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Completely agreed with Sam's opinion piece on the back page of the paper today. Possibly the first time that has ever happened.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/6243507/Its-time-Herbert-realised-old-guard-isn-t-firing
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patrick478 wrote:
Completely agreed with Sam's opinion piece on the back page of the paper today. Possibly the first time that has ever happened.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/6243507/Its-time-Herbert-realised-old-guard-isn-t-firing


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first tiome for everything, but I think Sam's gspot on with this piece.
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theprof wrote:
first tiome for everything, but I think Sam's gspot on with this piece.
Yep, he's defo got his finger on the button this time...
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SW is doing some good stuff at the mo. Keep it up
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I think they have realised they may kill a cash cow and now playing fair with new owners.
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I just think that they were never on an anti-phoenix bandwagon per se, some were on a Serepisos witch hunt, and others were playing the media's favourite game of creating scandal instead of reporting news.
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I've already posted this link in the Brisbane match thread but worth highlighting any positive editorialising from the Dom Post I think...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/sean-plunket/6364689/How-Gareth-got-me-to-support-the-Phoenix


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It�s the old what goes around comes around routine.
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Hamish Bidwell, Jonathan Millmow and Toby Robson writing nix articles.  Has Sam Worthington been given the sack or on holiday?

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/6534040/Reality-is-boom-or-bust-for-us-fickle-fantasists

"Look at the Wellington franchises. We might all suffer from yellow fever if the Phoenix actually win something, but the reality is boom or bust. And how many are going to turn up to follow the Canes this season?"
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George Kostanza wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/6534040/Reality-is-boom-or-bust-for-us-fickle-fantasists

"Look at the Wellington franchises. We might all suffer from yellow fever if the Phoenix actually win something, but the reality is boom or bust. And how many are going to turn up to follow the Canes this season?"


nice random segue to Balotelli's shenanigans there
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Thanks again Fred Woodcock for striking the right balance in your article on Tim Brown leaving the Nix and football. Another good read

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/6641637/Unassuming-Brown-announces-next-move
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Dear Sam,

For every stone that you place, is an equal weight lifted from elsewhere?

 

www.stuff.co.football/

 

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/phoenix/7613242/India-tour-good-bonding-for-Phoenix

Ifill suggested fans can look forward to a more adventurous approach from the Phoenix this season after

they trialled "knocking the ball around a bit more".

 

With the goal-on touchline law coming in, sensible.

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/phoenix/7629212/Star-Sydney-signing-good-for-Phoenix

The former Italy and Juventus forward will likely play against the Phoenix in their A-League opener on October 6 after signing a two-year deal with Sydney FC worth a reported A$4 million (NZ$5.1m).

"He's not the sort of signing we're looking at, it's not our model," Dome said. 

"That sort of money could do a lot for football in this country."

 

In the Pannett style.

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In the DP "Capital Day" section today:

"The Phoenix football star (Ifill) laughed over the new Phoenix supporters' T-shirt which carries the slogan: 'Keep Calm and Pass to Ifill", but wouldn't be photographed in front of it because he felt it might be disrespectful to his team-mates."

  1. Good work DP
  2. Ifill is awesome.

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what the f*ck is this retard even doing writing about football;

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/7920733/Phoenix-need-a-marquee-central-midfielder


back four 'too flat'? what the hell? go back to rugby with your misinformed terminology


'release manny muscat to return to right back' 

ever done any research?


suggests danny hay be bought in? Again, research please? like he and herbert would work together...


Advises that a midfielder needs to be bought asap, to 'turn around' the season... ever heard of a transfer window? It's pretty common knowledge among people who know about football...


and i havent even mentioned the grammatical errors, they seem to be standard fare for lazy journalists these days i guess




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He also wrote this

  • Ryan Nelsen's Road to the World Cup with Tony Smith
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mark reason bringing the lols this morning


Apparently ifill should be a holding midfielder, and only managers who were once forwards can get their teams to play attacking football. Tell that to arsene wenger, former centre back.


why do these people get commissioned to write about football? 


edit: some more examples:


Guardiola, former defensive midfielder

Vilanova, midfielder (with minimal goals)

Brendan Rodgers, defender


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I had a good rant about the piece on my twitter.

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but seriously guys, Mark has a point -

If Ricki wasnt so deluded, he would just shift Lia to LB and we would become as good as Man Utd.

 Its so obvious

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Some of the comments on the article are even worse that the article itself.

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a4design fighting the good fight - is that one of you?


just posted my comment

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He's a journalistic troll. So annoyed everytime I click on a link and see that it's been written by him. Don't want to add comments as that just feeds the troll imo.

Listen here Fudgeface
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hlmphil wrote:

He's a journalistic troll. So annoyed everytime I click on a link and see that it's been written by him. Don't want to add comments as that just feeds the troll imo.


I just ripped his article apart, rather than feed him.
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patrick478 wrote:
hlmphil wrote:

He's a journalistic troll. So annoyed everytime I click on a link and see that it's been written by him. Don't want to add comments as that just feeds the troll imo.


I just ripped his article apart, rather than feed him.

Yeah fair enough. Not hassling you for doing so, but I have this theory that due to the fact that online advertising is key, these journalist trolls rely on hits and comments, and will do anything they can to stir up either of these two. Thus any comment is a good comment for them, regardless of what is says. If that makes sense?

Listen here Fudgeface
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hlmphil wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

hlmphil wrote:

He's a journalistic troll. So annoyed everytime I click on a link and see that it's been written by him. Don't want to add comments as that just feeds the troll imo.


I just ripped his article apart, rather than feed him.

Yeah fair enough. Not hassling you for doing so, but I have this theory that due to the fact that online advertising is key, these journalist trolls rely on hits and comments, and will do anything they can to stir up either of these two. Thus any comment is a good comment for them, regardless of what is says. If that makes sense?

I think you are absolutely right. I ripped him apart in a Letter to the Editor though, I really hope it gets published tomorrow.
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Also, Adblock Pro FTW. I don't see a single ad on the internet at all, and Stuff won't get any money from advertisers because of me. Winning.

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What. Did. I. Just. Read. Lia to left back and ifill switching to DM. Amazing stuff. 

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One guy said "you'll only get 2 or 3 scores in the whole match". I've never understood this argument from rugby folk, you get exactly the same amount of tries in a rugby game. Just because they're worth 5 points instead of 1, plus the opportunity to watch a guy stand there for 3 minutes kicking a ball between posts for 2 or 3 points, doesn't make it more exciting. 

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Just FYI yes the column is trash but unfortunately it's not just in the Dom Post, it's basically in all Fairfax publications, just saw on Twitter some people ripping into the Dom Post only, not really their choice to publish it.

Ifill as a DM, good grief.....

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patrick478 wrote:

Also, Adblock Pro FTW. I don't see a single ad on the internet at all, and Stuff won't get any money from advertisers because of me. Winning.

Never heard of that before. Something to look into!

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Tegal wrote:

One guy said "you'll only get 2 or 3 scores in the whole match". I've never understood this argument from rugby folk, you get exactly the same amount of tries in a rugby game. Just because they're worth 5 points instead of 1, plus the opportunity to watch a guy stand there for 3 minutes kicking a ball between posts for 2 or 3 points, doesn't make it more exciting. 


Anything on stuff always draws ridiculous comparisons with rugby and a bunch of suggestions to 'improve' football. Someone else in there said they should have 30 minutes halves because somehow that would make it more exciting, wtf? He forgets that a lot of goals in football are scored in the last 20 minutes when everyone's knackered and fresh attacking legs are on.

Comparing sports is such a waste of time yet a large group of NZ rugby supporters stick at it. 

Their main criticism of football is the lack of scoring, yet they don't seem to realise the fact that it's much easier to use your hands to get a ball past a 50 metre line than to use the rest of your body to get it into a small box. 

Love my rugby but some of the other supporters are tiresome
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hlmphil wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

hlmphil wrote:

He's a journalistic troll. So annoyed everytime I click on a link and see that it's been written by him. Don't want to add comments as that just feeds the troll imo.


I just ripped his article apart, rather than feed him.

Yeah fair enough. Not hassling you for doing so, but I have this theory that due to the fact that online advertising is key, these journalist trolls rely on hits and comments, and will do anything they can to stir up either of these two. Thus any comment is a good comment for them, regardless of what is says. If that makes sense?



I mentioned that in my response to him, which hasn't appeared yet
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My letter to the editor about all of this got printed today apparently. 

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