Indecision 08 - The Fever US Election

Im not going to call you racist, but your wrong and you have spent to much time listening to Sean Hannity

I have never heard of Sean Hannity.

Where is the emoticon for jaw dropping...  a Fox disciple at such a young age... I'm stunned.

so if John McCain was black, he'd still be the Republican candidate? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Cosimo2008-10-16 19:36:18

a Canadian take on the 3rd debate:


That's just so wacky. I ask myself, "do I think a company should turn a profit on me getting sick?" and I think, well, no. And if there shouldn't be profit in it, then the government should be running it.

I thought it was pretty funny, though, that McCain argued that with Obama's plan the US's health care would end up like Canada. I have yet to hear an American who didn't want our health care.

"Sacramento County Republican leaders Tuesday took down offensive material on their official party Web site that sought to link Sen. Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden and encouraged people to "Waterboard Barack Obama" � material that offended even state GOP leaders."

We all know Obama's really a terrorist - I mean, his name sounds terroristy, so he must be...

There is a great Keith Olberman piece on YouTube showing Palin's links to internal terrorists like Alaskan separatists and some really serious internal US nutters.

Probably the funniest thing of the year so far

Arsenal... no.  Football365 is the place for those, not here.

Incidentally, the Scotch one is the only really funny one.

f**k you Hard News!

Hard News lacks a sense of humour imo.

Sorry... not suitable for the public face of the Fever.  We let alot go here, but that is too far.

I'll PM you something to make up for it.

Honestly lads, we already know parts of the media like nothing more than to decide the view of one person on here is the view of all on here, that doesn't meet any standards of acceptable content.
Hard News2008-10-16 20:46:56

In the case of Republican's probably not due to their massive southern support (slight stereotype there perhaps).  But Obama has got an overwhelming amount of support because he's black and people feel bad about America's dreadful race history.  That and the massive anti-bush sentiment (some justified, some plain ridiculous) which links McCain with Bush because they are both Republican.  Let's not forget the media-bashing of Republican's that seems unable to focus on any good that comes out of the war in Iraq and consistently focuses on the negatives (of which there are many, but a more balanced view would be appreciated).

Rest assured, HN, I don't watch Fox News.  Ol' 3 news suits me fine.
loyalgunner2008-10-16 20:24:11

but that is balanced out by the fact that many Americans WON'T vote for him because he is black, whether they admit it or not

Do you support the war in Iraq?

I think more would vote for him out of guilt over the history than those who wouldn't vote for him out of racism - so in my view that doesn't balance out.  However, none of us really have anything to back our views on that up so who cares.

Arsenal, I'm kind of mixed on it in all honesty.  Something had to be done after 9/11, and if America did nothing they'd probably have received more criticism than they do now.  The Taliban were ruthless and needed to be crushed.  Also, Saddam Hussein needed to be caught and it's good they got him, however, it probably would've been better to avoid Iraq and just have stuck with Afghanistan (an offensive I did support).  Bare in mind that Bush's approval rating went up into the 80-ish % mark after the attacks so it's obvious that a lot of people supported him then.  It was only after they had invaded Afghanistan that they all changed their minds and opposed Bush's move, but he could hardly just leave could he?  Invading Iraq after that, though, especially with large public opposition, was not wise.

Hope that made sense.
loyalgunner2008-10-16 20:38:28

Yeah true that is part of it, but you also often hear about "American's wanting a change, the Republican party are out of touch" etc

2ndBest2008-10-16 20:52:06

I'm pretty sure I said they invaded Afghanistan first, or at least alluded to it ("Invading Iraq after that, though,").

I'm not arguing about Iraq as I said I don't agree with that invasion.

Some good clean Palin fun:

"It was only after they had invaded Afghanistan that they all changed their minds and opposed Bush's move, but he could hardly just leave could he"

man it's lucky (for the GoPs) that she's hot - you can get away with being moronic if you're hot

I don't think you will find many people who argued with the invasion of Afghanistan, they have just f**ked it up so monumentally since they got there. Am reading the book Bob Woodward has just released on the Bush Administration from 6 months before the mid terms through to now and how the whole strategy in Iraq was just a shambles

Lol at the pic.
loyalgunner2008-10-16 21:01:40

My gif. was better imo

we still you KP, just slightly less each day

I complete you.

 

And here is some more info for Hustler's politically-inspired porno Nailin' Paylin' 

Cosimo2008-10-17 08:21:58

So 'Joe the Plumber' turned out to be named Samuel who isn't registered as a plumber.

I'll just say two things for now:

1. Do not underestimate the political power of redneck America.

2. The GOP looks like they're laying the groundwork for a legal challenge should Obama win.

Obama is by no means as red-hot a favourite the way a lot of commentators see him.

Why do you think the ACORN stuff is getting so much airing at the moment?
In addition to scoring points against the 'liberals', it prepares the groundwork for a legal challenge in swing states, especially Ohio. If McCain loses some of those states, watch out.

And of course they're not going to say "hmm, we're preparing a legal challenge in case we lose". But I think that's on the cards if McCain loses, especially in the states where ACORN has been active.

I think the ACORN thing is getting a lot of airing because the Republicans in crisis mode, i would be more than very surprised if it was a ground for a mainstream court challenge. Maybe some extreme whackjobs might use it but not the Replubican party as a whole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5SWQJWm6Tg

pretty darn funny - Obama tearing it up
Cosimo2008-10-17 20:29:05

What the Republicans have done well with this guy Joe the Plumber is put a face on Obama's tax plans, which is so ideologically different from the right, that Obama can be more easily portrayed as a 'nasty' socialist. Joe is right on that $250,000 bracket for increased taxes so he's perfect.