2016 Chatham Cup

when will the draw come out, would I be right in thinking the preliminary round would be on Anzac day?

.@NZ_Football will do the #ChathamCup draw for the preliminary rounds live tomorrow on twitter from 12pm.

Auckland, New Zealand

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No Nelson Suburbs again this year.

Nope because NZ Football should be paying for there travel apparently.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/domestic/788...

I have some sympathy with them about the costs. NCR are in a similar position, although with a slightly shorter travel time to Wellington.

But whining to the media that you can't afford it and that NZF should pay for you to compete is a bit selfish, given there's plenty of other clubs who face the same financial issues but manage to make it work.

Yeah all northern clubs play each other from the first round so a Taupo side may have to travel to Whangarei due instance. At least Nelson Suburbs would play in Nelson against other (weaker) Nelson sides till round 3 I think.

Nelson Suburbs received $143,000 in 2014. Seems odd they don't have the funds. It seems they do.

Some dodgy dealings by the look of this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/79039468/nelson-suburbs-need-to-find-funds-to-enter-footballs-chatham-cup

The oddest thing about Nelson Suburbs is that they're chucking nearly 40 grand into flying for every MPL game.

I'm fairly certain the 7 Chch clubs bus (at least for the most part) in the reverse situation?

Obviously there are issues re what bussing does to the body, but surely the CC is more prestigious than the MPL, and they could find some balance? Suburbs could probably beat 4/7 Chch clubs while being less than their best.

Added bonus for NZF promotional bods: Siggy will be playing Chatham Cup.

And $58,240 on an Operations Manager. Very strange. 

meh, paying someone to work for them (even if it seems like an overpay) makes more sense than flying to play in a club league

Bus a few games, and use the savings to enter the cup. 

By moaning like this without exploring at least that option, they're effectively saying NZF should pay for them to fly to some MPL games. 

You can't moan that you don't have the funds (and that NZF should pay) when you choose to fly your squad to amateur club games. 

I think most of the Christchurch teams fly to Nelson when playing Suburbs.

And don't most of them apply for funding to cover this?

That is my understanding.

To me there is still something magic about the chatham cup. The idea that some college team could do really well in it appeals. Remember a few years bwck when Rongotai did really well?

One of the differences between League and Chatham Cup is that the League draw is known well in advance. However, the Cup draw can give hardly any time to fund or plan an away trip, especially if there's an unexpected supplementary round like in 2003 where Rangers AFC (of Christchurch) had to travel to Nelson for the second time in the Cup that season.

Fundraise early and throughout the season in preparation for a cup run? If it's not needed then reinvest into the club? Or is that too logical?

Nelson believe they are likely to progress deep into the Cup. There is a 50% chance they will have to travel away each round. A risk they are not willing to take. Traveling to Dunedin or Auckland would be expensive.

But all this is odd because they do have funds according to Tony Smith's article. The playing group want to play Chatham Cup too.

My bad on Christchurch teams not flying - seems a bit ridiculous, especially for the ones that aren't Cashmere Tech

Summary of prelim round results (winners in bold)

Northern Wairoa FC v University of Auckland, 

Colo Boys Football Club v Cambridge FC, 

Waitemata City AFC v South Auckland Rangers, 

Internationale FC v Tokoroa FC, 

Lynn-Avon United v Kerikeri FC, 

Waiheke United AFC v West Hamilton United FC, 

Central Brown AFC v Auckland Volcanoes FC, 

Waikato Unicol AFC v Auckland Wanderers, 

Bohemian Celtic ASFA v Warkworth, 

Mt Wellington Unimount Bohemian Celtic CL v Northern United FC, 

Ngongotaha v Old Blues FC, 

Taupo AFC v Rotorua Premier Men’s, 

Matamata Swifts AFC v Otumoetai FC, 

Papatoetoe United FC v Ranui Swanson FC, 

Kamo v Zamantix Rovers FC, 

Norwest United v Bucklands Beach AFC, 

Glen Eden United v Drury UFC

West End AFC v Waihopai AFC, 

Melchester Rovers v Gore Wanderers AFC, 

Timaru Boys’ High First XI v Thistle AFC

First round draw (which should include everyone else, bar the Northern Premier League teams, a handful from the Central Premier League, and maybe one or two from down south) is Tuesday, or so I've been told.

Mt Wellington UniMount Bohemian Celtic CL.

What a mouthful! 

I was at Northern Wairoa vs University of Auckland. My write-up and photos are here for anyone interested:

https://in-the-back-of-the.net/2016/04/25/northern-exposure/

:-)

Talk is a couple of Wellington sides have been added to the draw so that should fudge up all their nice info-graphics.

wharf and Naenae by any chance?

Potentially.

They're tough lads down Drury way.

Chatham Cup for Capital (Home teams first)

I might go to the WeeNix v Naenae game, shame it wasn't a Naenae home game.

Have you been to Naenae Park lately?

The only pitch is 'interestingly' postioned.

Yes and the pitch could have been a leveller against the young WeeNix boys... Now they will be playing on Newtown Park 

Also missed that Marist PN and Napier got the Byes to the next round

Good to see Eastbourne entered this year. Always nice to have a bit of variety in terms of clubs. 

When is this round being played? 

14/15 May

Wakefield for a doubler header!

Just our of interest, to help me put these comments in perspective, how many of those offering advice here to Nelson on how to run their affairs have ever administered or fund-raised for a regional league club with big travel commitments? Tks.

Yes I think there have been 284 rounds in the Mainland Premier League since it started in 2002 and only in two season when Richmond Athletic were in MPL has Suburbs not have had to travel to Christchurch for an away game so nearly 140 trips to Christchurch over the years for Suburbs to cover the costs for.   

Ahh yes, the old "if you've never been a pro who are you to say anything about the merits a pro player?" argument.

I daresay you've never been a lawyer Bruce, but would still have opinions about the statutes and rules that govern the game.

A silly argument.