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Its Summer! - the Fever Cricket Thread. (Part 2)

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Groff wrote:

This sucks. NZ cricket is set to become an international laughing stock due to the actions of a few. Any sympathy for Lou should be gone with this quote.......

Vincent told the ICC that he justified the fixes in England because his contract with Sussex was ‘only for £22,000’ and he was unhappy at how the ECB had made him wait three years for a British passport.

The irony being that he walked away from a guaranteed NZ contract I believe?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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This whole thing fudgeing guts me. CC is a big part of why I liked cricket as a kid and why I ended up liking cricket today. This must be how Saffer fans felt after the Cronje scandal. It would be easier to take if it was just players like Vincent and Tuffey but Cairns was the first name on the teamsheet for years. Fudgeing NZ cricket, always finds a new way to emotionally damage fans.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Cairns just spoke to Devlin off air saying he will release a statement in 10-15 minutes.

Fuck this stupid game

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Linky anyone? Would love to read it.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Cairns reckons he is being persecuted by people in the game because he has raised concerns about the health of the game in the past and is now paying the price for it. Discredits Vincent by saying he has been involved in fixing, and is trying to deflect blame to cairns for fixing games that he had no involvement in. 

Let the mud slinging begin! 

Also not sure if it is his real account. But a Cairns account (it does seem to be his, but isn't verified ) is trawling twitter threatening legal action. 


Allegedly

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Still pissed off with Herald for front paging this during the fantastic partnership by Macca and Taylor as NZ cricket stars in match fixing wateva...

Next time they win an award the TV networks should find a scandal in The Howick Advertiser or something and lead with " Story Fabrication and Plagiarism Scandal engulfs a Leading North Island Newspaper"



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martinb wrote:

Still pissed off with Herald for front paging this during the fantastic partnership by Macca and Taylor as NZ cricket stars in match fixing wateva...

Next time they win an award the TV networks should find a scandal in The Howick Advertiser or something and lead with " Story Fabrication and Plagiarism Scandal engulfs a Leading North Island Newspaper"

You are getting your nose bent out of shape for a news organisation reporting the news? Really?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Tegal wrote:


Cairns reckons he is being persecuted by people in the game because he has raised concerns about the health of the game in the past and is now paying the price for it. 

If this was true then someone like Martin Crowe would have been first on the hit-list, not CC.
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On another tangent, I feel quite disappointed that parts of a confidential inquiry (e.g. McCullum's testimony) have been leaked to the British Press.

  1. Because it must suck for McCullum to be outed as a nark regarding an old teammate
  2. It doesn't give me a lot of confidence in the people running the inquiry (which I actually want to succeed)
  3. It will probably make others who are considering giving evidence think twice about it
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Lance Cairns's "dark forces" -

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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So he admits he is the guy that was talking to Vincent, McCullum etc. 

In other words, everybody is lying apart from Chris Cairns. 

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#BiggerForces

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Arsenal wrote:

lol:

Chris Cairns ‏@chriscairns168  21m

Please change headline @ESPNcricinfo...not rejecting I am Player X...please read the quotes in your story, it's the allegations I reject...

Chris Cairns ‏@chriscairns168  11m

Thanks for all the support out there and to all those who understand that there are bigger forces at play here...chat soon...cheers


He also tweeted a forum poster on here saying he would "take matters further" if he didn't apologise immediately for a tweet. Much lolz. 


Allegedly

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One News... ,much wow!


Then sad.

E + R + O

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SurgeQld wrote:

One News... ,much wow!


Then sad.


Details? - watched  3.
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Tegal wrote:
Arsenal wrote:

lol:

Chris Cairns ‏@chriscairns168  21m

Please change headline @ESPNcricinfo...not rejecting I am Player X...please read the quotes in your story, it's the allegations I reject...

Chris Cairns ‏@chriscairns168  11m

Thanks for all the support out there and to all those who understand that there are bigger forces at play here...chat soon...cheers


He also tweeted a forum poster on here saying he would "take matters further" if he didn't apologise immediately for a tweet. Much lolz. 


Details, who was it?

Auckland will rise once more

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This is a bit 'tin foil hat' but without anyone knowing how far the web actually spreads anything is possible...

What if Cairns is no where near the top and his involvement isn't as big on the scale of it all as it seems. If the fixing ring is run like the mafia then there could be no end to who is involved and who they could have control over. I'm talking ICC and ACSU. If these 'fixers' have involved/threatened peoples families (which has been suggested) they could gain control of nearly anyone. If they managed to infiltrate the ACSU, they could protect their 'employed' players and also 'out' who they want to (could explain the leaked ACSU info on Vincent/McCullum). Big name Indian players would be far more likely to be protected than a few Kiwi guys who no longer have any connection or incriminating information about the ring - unless that's what Cairns thinks will save him, the info he has about the ring leaders knowing they might be able to bargain. That's all very far fetched but who knows what's below the surface. The other end of the scale is Cairns is the center of it and it won't involve too many others but I don't think that will be the case. 

Fuck this stupid game

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TopLeft07 wrote:

This is a bit 'tin foil hat' but without anyone knowing how far the web actually spreads anything is possible...

What if Cairns is no where near the top and his involvement isn't as big on the scale of it all as it seems. If the fixing ring is run like the mafia then there could be no end to who is involved and who they could have control over. I'm talking ICC and ACSU. If these 'fixers' have involved/threatened peoples families (which has been suggested) they could gain control of nearly anyone. If they managed to infiltrate the ACSU, they could protect their 'employed' players and also 'out' who they want to (could explain the leaked ACSU info on Vincent/McCullum). Big name Indian players would be far more likely to be protected than a few Kiwi guys who no longer have any connection or incriminating information about the ring - unless that's what Cairns thinks will save him, the info he has about the ring leaders knowing they might be able to bargain. That's all very far fetched but who knows what's below the surface. The other end of the scale is Cairns is the center of it and it won't involve too many others but I don't think that will be the case. 

Hansie Cronje. Plane crash. Just saying.

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Also, Bob Woolmer's unexplained death....

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This would answer a lot of questions about how we would always throw away winning positions.

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

http://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixClubMembersSupportersGroupOsaka

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So Cairns admits he is the guy they are talking about, but says the stuff they have said is made up? That's about where we sit right now?

Unfortunately, with cricket the way it is these days the dark forces argument probably has some legs. Who has most to gain from Cairns being outed? High up that list is Modi, while he isn't big in the BCCI these days I am sure he still has some very powerful friends in very powerful places. Most of whom would have had access to all of this. Are CC and LV being made scapegoats because they come from a relatively small cricket market? Would this stuff have been leaked if it was a group of English players or Indian?

People have done bad stuff. But cricket isn't a savoury place anymore so I don't have trouble believing the dark forces story.

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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detoxin wrote:

This would answer a lot of questions about how we would always throw away winning positions.

LOL, I wish. But wouldn't that only work in the bookies' favour if we were favourites?

 

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Just remember everyone. Cricket is the game of gentlemen! (Tui Ad?)

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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TopLeft07 wrote:

This is a bit 'tin foil hat' but without anyone knowing how far the web actually spreads anything is possible...

What if Cairns is no where near the top and his involvement isn't as big on the scale of it all as it seems. If the fixing ring is run like the mafia then there could be no end to who is involved and who they could have control over. I'm talking ICC and ACSU. If these 'fixers' have involved/threatened peoples families (which has been suggested) they could gain control of nearly anyone. If they managed to infiltrate the ACSU, they could protect their 'employed' players and also 'out' who they want to (could explain the leaked ACSU info on Vincent/McCullum). Big name Indian players would be far more likely to be protected than a few Kiwi guys who no longer have any connection or incriminating information about the ring - unless that's what Cairns thinks will save him, the info he has about the ring leaders knowing they might be able to bargain. That's all very far fetched but who knows what's below the surface. The other end of the scale is Cairns is the center of it and it won't involve too many others but I don't think that will be the case. 

Hansie Cronje. Plane crash. Just saying.

Chris Cairns. Initials are CC. C is the third letter of the alphabet. CC=3x3=9.
Hansie Cronje. Initials are HC. H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. H+C=11
9/11.
Mind blown. 

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Arsenal wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:

This is a bit 'tin foil hat' but without anyone knowing how far the web actually spreads anything is possible...

What if Cairns is no where near the top and his involvement isn't as big on the scale of it all as it seems. If the fixing ring is run like the mafia then there could be no end to who is involved and who they could have control over. I'm talking ICC and ACSU. If these 'fixers' have involved/threatened peoples families (which has been suggested) they could gain control of nearly anyone. If they managed to infiltrate the ACSU, they could protect their 'employed' players and also 'out' who they want to (could explain the leaked ACSU info on Vincent/McCullum). Big name Indian players would be far more likely to be protected than a few Kiwi guys who no longer have any connection or incriminating information about the ring - unless that's what Cairns thinks will save him, the info he has about the ring leaders knowing they might be able to bargain. That's all very far fetched but who knows what's below the surface. The other end of the scale is Cairns is the center of it and it won't involve too many others but I don't think that will be the case. 

Hansie Cronje. Plane crash. Just saying.


Chris Cairns. Initials are CC. C is the third letter of the alphabet. CC=3x3=9.

Hansie Cronje. Initials are HC. H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. H+C=11

9/11.

Mind blown. 

I wish I could "this!" this a million times!

 

Wake up sheeple!!!

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detoxin wrote:

This would answer a lot of questions about how we would always throw away winning positions.

I actually meant to quote and not endorse this. Fail.

I know (hope) you are joking but please remember we are talking about spot fixing which is completely different to match fixing. We throw away winning positions because we are garbage, end of.

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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https://best-of-youtube-conspiracies.tumblr.com/post/47547734691/deleted-youtube-video-refound-you-ever-heard

Watch this space. Next up a Youtube video exposing everything you wanted to know about cricket and bookies.......

 

[Do not take this seriously, its a conspiracey website]

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It might seem like a mere conspiracy theory to some but current players are concerned about the depth of the corruption. ICC now investigating the media leaks.

Fuck this stupid game

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TopLeft07 wrote:
It might seem like a mere conspiracy theory to some but current players are concerned about the depth of the corruption. ICC now investigating the media leaks.
But again, if you are not involved, the truth will set you free and you should have nothing to worry about. If they bought drug sniffer dogs through your work, and you are not involved in drugs, then you have zero to worry about.


One thing why I believe McCullum to be speaking the truth is that he is not even the slightest bit worried about repercussions, more that fact that his confidential testimony was leaked. Thus, because he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to be worried about.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Yeah, the concerns are deeper than that. They don't fear the authorities. I don't want to sound like a complete nutter so I won't repeat any more of what I'm hearing because at this stage it could be paranoia or just speculation but it's interesting none the less.

Fuck this stupid game

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I think the conspiracy theory stuff has a lot of merit personally. A couple of times previously little things have happened in isolation which hint at the reach of these matchfixing syndicates, and given the money in the game in South Asia and the levels of corruption there it would be naive to assume that the only people connected to the game who are involved are a couple of kiwi lads. The IPL is almost actually the perfect vehicle for fixing rings - no history or team pride at stake to conflict players, just bright lights and cold hard cash.

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TopLeft07 wrote:
Yeah, the concerns are deeper than that. They don't fear the authorities. I don't want to sound like a complete nutter so I won't repeat any more of what I'm hearing because at this stage it could be paranoia or just speculation but it's interesting none the less.
You now sound a nutter for not saying it :p
E + R + O

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SurgeQld wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Yeah, the concerns are deeper than that. They don't fear the authorities. I don't want to sound like a complete nutter so I won't repeat any more of what I'm hearing because at this stage it could be paranoia or just speculation but it's interesting none the less.
You now sound a nutter for not saying it :p
My imaginary friend Rahul is adamant but I'm not so sure so I won't be repeating it. To save my face and all that.

Fuck this stupid game

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Jeff Vader wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
It might seem like a mere conspiracy theory to some but current players are concerned about the depth of the corruption. ICC now investigating the media leaks.
 

One thing why I believe McCullum to be speaking the truth is that he is not even the slightest bit worried about repercussions, more that fact that his confidential testimony was leaked. Thus, because he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to be worried about.

Cricketers have a responsibility to report approaches when they occur so I don't think BMac is completely off the hook.
Grabbed this for the kindle yesterday:
Only about a third of the way through but it is excellent so far. 

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Arsenal wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
It might seem like a mere conspiracy theory to some but current players are concerned about the depth of the corruption. ICC now investigating the media leaks.
 

One thing why I believe McCullum to be speaking the truth is that he is not even the slightest bit worried about repercussions, more that fact that his confidential testimony was leaked. Thus, because he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to be worried about.

Cricketers have a responsibility to report approaches when they occur so I don't think BMac is completely off the hook.

The Daily Mail reported that McCullum didn't report the approach in 2008 but then David White denied that was true and the ICC have since backed that up.

Fuck this stupid game

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LOL

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Saw cairns doing some serious shopping on high street the other day. He looked happy as Larry and not a care in the world. He's even innocent or has a very thick skin



Auckland will rise once more

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