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My NZness has gone!!

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My NZness has gone!!
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/opinion/2975197/Rugby-the-way-the-truth-the-light-the-TV
And let's be clear about this: anyone who dislikes or dismisses rugby is not a real New Zealander. No great New Zealander ever detested rugby; and no detester of rugby ever did anything great for New Zealand. Rugby is the DNA of our Kiwi essence.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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I'm not a real New Zealander then.
 
Oh well.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Was worried when i read the title- then i saw who wrote it and felt al whole lot better

Micheal Laws=
 
Nothing that man says has any creedence

Salmon swim upstream

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Imagine that guy playing rugby- he'd get the bash

Salmon swim upstream

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Michael Laws. What can you say.
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I think a reply with Micheal Laws and the word cock is probably in order.

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LOLZ he's just a small town mayor of Whanganui Everton FC2009-10-19 20:14:14
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Wow.

The stuff about Asians?

Just......wow.
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Funny how you can't comment on it on the SST site

I know what i'd say

Salmon swim upstream

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He's an anachronism.  The world has moved on since the 60's and 70's but poor Michael hasn't.

One day he'll catch up and get a horrible fright that New Zealand isn't all Rugby, Racing and beer.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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That has to be one of the most racist pieces of work I've read for a while. even Winston Peters is not that bad. I guess most users of this site can't be New Zealanders now eh?
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Michael Laws wrote:
Before my children were born, I can honestly state that I loved rugby above all else.


Sorry for biting but....

This sentence right here sums up what a total c**t this guy is.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Bloody hell.
How are you the mayor of wHanganui?!
You are a disgrace. You can say what you want about me and this, but I don't care.
The fact is, I love Football (Soccer to your small minded type, you know.. Round Ball? Rectangular goal?) I don't like Rugby, in fact, I hate it.
Why does this not make me a real New Zealander?

I will stick with New Zealand no matter what.
I have not got a problem with NZ at all. It seems that you have got the problem.
You make racist, insensitive and horrible comments even to the people in the community you are paid to work for.

My question is.
Why should New Zealand have to listen to your bullsh*t all the time?
What exactly gives you the right to say that people who do not like rugby are not real New Zealanders?

There is more to being Kiwi than Rugby Mr. Laws.
You live in what I would say is the most Beautiful country in the world for gods sake!
We pride ourselves on being "100% Pure"
I certainly do.
Are you just bitter because you can't handle the pressures and problems of Whanganui?

My sister and I were adopted from Romania at birth (Yes! That's Right! An Immigrant! I'll gladly send you my details for you to deport me if you like) So Im not technically Kiwi.
I was brought up by what is good about this country, two loving parents, people who care.
I love everything about this place. the people, the scenery, Everything!
AND
I hate Rugby.
Get over it.



Un Kiwily yours.
Stefan Alletson
18 Years Old
Wellington.


Bring Back Tony Veitch.
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Best Ignored.

That's what he wants.  We'll get another editorial smugly proclaiming how he's been proved right by the sort of hate mail he got.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hate mail is fun   
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Yep - this is what he indulges in. throw away lines that are there to bait a response.

Peters and Laws have a lot in common - pandering to middle NZs phobias and insecurities.

It's good to see some sound rebuttals here but in the end its hard to engage in debate with some one who has his own "column inches" (I think the phrase was in another thread) in a weekly that is inversely proportional to his other column inches...

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Yeah.  He has the pulpit and therefore the audience.  There is no win here for confrontation apart from assuaging your own frustration. 

Gordon McLachlan peddled the same crap about 8 years ago, I just ignore anything he writes these days, same with laws (small l intentional).

How's my driving? - Whine here

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1251: Blackburn's New Zealand-born captain Ryan Nelsen on the rivalry between Rovers and Burnley: "People south of these towns don't realise how big this is. I get asked by silly reporters if this is like an All Blacks-Australia rugby game. I've been to a few of those and they are an absolute yawn festival compared to this thing."
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Ryan Nelson - UnNew Zealand

Name and shame folks it's the only way we'll become great again.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Stevo wrote:


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1251: Blackburn's New Zealand-born captain Ryan Nelsen on the rivalry between Rovers and Burnley: "People south of these towns don't realise how big this is. I get asked by silly reporters if this is like an All Blacks-Australia rugby game. I've been to a few of those and they are an absolute yawn festival compared to this thing."



Maybe UnNZer but would like to nominate him for honorary Wellingtonian of the Year

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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"Ask any dozen NZers to name the most unique characteristic of our nation and what do you suppose they would reply?

The less travelled may trot out the old chestnut about 'friendly people' (but most people around the world are friendly)...
 
The next most probable answer is the 'unique beauty of NZ' (but every country's tourist brochure makes the same claim)...
 
...of that dozen NZers there's bound to be one wet prick who will talk about 'the noble Maori people' or an embarrassing oaf who will refer to the All Blacks, who are in fact unheard of by 99.9% of the world's population, while if anyone mentions 'Kiwi ingenuity' I will break down and cry...
 
In my case I have a spontaneous answer - the obsession with the accursed economy.  It really is something peculiar to NZ..."
 
Bob Jones, New Zealand the Way I Want it, 1978, p. 95.
Stevo2009-10-20 01:28:07
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David Lange couldn't stand rugby union.
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"I'm 49, I've had a brain haemorrhage and a triple bypass and I could still go out and play a reasonable game of rugby union.  But I wouldn't last 30 seconds in rugby league."

 
Graham Lowe (1995)
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Michael Laws:
 
"And let's be clear about this: anyone who dislikes or dismisses rugby is not a real New Zealander.  No great New Zealander ever detested rugby"...
 
 
"Rugby has so many problems.  I find that I cant be bothered to watch much rugby now".
 
New Zealand's greatest sport broadcaster, since 1998
 
Stevo2009-10-20 02:18:19
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When he was on Radio Sport, Graham Hill once called New Zealand the "hermit kingdom" for its "obsession" with rugby.
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Haha we get it

Allegedly

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Matthew Ridge called rugby "as boring as batsh*t" several years ago. 
 
It's even less exciting now...
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It's great that Michael Laws is saying this - most people will disagree with it just because he says it, not just for the fact it's retarded.

Wait, that's a tautology...
Cosimo2009-10-20 08:17:33
I like tautologies because I like them.
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From: Michael Laws (mlaws@mediaworks.co.nz) RE: I'm not a real New Zealander then. Oh Well‏  
No you're not.

_______________________________________________________
To: Michael Laws
Subject: I'm not a real New Zealander then. Oh Well


 
Regards
 
Jordan
 
PS its goes like this >>Whanganui
Haha Laws repyled to my email.
Everton FC2009-10-20 23:16:28
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The article is not so much anti-footie but a look at how immigrants get accepted into NZ society.  Having experienced the odd inter-racial pub riot in Auckland, the Tate Squad with their blue helmets, and then drinking with your mates (of all races) at the club rooms after match, I reckon "acceptance" comes from participating in any sport, not just rugby.  Rugby simply gets the coverage.

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Stefan wrote:

My question is.
Why should New Zealand have to listen to your bullsh*t all the time?


Freedom of speech.

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Helen Clarke, patriarc of some Auckland Rugby LEAGUE team. Obviously our former Prime Minister is not a true New Zealander. And what about John Keys wearing a YF tee shirt. Another non New Zealander.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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I got my reply from Michael Laws.

"You are a dickhead."

Hmm... That hurts Michael
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Ooooh he replies huh? I'm tempted now.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Go on... Do it!

mlaws@mediaworks.co.nzStefan2009-10-20 17:58:22
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