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Do you/ would you have kids?

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Do you/ would you have kids?
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Interested to hear people's motivations for having children.

I know there's a few dads on this forum - are there any wannabe dads or mums?

(I don't have any children)

I'm not sure that I can see the attraction, though everybody who has them seems to think they're brilliant and never regrets it.
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best thing ever


not always easy, but - imo - a big part of the experience of being alive
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Obviously not at 18, but I am without a shadow of a doubt that I want children. Don't really know why, to be honest, just think they'd be great fun.
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Yup definitely want kids. I work with children and love my job. Would have kids within the next few years if the right girl came along.
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In most cases it is human nature

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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children? one step at a time. I'm still trying to find someone to touch my pee pee
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Many people have kids becuase they are expected to.  They get to a certain age and it is just expected of them so they do.  There is no "ohh, I really want to have children..." but just an unthought-out acceptance that it is what happens next in their lives.  I cannot understand it.
 
I am committed to a kid-free life for the following reasons:
 
* I really cannot stand children.  I find them boring and annoying until they get to about 13 when you can start having proper conversations with them, and then I find them stupid and annoying.
* I am very selfish.  I like being able to spend my money on things I enjoy (eating, drinking and holidaying) as opposed to having to spend it on schools and then save it so my (adult) children who have full time jobs can buy a house.  I also like going out whenever I want and not having to worry about babysitters, etc
* My wife doesn't like to touch me.  Kind of my fault, as I have let myself go.
* There is a risk that the child might be ugly and/or a girl so I wouldn't love it.
 
Fair play to people to people who have always had a desire to breed and want to spend their time sitting at home on a Friday night colouring in with crayons and making finger puppets, but booooooo to those who do it because they think they are supposed.  Sheep, the lot of them.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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Don't do it, they are a nightmare. Does anyone want some?  I have some going cheap.
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Frankie Mac will not be breeding.

The World breathes a huge sigh of relief.
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2ndBest wrote:
children? one step at a time. I'm still trying to find someone to touch my pee pee


This. Got to marry her first.

I'd love kids. Dating a solo mum forced me to contemplate a life with kids at a young age and I was rather into it! Thank GOODNESS it ended and now i'm able to go and travel and appreciate pre-kids life!!!

I don't think kids is a right or wrong in general, just right for those that want kids, and wrong for those who don't!
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I just wish the woman at work who has made the decision not to have kids could go one day without reminding me of it. i get it, you don't want kids. I don't care. I'm not forcing you to have them, just stfu about it and enjoy all your spare time ffs.
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it would be good if you could give it a crack now and then but give them back whenever you wanted (prob after about 10 minutes)

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Feverish wrote:
it would be good if you could give it a crack now and then but give them back whenever you wanted (prob after about 10 minutes)
 
we are talking about kids here, not dirty 45 year olds at the Avenue

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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Frankie Mac wrote:
Many people have kids becuase they are expected to.  They get to a certain age and it is just expected of them so they do.  There is no "ohh, I really want to have children..." but just an unthought-out acceptance that it is what happens next in their lives.  I cannot understand it.
 
I am committed to a kid-free life for the following reasons:
 
* I really cannot stand children.  I find them boring and annoying until they get to about 13 when you can start having proper conversations with them, and then I find them stupid and annoying.
* I am very selfish.  I like being able to spend my money on things I enjoy (eating, drinking and holidaying) as opposed to having to spend it on schools and then save it so my (adult) children who have full time jobs can buy a house.  I also like going out whenever I want and not having to worry about babysitters, etc
* My wife doesn't like to touch me.  Kind of my fault, as I have let myself go.
* There is a risk that the child might be ugly and/or a girl so I wouldn't love it.
 
Fair play to people to people who have always had a desire to breed and want to spend their time sitting at home on a Friday night colouring in with crayons and making finger puppets, but booooooo to those who do it because they think they are supposed.  Sheep, the lot of them.


Brilliant answer - as usual you leave me wondering how many of those reasons are serious ...

I find NZers can be quite judgemental about breeding. People who already have kids seem to want everyone else to do it too ...
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i think that 90% of my mates accidently had their first kid then were forced into continuing cos their life was over anyway

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kiwi pie wrote:
I just wish the woman at work who has made the decision not to have kids could go one day without reminding me of it. i get it, you don't want kids. I don't care. I'm not forcing you to have them, just stfu about it and enjoy all your spare time ffs.
Do you work with Leah Panapa??
 
Great answer Frankie Mac, you said what I was thinking.
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kiwi pie wrote:
I just wish the woman at work who has made the decision not to have kids could go one day without reminding me of it. i get it, you don't want kids. I don't care. I'm not forcing you to have them, just stfu about it and enjoy all your spare time ffs.
Do you work with Leah Panapa??
 
Great answer Frankie Mac, you said what I was thinking.
I don't know who that is, so no.

I'm really glad at the amount of people who don't want to have kids, maybe classroom numbers won't be a nightmare by the time my kids go to school! Mind you, they give you money for having kids over here, so there's f**k all chance of that.
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I agree with point 2 and 4 of frankies answer.
But still want kids later in life.
 
I would like two kids. One from my own lions and then I would like to adopt.
I myself am a product of the early 90's romanian orphanages so for me. I would love to save another child from those sh*t holes.
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about 3 weeks away from my first, natuarlly the expectation is that he will be a futrure nix player.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Jnr eejit is 4 months old, tbh our motivation was along the lines of "well if we leave it much longer it'll be too late", so not a huge desire to to have kids but it's best decision I've ever made - absolutely loving being a dad. Helps that the wee felly is very placid, sleeps 13 hours a night and is full of laughs and giggles when he's awake.

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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Stefan wrote:
I agree with point 2 and 4 of frankies answer.
But still want kids later in life.
 
I would like two kids. One from my own lions and then I would like to adopt.
I myself am a product of the early 90's romanian orphanages so for me. I would love to save another child from those sh*t holes.


As opposed from your own leopards?

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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Stefan wrote:
I would like two kids. One from my own lions and then I would like to adopt.
I myself am a product of the early 90's romanian orphanages so for me. I would love to save another child from those sh*t holes.


Same here, I also want one the traditional way and one adopted (though it'll depend on what the mother wants of course). Although I don't breed with lions, or any large cat for that matter...
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ginger_eejit wrote:
Jnr eejit is 4 months old, tbh our motivation was along the lines of "well if we leave it much longer it'll be too late", so not a huge desire to to have kids but it's best decision I've ever made - absolutely loving being a dad. Helps that the wee felly is very placid, sleeps 13 hours a night and is full of laughs and giggles when he's awake.
Wait till the first time he shouts "Daddy!!!" and runs to greet you when you come home from a sh*t day at work.

Troubles melt away.
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No kids myself. But my brother's two youngest boys aged four and five have given him a new lease on life with their enthusiasm for football.
More positives than negatives.
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Robb wrote:
Stefan wrote:
I would like two kids. One from my own lions and then I would like to adopt.
I myself am a product of the early 90's romanian orphanages so for me. I would love to save another child from those sh*t holes.


Same here, I also want one the traditional way and one adopted (though it'll depend on what the mother wants of course). Although I don't breed with lions, or any large cat for that matter...


Hey man, don't knock it til you've tried it.

Personally I want to have about 3 kids.  At least one adopted as well.  Have an adopted cousin from Russia and a mate I used to go to school with from Romania and it's just one of the things I think would be great to do.  Of course, finding a good woman is the difficult part.
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kiwi pie wrote:

ginger_eejit wrote:
Jnr eejit is 4 months old, tbh our motivation was along the lines of "well if we leave it much longer it'll be too late", so not a huge desire to to have kids but it's best decision I've ever made - absolutely loving being a dad. Helps that the wee felly is very placid, sleeps 13 hours a night and is full of laughs and giggles when he's awake.
Wait till the first time he shouts "Daddy!!!" and runs to greet you when you come home from a sh*t day at work.

Troubles melt away.


Is that when he is about as tall as your groin and goes rushing head first to greet you?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Loins.
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That's lions with a kiwi accent.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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kiwi pie wrote:
ginger_eejit wrote:
Jnr eejit is 4 months old, tbh our motivation was along the lines of "well if we leave it much longer it'll be too late", so not a huge desire to to have kids but it's best decision I've ever made - absolutely loving being a dad. Helps that the wee felly is very placid, sleeps 13 hours a night and is full of laughs and giggles when he's awake.
Wait till the first time he shouts "Daddy!!!" and runs to greet you when you come home from a sh*t day at work.

Troubles melt away.
 
I remember the first time I made a girl shout "daddy", and I used to have dog that ran to greet me when I got home from work.
 
Neither of them were amazing enough to make me throw away my life.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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tigers wrote:
best thing ever


not always easy, but - imo - a big part of the experience of being alive


^ This

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I prefer dogs
I like tautologies because I like them.
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From my experience, they enable you to see the world in such a fresh way, that the cynicism you have carefully cultivted for years evaporates pretty quickly.

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it's not for the faint hearted
you have to be very understanding with your time

also it's pointless without the love of a good woman

years of systematic attacks on the family by the free-market acyoltes has totally undermined the very fabric of our once proud society. that's as good a hyperbole Ive done in some time too.

I very much enjoy being a Father and in fact cannot imagine life without this. I also struggle to remember life pre-kids and can be less than considerate to childless people because I forget they (generally speaking) have a 'freer' life.

I like how they have all developed their own personality and quirks. The fact they are healthy too is a right blessing. How people manage with ill children is a sad thing to contemplate/experience.

to summarize, Kids is great thing, if prepared and worked at. It's not a part-time course IMO




E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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Feverish wrote:
it would be good if you could give it a crack now and then but give them back whenever you wanted (prob after about 10 minutes)
They're called nieces and nephews
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Half a second, isn't that the sort of outcome that Stevie Gerrard was (allegedly) trying to conjour up?
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Jag wrote:
tigers wrote:
best thing ever


not always easy, but - imo - a big part of the experience of being alive


^ This
 
x2
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Why is it the best thing ever?
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because it is so unique - only a small number of couples can have children and they have therefore earned the right to put that childs development ahead of practically anything else that is happening around them.
 
Busy train station during rush hour?  Little Tarquin is just learning to walk up stairs so you lot can just wait patiently while he tries to tackle these ones.
 
My child is screaming in a public place?  Well as parents we don't want to stiffle little Arabella, forcing her to conform to what society expects - we encourage her to be expressive.
 
At a dinner party with a guy who is obviously bored and trying to drink his body weight in red wine  and Detol?  Spend the whole night telling him that the twins (Jemima and Fotheringham - Fothy for short) are so advanced because they are only 2 yet reading to the level of 19 month year old and wearing clothes for ages 4-6.
 
I get so sick of the smugness of parents, like having children is such a f**king achievement.  Go to any council estate and you can see 18 year old girls who have 3 kids - look at that and tell me what you managed (blowing your spunk in the right hole) makes you better than me.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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Frankie Mac wrote:
because it is so unique - only a small number of couples can have children and they have therefore earned the right to put that childs development ahead of practically anything else that is happening around them.
 
Busy train station during rush hour?  Little Tarquin is just learning to walk up stairs so you lot can just wait patiently while he tries to tackle these ones.
 
My child is screaming in a public place?  Well as parents we don't want to stiffle little Arabella, forcing her to conform to what society expects - we encourage her to be expressive.
 
At a dinner party with a guy who is obviously bored and trying to drink his body weight in red wine  and Detol?  Spend the whole night telling him that the twins (Jemima and Fotheringham - Fothy for short) are so advanced because they are only 2 yet reading to the level of 19 month year old and wearing clothes for ages 4-6.
 
I get so sick of the smugness of parents, like having children is such a f**king achievement.  Go to any council estate and you can see 18 year old girls who have 3 kids - look at that and tell me what you managed (blowing your spunk in the right hole) makes you better than me.
FM is  entitled to his opinion & I respect that, but fortunately most people have a different view. If everyone decided to follow FM's lead the human race wouldnt be around for much longer.
In my experience having kids has been the greatest thing to have ever happened to me, from the moment that they first give that kick from within to the little fcukers drawing all over your freshly painted walls! 
For some couples having children is a huge struggle & an achievement when they finally come along, but others  should be banned from ever concieving. Having children is the easiest part it's the rest of their lives which is difficult.
I agree wholeheartedly that kids screaming in public etc is annoying (even when its your kid), but there can be no greater feeling of pride or joy when you see your offspring achieving something for the first time.
The fact that I have managed to "blow my spunk in the right hole" has given me the two greatest gifts I have ever known & I would give my life to protect them.
When I see my daughters I realise I am the luckiest man alive. No-one else could have produced them except me(with a little help from the wife) so when I see them, thats when i know that I am better than anyone else, including you Frankie.
Not a personal slur- just my opinion.
 

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