advice the PFA told us about in the media may not be the advice they have communicated to WeeMac and/or the Nix privately. It wouldn't surprise me if their actual advice was that we have a good case but not one that is 100% bombproof, and therefore the best strategy is to go public and force CCM to settle.

Graham Arnold is in town.....maybe Ernie can have a chat to him about the finer points of wee macs loan deal to Japan and the directives of his CCM contract. just saying

So let me get this straight - 

The rumour apparently is about what CCM "believe", but as it is not even confirmed ('unofficial') so presumably nobody actually heard it.

It's rumoured that both sides believe they have a case. That's literally all we've got.

If they had a real open and shut case, it would've been sorted ages ago.

Yep. That goes both ways though.