Yawn - NZ Election 08 - The Fever thread

Cheers for clearing that up bopman.

While I wouldn't support Winston Peters his billboards are pro.  There's one of him doing the 'victory' or 'peace' sign and he looks more like a kid than a politician.

Not necessarily. It's a good way for smaller parties to get representation in Parliament, especially if the 5% is difficult to reach for them. That's how ACT got into the Parliament the last election, and United Future and Progressives (aka Jim Anderton).

Yes true, If you win an electorate seat you can bring in the other MPs that your party vote qualifies you for. That is why Rodney Hide and Peter Dunne were able to bring MPs with them after the last election. Negates having to reach the 5% threshold

http://www.stuff.co.nz/vote08/4743294a28435.html

John Key...

Much ado about nothing, even Helen is refusing to be dragged into it to try and stem embarrassment to the Labour party.

Incidentally, Labour's "Two Johns" ads have been ruled misleading by the Advertising Standards Authority.

Well if we are to be true to form we will let an investiagtion run its course into the key elders saga, well Helen will anyway. Oh wait hang on, this has been through court and from my understanding Key was cleared. Lets see if Helen plays by her own rules

Edit: Upon investigation here is what the director of the SFO said after the investigation into the saga many years ago
�Mr Key was simply one in a �vast array of innocent people, potential witnesses, in a massive fact-gathering exercise. I feel compelled to fully support the reported comments of John Key in relation to the H-Fee transaction. It should not need to be said that John Key was completely innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever. For any politician to hint or suggest otherwise would be absolutely rubbish and pure mischief-making�


bopman2008-10-29 23:43:50

Anyone taken this?

Is meant to tell you what parties share similar political values as you.

My Results:

United Future 73%

Nats 71%

NZ First 66%

Labour 63%

Act 61%

Progressive 61%

Green 41%

A little suprised at United Future.

Also did the american version which came back McCain. I would vote Obama.

I'm surprised that Dunne has been mirroring your political values too! Gee, are you one of his Hollow men?!

ACT (82%), National (62%), UF (55%), NZF (48%), Labour and Greens (35%), Progressive (28%).

Perhaps unsurprisingly I get Bobb Barr for the US election (71%) with Obama the lowest (38%).
Arsenal2008-10-30 07:56:41

so was that it, Mike Williams last throw of the dice?
I reckon a low turnout.
I keep agreeing with Tariana Turia & Rodney Hide but wouldn't vote for either. Must be my age.

National 71%
NZ First 68%
United Future 66%
ACT 56%
Progressive and Labour 54%
Greens 53%

Had national as number one, but tbh i disagree with it.. If i could vote i would be voting Labour.

Had United Future as my #1. I actually would vote for them, I agree with a lot of their policies and beliefs (except for "Fire at will"), however it was only just recently that they were a fundementalist party. I'll see how they go over the next four years then consider them for the next election.

Helens latest attempt at a neutron bomb tonight, lets see how this one goes. Cant be any worse than her fizzer last week!

What? Link?

quoting Helen from tonights debate:

All four polls out in the last day show some combination of a National/ACT/UF government come Saturday. All four also show a massive lead for National over Labour.

If you're currently a National supporter that wants a strong government that looks different from what we've currently got, vote ACT.

national to win just.

Maori Party to be the kingmakers.

I got:

NZ First 73%
National 72%
United Future 66%

Greens were lowest in similarity with me with 48%

took it and didn't like the results at all!

So, 8.4% into it National has 48.8% to Labours 31.1%. Greens sitting at 6.1 and NZ First at 4.5.

Labour bearing a striking resemblance to a NZ rowing crew. Every second sentence said about Labour involves the words "strong finishers"..

nah she's gone burger

yeah,  like all but 1 of the new zealand rowing crews . francsernal2008-11-08 22:01:00

I got

Labour 75%
Progressive 71%
United 70%
National 56%
Green 65%
ACT 48%

Neo Liberals? You think this government will take a neo liberal economic position? I think you are having a laugh. If Roger Douglas gets anywhere near cabinet i may share your views but the economic policy differential between Labour and National is minimal.
I voted for a change in government because i believe Helen Clarke had lost her way as a leader and was leading a government that was doing some dodgy things, Winston, Showerheads to name just a few.
It does not matter one f**king bit mate how old I was last time we had neo liberals in control, I have just as much right as you to vote for what i believe will be best for this country. And to me a change in Government was what was needed to keep us strong. And the last time Neo Liberals were in control I was anywhere between 4-8 depending how you want to work the National Government of the early 90s in there

Sorry angry question I was about to delete it when I see you replied.

Firstly absolutely. You do. It was a resounding victory, supported by many New Zealanders who have seen a lot of things, and believe that Helen Clark had lost her way.

I didn't see it the way they and you did, and I want to know why you did see it that way.

This, certainly with the policy of large investments in infrastructure funded by our superanuation savings, is not entirely an idelogically pure neo-liberal government. It will be iin co-alition with a party that attempts to be ideologically pure that way.

However, other policies such as privatising ACC or 'opening it up to competition' will not benefit the majority of New Zealanders. ACC compensation has been a unique achievement of NZ since the 70s I believe. It keeps us away from ambulance chasing lawyers and so many other nastry things common overseas. Sorry my crap broadband won't open the direct link to teh PriceWaterhouseCoopers report, but it is linked to from this post.

Also the measure of putting workers on a 90 fire at will probation, when a probation period exists in the current legislation is unecessary, and a first step in eroding workers rights.

Another thing that I find appalling is privatising prisons. I don't like our biding for higher sentences anyway. But running justice for profit is something that I just don't like at all.

As I didn't like our school assembly in 1999 being used to sell us an electricity company, with prizes of PS2s if we changed companies, followed up by an electric company calling the house with details from the school.

I'm worried mate. I hope they prove me wrong.

The leaky buildings were a result of deregulation in the building industry from them last time, and I have a friend who has had builders in and out of his building, and it covered in a tarpaulin for months, at great cost to him, as a result just to make it safe. They want to scale back the RMA.
I'm worried.

That's all. I didn't mean to insult you dude. Arsenal just soured my buzz a bit last night, and I thought he at the very least could explain himself.

So National got up?

Massive mate. Nats and Act already got a government. Act the surprise with 4 or 5 mps. Lucky for Smeltz he is going to be living in a country with how many Labour governments is it these days? used to be 9, down to 7 or something is it? But hey, biggest year numerically for people going there according to JK.

oh and Key's daughter is a Keymo!

I accept we needed a change in government,but i'm always worried as a worker in N.Z the sh!t National like too pull on us to help benefit the business round table or business in general. i.e employment contracts act.
As a sportsperson who is sometimes injured on the field and has the old occupational misshap whilst at work the changes made to A.C.C also.

oh well now John "flipflop" Key has to face the critics - I actual feel happy for Helen for getting out of it

With privatising prisons.... that means less staff, lower wages for staff, more crims, fewer consequences for crims as they're protected by civil liberties, human rights and those c**ts from the Howard League for Penis Penal Reform. Lonegunmen2008-11-09 10:50:32

What?

Ah so we are going to become prosperous, no need to twist my arm there.  Time for finger out, throttle open, foot down.  Will speak to you all about it in three years time....