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Tyler Boyd - USA (Los Angeles FC | USA)

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about 12 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

Just read this, I think its in his best interest if he choose's USA over NZ for national senior team selection. Plus he wont have visa issues playing in the MLS(if he was to go there).

Fk the AW's Im American!

Mr Positive

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about 12 years ago

Interesting, but also likely irrelevant. He'll never play for the USA, and if he decides to make himself eligible for them, it'll likely be no big loss, NZ football has a lot of depth in those wide forward positions atm and for the future.

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about 12 years ago

Like who?

Mr Positive

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about 12 years ago

Considering Boyd would either play up front or as an attacking winger of some sort, we have - Rojas, Smeltz, Brockie, Kosta, Ryan Thomas, potentially Howieson/Wood/Payne, even Fenton depending on how the new manager utilises them. Plenty of talent.

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about 12 years ago
Jesus Christ, why did he accept that interview? He looks like a young arrogant tool. Scores a goal after playing 30 odd games and the starts talking up all his options and hey look at me. Perhaps he may be better suited in America.



Auckland will rise once more

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about 12 years ago

I actually think just nobody cared to ask him before, if he had been asked that last year, I'd say he'd have said the same thing.

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You are probably right and the Journalist is a tool as well? He must be truely desperate for stories



Auckland will rise once more

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about 12 years ago

I don't think he sounds arrogant in that iv. Says that he's finding his confidence, and that he's fortunate to have a bit of pace. He comes across pretty well I reckon. 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago

Yeah I think it's a worthwhile article too, not too many people were aware of it, somewhat interesting due to his recent performances. At worst it's an item of newsworthy interest for some people.

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about 12 years ago

Oh lord. Non news story makes news. Boyd about 10th in the AW queue so makes him about 50th for Team America (**** yEAH!)


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about 12 years ago

Think it might just be a cry to try and get called up to the NZ full squad against Japan! Watch this space...

English based All Whites fan! Would love to watch an All White game one day.  

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about 12 years ago
UK_ALLWHITE wrote:

Think it might just be a cry to try and get called up to the NZ full squad against Japan! Watch this space...

 

I don't think Boyd is that cynical. There's a pretty obvious news story there though for the skin-deep Australasian football press. Kid does well two games in a row, kid hasn't played for national team yet. Speculate on his future in national team. Discover he's also American. Etc and so on.

Highly unlikely Boyd rang up Aiden at 442 and said "hey, you know what, I want to try to leverage the All Whites into calling me up...want to help with that?"

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago

he's still only 18, so he's got a long way to go. However I believe it'd be a long time before the US national team would take an interest in him, and even by then the all whites would have picked him already.

yung thug

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about 12 years ago
Royz wrote:

Just read this, I think its in his best interest if he choose's USA over NZ for national senior team selection. Plus he wont have visa issues playing in the MLS(if he was to go there).

Fk the AW Im American!


He wouldn't have visa issues if he wanted to play MLS if he chose to represent NZ... He has an American passport!





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about 12 years ago

Why would the US care? There might be probably hundreds of better players in the US college system alone, and then there's the MLS and everything else. And they're all playing on US soil under the noses of their own coaches. Unless he breaks into a top euro league in the next 2-3 seasons nobody over there is going to care. 

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about 12 years ago

As much chance of playing for USA as Rory Fallon had of playing for the senior England side (and he played international football for England at U16, U17, U18, U19 and U20 levels).

As a teenage player, it's good  that he has some ambition though...

But the reality is they have heaps of more talented young players eligible for the USA but have grown up overseas - funnily enough including German - American Terrence Boyd, Rapid Vienna first choice striker (22 goals in 50 games):

http://www.mlssoccer.com/24under24/news/article/2013/09/19/ranking-top-five-young-american-exports-across-pond

There are lots of young Americans these days at decent clubs around the world such as teenager Brek Shea at Stoke City:

 http://thewhistle.com/news/soccer/future-american-soccer-stars/963/#slide2

Young players at Liverpool, West Ham, Hoffenheim etc.: http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/soccerusa/id/1009?cc=3436

Best 24 young Americans in MLS (click on a player name for details): http://www.mlssoccer.com/24under24/2013/complete-list

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 12 years ago

If he makes the grade and is good enough to be a starter in the MLS in the future, good on him.  He will never play for them though as others have pointed out.

Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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about 12 years ago

Interesting that he's spent more time living in America than Nz.

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about 12 years ago

JV probably considers him an import


Auckland will rise once more

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about 12 years ago

JV probably considers him an import

Has residency and naturalised. Nope.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

JV probably considers him an import

Has residency and naturalised. Nope.

He's a kiwi - he was born here! No naturalisation needed.

This thread should be in the Wellington Phoenix Discussion along with the other threads about Phoenix players should it not?



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about 12 years ago

I think he knows he will only ever play for NZ, and never the US, but doesn't want to say that as he thinks saying he is undecided may induce a call up to the NZ team.

Fair enough though I would do the same if I was in his position.

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Wibblebutt wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Has residency and naturalised. Nope.
He's a kiwi - he was born here! No naturalisation needed.
Oh yeah. Doh.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago

think it's just a reporter finally tacking notice of the kid who has done weel the last few weeks -  did some researcha dn asked where Boyd wanted to play internationally.....actually good reporting - ie he did the research and asked relevant questions - as for Boyd's chances, unlikely he'd be even on the US radar playing in the a-league.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 12 years ago

Explains having a first name of Tyler, then.

I know, I know, its serious!

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about 12 years ago
Turfmoore wrote:

Explains having a first name of Tyler, then.

Good comment! Some names mark someone as American. We had a mini u-17 World Cup in Christchurch in 1998 building up to NZ hosting the real thing in 1999 with the USA joining NZ, South Africa and Tahiti in a tournament. US team players whose names I'll never forget (a couple are indeed world-famous now):
Delvin Countess (the US goalie)
DaMarcus Beasley
Landon Donovan
Seth Trembly
Kellen Kalso
Squad for the 1999 Finals in NZ: http://www.soccertimes.com/usteams/1999/oct27.htm

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 12 years ago

Some more names that can be considered "American""

Kasey Keller

Brad Friedel

Clint Dempsey

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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As an American (who currently calls Wellington home), i refuse to claim him until he gets a haircut. :D

I like the way he's playing for the Phoenix currently, sure, but as everyone else has pointed out, there isn't really any chance of him playing for the US, unless he makes an almost inconceivable jump. Solid player, and will be a good A-League/MLS player for a long time, IMO, but not a US international.

All our military bases in Germany are finally paying off with a nice crop of German-American players (:D), and we've got plenty of Mexican-American players to choose from as well, on top of all the other domestic talent.

Currently excited by Julian Green, an 18-year old German-American with Bayern Munich (mostly with youth team, though has had a few 1st team call ups, i think), though we could lose him to Germany (currently playing with with their U-19s).

Good for Boyd to keep his options open, though, and if he can leverage it into an AW call-up, more power to him.

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about 12 years ago

He will get an All Whites call up in the next few years. Smeltz, Killen & Fallon are near the end of their careers, there isn't many ahead of him in the queue.

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about 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Turfmoore wrote:

Explains having a first name of Tyler, then.

Good comment! Some names mark someone as American. We had a mini u-17 World Cup in Christchurch in 1998 building up to NZ hosting the real thing in 1999 with the USA joining NZ, South Africa and Tahiti in a tournament. US team players whose names I'll never forget (a couple are indeed world-famous now):

Delvin Countess (the US goalie)

DaMarcus Beasley

Landon Donovan

Seth Trembly

Kellen Kalso

Squad for the 1999 Finals in NZ: http://www.soccertimes.com/usteams/1999/oct27.htm



That was a solid squad. Donovan and Beasley as well as Ogechi Oneywu (sp?).
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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Jesus Christ, why did he accept that interview? He looks like a young arrogant tool. Scores a goal after playing 30 odd games and the starts talking up all his options and hey look at me. Perhaps he may be better suited in America.




That sort of attitude has never really been one that American soccer players have had, so not sure where that is coming from. Eddie Johnson had a bit of  it recently with his "pay me" antics in Seattle, but that is about it. American soccer players, given the status of the sport in the country for so long, are generally not the types that you would ever describe as "arrogant." They aren't a bunch of NBA-players masquerading as soccer players. :D
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about 12 years ago

i assume no one asked him about his international intentions when he was selected for the new zealand A side or the under 20s?

360footballnews.com

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about 12 years ago

I'm not sure he's thought this through

Normo's coming home

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about 12 years ago
james dean wrote:

I'm not sure he's thought this through

200% this.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago
james dean wrote:

I'm not sure he's thought this through


I don't see anything wrong with what he's saying. He's just saying he has the option to play for the US if they want him to. It's obvious to all that they won't, but nothing wrong with reminding NZ football he's keen to play for the AWs.



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about 12 years ago
NixCrewCross wrote:
[quote=AucklandPhoenix]Jesus Christ, why did he accept that interview? He looks like a young arrogant tool. Scores a goal after playing 30 odd games and the starts talking up all his options and hey look at me. Perhaps he may be better suited in America.




That is really unfair.

Sam Worthington picked up on a 442 article from a few weeks ago. A reporter noticed Boyd had USA citizenship and asked him about his status. So Worthlesston needed to fill his sports stories weekly quota and rehashes a second hand  story. We all know what the press are like. They take an off the cuff remark and turn it into a headline. I find it extremely unlikely that Boyd said he is hanging out to play for the USA first team. He would realise that it virtually impossible from where he is at the moment. More likely he was asked if it would be cool to play for the USA and he said "yeah"

The kid has learned a valuable lesson in dealing with the press. You will be misquoted and they will always have an angle.
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about 12 years ago

Go for it!

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 12 years ago
Wibblebutt wrote:
james dean wrote:

I'm not sure he's thought this through


I don't see anything wrong with what he's saying. He's just saying he has the option to play for the US if they want him to. It's obvious to all that they won't, but nothing wrong with reminding NZ football he's keen to play for the AWs.


He's played for the U20s so if he's not keen to make himself available for NZ then perhaps that might have been the time to raise it.  

The reason I said he hasn't thought this through is either he thinks he has a chance to make it with the USA, which I think we'd all agree is a little over-ambitious considering where he's at in his career, or he's trying to force the hand of NZF, which I personally don't like, or he's just been a bit naive, which I think is probably the case.  

He says it's going to be a hard decision but really it's not when one country isn't going to pick you.

Normo's coming home

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about 12 years ago

I know a few players that had played for one nation over another, Then never got selected again (ever). This may happen to Boyd if he was to be selected to play for the USA in a friendly as what others here have stated = The USA have a lot of talent all over the world and in better leagues then Boyd just waiting for call ups to the senior squad. 

Mr Positive

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