The Dominion Post

I wonder if he thinks servers, website maintenance and bandwidth come for free.......

Maybe Dom Post want to put up the $1200 for our freestyle comp (that got rained off at great expense)? Or maybe they can reply when I email them asking to publicise it?

As he was in the BackBencher pre-game yesterday, in the Fever Zone, and knows who pretty much all of us are would it have hurt him to wander over and ask us?

Anyway. Meh.

David Cross - https://twitter.com/the_Nighthawks

(Updated for transparency)

Its a fan group pure and simple and some people have chosen to give it a bit of 'organisation' (read: shambles)

No one is forced to sign up, no one is forced to pay anything. I would hazard a guess that pretty much everything is done on a volunteer basis to give others enjoyment and any cash that comes in from merchandise etc, covers costs and thngs like server maintenance, domain registration, bandwidth. The podcast equipment broke - who pays for the fixing of that?

What a dickhead. Why does something that we enjoy have to be pulled down by an article like that. So what if the 'YF exec' happen to make $20k each. It does not bother me in the slightest and would not begrudge them that for the time and effort put in.

This guy should focus on writing an article thats about a real issue.

Some people here got stuck into Worthington's character assassination on Herbert and now his mate (boss?) is sticking up for him with name calling.  Almost predictable, certainly embarassing. 

No one should be surprised by Fairfax though.  Surprised they haven't bugged the Fever guys phones.

QFT.

can everyone pls disclose their real identity after each post.

cheers

Greenie

My wife got involved in that whole Twilight movie shit (do not get me started) and she participated in their online forum. They did little 'membership' cards and crap like that but she did not pay anything. They used to organise massive screenings of the films when they were released and all went along paying to the cost of going etc. I think she paid something like $80 each time. Now $80 to go to the movies seems quite excessive but as she said, its not about the money, its about the enjoyment I get from being involved. If someone running the thing makes a dollar out of it, I'm not fussed. Its called 'contribution' and much like software releases that are free on the interwebs sometimes call for a donation or contribution, there is no 'if I give you this cash as a contribution, you have to tell me exactly where every penny went' thing and I feel this place is much the same. How many people have stated they purchased the app or the fever card simply to give a donation to YF.

Eventually (for anyone that cares) it all fell apart because groups of women bitch and they bitch hard (harder than Steve-O on here) but the general principle crossed over to what we do here and remains much the same. 

I blame Edward Snowden.

Ricki Herbert

Hi, my real name is Sheila Incognito, my hobbies include goalkeeping, prog rock, and telling Dom Post journos to piss up a rope.

More seriously, Dave Burgess was one of those guys who kept hounding Terry long after he'd gone bankrupt, right?

My name is Sam Worthin....fuck

Does anyone actually care who I am?

Benjamin Button

What. A. F*ckwit.

Language lads.

Also something about feeding a troll.

(and cross reference Patrick's definition of blog/opinion piece, post #433)

The difference is (as Dave NZ noted on the articles comments section and HN noted) he literally hangs out with all those guys every week and does not go 'hey lads....' I mean that is like taking out a full page advert asking the wife whats for dinner tonight when you could have text her or asked her when you were leaving in the morning. It is just being xxxxx for the sake of it.

Some good lolz going on in here. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23YFSpendUp&src=hash&f=realtime

I liked his wording of "they get to" do this and that. As if theyre some things that other people don't get to do, rather than something you give up your precious free time to do that we all enjoy. 

Prat. 

You've repeatedly asked for help from people for various things, so its not some exclusive thing that shareholders have and others are excluded from, like he is making out.

Twat. 

Has he relied to any of the comments on his blog?

I'm sure you're welcome to contribute in some way to make things better. RR does the tipping comp, which has now become a cool TAB competition within it. I shambolically contribute by organising the fever trophy manager competitions. Different people contribute different things to the fever, some may do more than others for sure, but I think its a bit cheeky of you to stand up and tell others to rise and make things better, when all you generally do is criticise and complain to those who do contribute, without really contributing anything yourself. 

So maybe take up your challenge, and rise to it. 

You also have to wonder if it is in response to 2Bs complaint about that article last week. 

After reading that I think that maybe it's actually a postmodern critique of subcultural identities within the bland capitalist, post-industrial Western European Anglo-Saxon settler-colony monoculture. The author asks some deep and disturbing questions of his audience: what constitutes membership of a social group? How is your identity constructed in a sea of competing narratives? Is membership of said social group only meaningful in relation to other social groups?  Is Dave Burgess being a massive f*cking troll? Is it possible to be authentic in an age where hipster irony has become ubiquitous? Who truly owns anything once it is in the public domain? Is there any such thing as a 'real person' behind socially presented personas or are the people themselves merely the sum of their socially-presented personas? Is professional sport a shameless money-grabbing exercise on behalf of a cynical elite or the last bastion of tribalism in a homogenous urban social landscape? Are fervent supporters of sports teams engaging in harmless fun or reinforcing dangerous stereotypes of aggressive masculinity?

Dave Burgess is the new messiah.

Inspired by his teachings, I meditated on my selfishness last night. 

In the interests of openness, here is a list of the things that I get to do that none of you underlings will ever get to do:

+ I get to organise events that nobody turns up to, and then get it in the ear from bar owners, sponsors, and the few people there about how nobody turned up/the venue was wrong/the beer was too expensive/the weather was bad.

+ I get to spend my own money travelling around the country to check out bars and facilities so that the few people who do turn up have a better time. Current tally for season 2013/14 approx $1300 spent going to away game venues prior to away games for this purpose.

+ I get to liaise with the club on how things could be better for fans, and then get it in the ear when the club doesn't listen, or when someone's particular point about the seats in Row J of Aisle 32 being a different yellow isn't actioned.

+ I get to do things for free for people who get paid to do them for a living.

It's hardly glorified.

I couldn't begin to calculate the amount of time and money I've sunk into the Fever over the last 6 years or so. It's totally Hard News's fault too, he was the guy that got me involved. 

It is great fun though, because of the people in it. 

Burgess can eat my d. He's only posted that lame-ass blog because we filed a Press Council complaint about Sam Worthington's shoddy journalism. It's pure spite.

^YES

Passion!! Emotion!! I love it.

Eat my small dick too Dave.

I might send him a calender invite to the next time we put the banner together.

If he showed up, that would be awkwardly fantastic.