Clayton Weatherston

Clayton Weatherston

Preventative Detention without Parole would be too good for this arrogant twat murderer 

Gangsta!2009-07-14 22:39:51

Alleged murderer

Proven twat 

 

Complete and utter twat! How he can sit up there and say some of the things he does with the victims family sitting in the gallery is completely beyond me.

link?

I knew it was a few but 216?!

Gee that'll do it..

KP go on www.stuff.co.nz , trial is going on in CHCH atm, updates happening all the time. Gangsta!2009-07-15 10:58:02

Is this prick for real?

She allegedly forced him to do it - Yeah Right.

^ first year law student?!

I would have thought a manslaughter defence expires after the first stab. The next 215 stabs are pretty much about trying to kill someone aren't they?

He should go down just for that haircut.

5th year law student, I agree he is drawing a long bow to argue provocation but I think the media have done a pretty bad job at explaining what exactly he is trying to argue

What's worse is the mutilation of the corpse that the press can't/won't report.

From what I've been told that's in govt dept reports on what he did to the body he's a very sick sick individual.

I heard on the news that he mutilated her "beauty spots", eg her nose, her stomach, breasts, genitals etc etc.

yeah I'd be ok with him claiming the provocation I snapped and stabbed her ples if he stabbed her once. It must take a fairly long time to stab someone 216 times, cut off her ears, and mutilate other parts of a person's body. If you snap and do something in the heat of the moment, usually you calm down and realise what you've done...he on the other hand snaps, stabs her, seems to have enjoyed it and carried on?!? that concerns me if he manages to get a way on the manslaughter plea.

Didn't he mention that one aspect of his frustration with her is she said he had small genitals/he thought he had small genitals and was envious of other men she'd been with?  I didn't read all of the article but it had something like that on stuff.co.nz.  So basically the whole nation knows he has a minute package.

With the whole stabbing thing, I could see someone 'snapping' and stabbing someone once, maybe a couple of times, but 216?

When in Prison, I hope doesn't get a job in the Kitchen. Everyone will be looking over their shoulders

If i remember rightly The t.v reckons(because i believe almost everything the telly tells me) he went there with a knife so unless he slipped and stabbed her isn't there some form of pre meditation there to want to commit the crime in the first place so manslaughter wouldn't apply ??

If a defendant bought a knife with him to see his girlfriend with the intention of trying to intimidate her (and nothing more) but things got drastically outt've hand and he ended up stabbing her, would manslaughter be an option in that case?

No.

He is a f**king freak.
But unfortunately, he does have the grounds to plead not guilty to Murder.
No matter what people think of him (Including the jury) he has the right to a fair trial (Unfortunately)

Quick definition of Manslaughter.


Manslaughter is. The unlawful killing of a human being without malice or premeditation, either express or implied; distinguished from murder, which requires malicious intent.

It also differs from murder in this, that there can be no accessaries before the fact, there having been no time for premeditation. Manslaughter is voluntary, when it happens upon a sudden heat; or involuntary, when it takes place in the commission of some unlawful act.

The provocation which reduces the killing from murder to manslaughter is an answer to the presumption of malice which the law raises in every case of homicide; it is therefore no answer when express malice is proved and to be available the provocation must have been reasonable and recent, for no words or slight provocation will be sufficient, and if the party has had time to cool, malice will be inferred.

In cases of mutual combat, it is generally manslaughter only when one of the parties is killed. When death ensues from duelling the rule is different, and such killing is murder.


It can all be quite confusing.

Clayton acted Involuntarily to a Sudden Heat situation. (Attacked by girlfriend, feared for his own life)

Clayton says that the reason that he was so stressed was because of her being so demanding, abusive and because he felt enslaved by her. Based on this alone, he did would have committed murder.
    -   "For no words or slight provocation will be sufficent"


But because he was (Apparently) being attacked by her at the time of the killing, and was provoked, it can be classed as manslaughter.

All that said, he is a nut job and deserves to rot away in solitary confinement.



NOTE: My views do not reflect that of NZ Police.
Stefan2009-07-15 21:02:27

Thanks Mr. Police 10-7

All in a days work.
Now excuse me while I post it note another desk..

This is iffy - if he was attacked by her, he surely would have used self-defence strategy? If you are attacked and are in genuine fear for your life, you're allowed to defend yourself using every force at your disposal. If he could demonstrate that he was attacked he surely would have gone that way.

I think his defence rests on the idea that she 'demeaned' him over the course of their realtionship, which given his 'delicate' and 'unique' psychological make-up, eventually drove him to react with excessive force following another argument which inadvertantly resulted in girlfriend's death. And her mutilation, coz that kind of stuff just happens all the time.

Oh, and yes. He has a small penis.

One word - mutilation.

Game over, sicko.

GUILTY!!!
MURDERER!!

What I find even more disturbing than this case itself is this evolving trend of televising the accused person live, in court.

Where this happens there is surely the danger of
 (a) providing unhealthy and unnecessary publicity, a platform for a potentially psychotic and dangerous person to captivate an audience and receive the attention he or she craves
 ..and

(b)the resultant publicity attracting other marginalised individuals to do similar or equally disturbing "copy-cat" crimes to achieve the same fame/notoriety.

Used to be,(and in some cases it is still done)  court stories were purely the reporter telling the story sometimes with the assistance of drawings and or diagrams.
 Now, in their efforts to capture more audience and ratings, tv news is stepping over the sensibilty line,imo.

Well I think he's cute. Oh wait, i'm thinking of Peaches Geldof...

If you stab someone 227 times your guilty, if you were made to do it after the 2nd stab you would stop, imo.

 

 

Because when they bash you or whatever and go to jail you get fark all  when they get to jail and get beaten up themselves they get a payout that's farked up, they eat better than most of the people they've offended against.
I always find it funny how a criminal knows his rights but doesn't care about the rights of his/her victims
giddyup2009-07-18 06:41:42

Criminals in Prison have more human rights anmd civil liberties than the joe average law abiding person in the street. Since when did we have the right to take someone elses life and remain protected? Criminals are the most selfish members of our society whom never think of any other person, it's all about "Me".