The Fall of Veitch. One week later.

The Fall of Veitch. One week later.

Stevo2008-07-14 23:19:13

i think its sad that many people on here have gained satisfaction out of watching someone fall from grace more because he seemingly dislikes the phoenix, or likes to undermine us when he can

Not to mention the fact hes a woman basher aye bopman,no one likes seeing someone suffer for bashing their girlfriend then covering it up with money earnt from being a public figure that people are supposed to look up to...

How the f**k is expressing my opinion that what he did was terrible gutless? I'd be happy to tell him to his face that he should be jailed. Critical_Lemon2008-07-14 07:11:58

i think people would hate him even if he didn't dislike the Phoenix. I have friends that don't like the Phoenix, but i don't want them to go to jail. And fall from grace implies some embarrassing moment/s - or getting fat and useless like Elvis, not wifebeating.  

I'm not sure how I'm gutless

Hands up if you can guess who voted the first option!!!!

I'd say he's a puppet but at the risk of being called racist I'll call him a muppet instead.

Tui's billboard in Auckland cracked me up

"Here's $100 000. Keep it quiet....."


Don't think any of the options are quite on the mark for me...as the horror outweights the delight significantly. HarryHotspur2008-07-14 10:05:28

Critical Lemon, 2nd Best and myself get on a pole? Gutless? f**k Off, Gutless is giving a woman a kicking and braking 4 vertibrae. I applaud my fellow nominees for having the balls to take a stand against this sort of mindless violence. Lonegunmen2008-07-14 11:57:32

It is pretty unfair, I just voted 3 times just to see if it could have been rigged...it probably is.

Bopman, how the fook can you defend a man who beats his partner, let alone any man that kicks a woman when shes on the ground so hard that he breaks her back....and then all he's concerned about is his career so he pays her to keep quiet.

No matter how you try to spin this, and have a crack at those who are appalled at his behaviour for venting their anger and dismay, you can't seriously be trying to support him based on people here not liking him for his inability to report positively on anything football.....

Take a look at yourself man.....Tony Veitch is a criminal and gutless FOOKIN coward!!!

FFS.  Blame Veitch.  Gezz, you can even have a crack at this sh*tty poll which people have taken far too seriously.  But go easy on Bopman, our Yellowfever brother.

maybe the poll choices were not the best worded, hence we took it seriously. However I still maintain I am proud to stand up and be counted as a man who is against domestic violence in any form and that 

See how easy it is to boost the poll? Is that a set-up ault or how you've instructed it to run? LOL

I'm pretty happy to examine my shortcomings, in fact I do it regularly. I'm even happy to say that I have cracked a girl's rib once, completely by accident. But not, like Vietch, in a fit of rage, with intent to cause pain.

CL, I can pay you $10 to keep your "accident" quiet! Shhhhhh!!

Man you guys are idiots.. "the vote is rigged"... Scottishbhoy2008-07-14 23:10:21

I'm not really serious that it is rigged, I just pointed out that it could be. Why would you open a vote like this up to multiple voting though? I guess there could be a crossover of opinion that means two answers appeal to you but surely not much.

can i make my position quite clear
1) what vietch did is horrendous, i in no way condone him beating a woman and i think he will be punished as the police see fit in accordance with law and with precedent
2) i believe he shouldn't lose his job, i think he may struggle to do either of his jobs well because he just lacks credibility. ie how can anyone interviewee (say jimmy cowan) take him seriously when he is trying to push him into a corner but if the police charge him then i think he will. would not suprise me at all to see him reappear on the sports news sometime over summer when no-one is really watching
3) i think the media coverage has been poor, its very quickly became about one upmanship rather than reporting a story. it seems like there is a pretty clear divide between tvnz-nzherald/tv3-dom post.
4) the gutless comments i made last week were in regard to people commenting on here but being unwiling to voice there opinion to t***er who was going to challenge you on your opinions, but i apologise to anyone who took my gutless comments as a personal afront
5) and my comment earlier in this thread i still stand by but if read properly it is in no way condoning his action. i believe that many people on here have enjoyed his fall more because of the perception that he likes to undermine the nix
6) if anyone wants to talk about this further buy me a beer at the bencher on sunday and we'll chat because really thats what this whole forums about, supporting the boys and come sunday thats what we will all be doingbopman2008-07-15 10:24:14

Bopman, if you buy me a Burger from the BB, I'll listen to what you have to say! (No drinking for me, I start work at 9pm that night.)

Thanks for the clarification Bopman, and sorry if I wasn't clear on your stance/opinions.   I have worked with Veitch on a number of occasions and found him to be a polite and professional (if not a little talkative) but I think both his positions are now untenable after he has admitted the assault and the payout.

Look forward to the beer on Sunday .....the one you buy that is....

It's not just about Veitch's credibility, but also TVNZ's. The latter would lose a lot of face if they retained them. TVNZ might have to let him go if only to save their own arse. Otherwise they'll become known as the network that doesn't mind if its employees engage in domestic abuse. This could result in the public boycotting TVNZ, advertisers pulling funding, content providers refusing to deal with TVNZ, and perhaps lower government funding.

That being said, he should lose his job IMHO - He's a public figurehead. For the sheer sake of accountability he should be sacked. Though as far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't be able to continue working for TVNZ for the sheer sake that Mt Eden Prison doesn't have a television studio.

At 3pm they announced that Tony Veitch has resigned from TVNZ abd Radio New Zealand.

They should of sacked him at 2:59pm

Now the ex has made a complaint to police so criminal charges will be laid. Does that mean he gets the $170k back?

Has anyone read Garth Georges column on the Herald website today? Interesting take on the whole thing

Gotta link Bopman?

The continuing media frenzy over the Tony Veitch affair has left me uneasy, even faintly nauseated. When journalists turn on one of their own with the ferocity of jackals tearing at the throat of a wounded pack member, I'm glad I'm out of the game full-time.

Now Garth George knows how the rest of us feel with the type of journalism that has become common place. Veitch has experienced the media spotlight and it is a shame a few others within the media don't also get a taste. They might realise how lucky they are at reporting on others and not being reported on.

kinda how fame works though

The beating was bad enough regardless of whether he was provoked.  But it's the hush money (reportedly 170K) that gets me and is why his position was untenable.  Without the media, he would never have come clean. 

Wongo2008-07-25 09:24:11

dairyflat2008-07-25 12:49:25

This one is better Wongo

Anyone else bothered by the fact that so many people are keen to defend Veitch?