Dear Ignorant people....

Dear Ignorant people....

If over the next week, you find yourself saying any of the following Mr_Incredible2011-01-31 21:49:40

What about if it falls in the weekend?

I'm going to avoid writing any stories about Waitangi Day. My inbox will thank me.

I have noticed that comments sections on stuff are getting stupider and stupider.

Because the standard was always high.

Stuff is stupid.

Stuff is racist.

ha well no.  but still think it is getting worse.  Case in point..."Take a look at what we are really paying here - 15% GST + 33% on our salaries depending on what you are earning, that's 48%!"

Hur hur hur youse r all f*gg*ts.  We r paying 2 much tax.  Bl**dy maoris ruing the country.

While I agree, Daniel, how does the treaty help white people?  (Again, not stirring, just don't know).

I THINK, from my small knowledge of the treaty, it kind of helped Pakeha more than Maori from the crap translation. It gave the crown sovereignty over everything, and gave Pakeha privileges that Maori didn't get to receive, saying that they both have the same rights, but Pakeha only got the privileges.
Something like that, I studied at some point in my life.

Oi, you whities can shut the f**k up!

Fair enough.

I for one am looking forward to celebrating C-Diddy Day!

Oh, by the way, I have a pretty fair understanding of what the day means even though I am a West Islander and my thoughts are that more should be done to protect NZ's rich cultural and indigenous heritage.

N.Z is going to go down the sh*tter, you heard it here first.

has been for many years, if your that worried you should have jumped ship years ago

rot sets in approx 1975

although why live anywhere else? Aotearoa is great.
Just should be better

Are you a university student by chance ?  a young university student maybe?

Dan at University.  Amusing.

You could always listen to another radio station, or do you not like it when others disagree with your own opinions?

After hearing about that Iwi charging broadcasters to cover Waitangi day..

how about..

"Waitangi day is just a/another day for Maori to make money"

Are you trying to be PC, dan?
I don't care for Waitangi day much. Especially when you get people attacking politicians shouting "Give us our land back!"

Waitangi day doesn't really feel like a day to celebrate anyway if you think of what it was really about.
We need a New Zealand Day, that way we can celebrate being New Zealanders.

Sounds better than... "A day to celebrate the signing of a treaty between New Zealand Iwi and the Queen in which Maori agree to hand over most of their land"
Yay! How fun is that!!

Ive never felt like Waitangi day is a very important day. My guess is that most of New Zealand only sees it as another day off. Except to some Maori and Politicians.

News coverage seems to only be Politicians meeting with Iwi at a tribe, a bit of angst between Maori and Politicians, and "Distinguished guests".

Call me racist, But when I am stopped from exploring my own country (Beaches, mountains and buses) I lose respect for the local Iwi, politics and if it has anything to do with it, The treaty of Waitingi. Im not going to pay a "Koha" to walk through a part of bush your ancestor used to have reign over. I bet he didn't charge people to be there. Same with beaches, Nobody should own a part of the Natural NZ coastline. You didn't own it, your ancestors just lived there.
I say all this because I have been stopped from going places because the land is "Maori Owned". And it f**ks me off.

Dont get me wrong. I dont hate Maori, some of my best friends are Maori.
Its just that the ones who do those things really piss me off.

Im not sure what I was really trying to say there.Stefan2011-02-02 22:04:38

Oooh! This fred has got interesting...

Please, discuss.

Haha. But seriously, who cares? It's just another day off. The only people who care massively about this are some Maori (like, the militant ones) and politicians trying to curry favour with the Maori vote.

I also know that im not the only person who thinks those kind of things.
Just come out and say it... Go on...

Particularly Romanians.

Oh start a Hikoi

Alright, I'll bite.



Lolz
2ndBest2011-02-02 22:41:49

Shortest. discussion. ever.

Next topic - What should a governor general look like?

This was never going to end well for Max.

Pulled your post Michael?

Quite right too. Had nothing to do with the GG.

Junior822011-02-02 22:54:17

ARF!

Alright, thats fine. My understanding of the Treaty is limited.
You can all laugh at me, but dale was the only one who said anything. I respect that.
I didn't see anything from anyone else..


From my experiences. I have never been effected by non-maori land owners.
But yes, I am. But there is a difference between non-maori owning land near beaches, and Maori who control all of the beach, including the foreshore, beach, and land around that beach.


As ive said, my knowledge is limited to a bit here and there at school.
You seem to know what you are on about, If you could tell people here what it is about in simple terms. That would be much appreciated.
Stefan2011-02-02 23:03:44

I think what gets to people most is things like, the "Iwi" who are charging broadcasters, will make one exception for a local Maori radio station.

That's just not how the game works.

If Maori want to control land fine, I couldn't care less. But the second access and usage becomes what colour you are I get pretty pissed off, especially when the next gasp of air is a rant about how they're so marginalised.

If they want me to throw a leaf in the river before I kayak down it, fine, (true story) I couldn't care less either. But when a group of them show up in 4WDs and start threatening an innocent group who haven't done any damage, (another true story) but are instead observing and appreciating the land that also makes me pretty pissed off.

One last thing, the government is supposed to represent all of us. So Maori shouldn't really have a problem with any land that isn't privately owned/developed etc.Michael2011-02-02 22:59:32

Maori TV were going to be charged too I think.