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Awwwww Ref - Know The Laws

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over 12 years ago

A match is 1-1 with 15 minutes to go when a player goes down, plainly badly injured. Both teams attempt to form huddles while the player is treated and eventually carried off, but the ref says "no huddles - stay where you are". Where is this in LOTG (laws of the game)?  

over 12 years ago

Ha!!! That's a hoot. All teams do it. Some even come to the bench and get water and coaching.... 

What a joke.

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over 12 years ago

So you can't even go check to see how your team mate is? I'd tell the ref to get fucked.

Three for me, and two for them.

over 12 years ago

I don't think he means around the injured player Buffy

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over 12 years ago

Yes. The proposed huddles were well away from the injured player. And when the huddles were denied, several players did head for the sideline to get a drink.

over 12 years ago

The only thing in the Laws regarding this is that drink bottles are to be handed not thrown. 

I can see where the referee is coming from, not wanting there to be a longer delay than necessary, but this is best solved by a quick word along the lines off "It's all good to go into a huddle if you want, but when the injured player leaves, we'll look to get things going again straight away so be aware"

over 12 years ago

Drop ball sounds about right. Not one of the players and would be no different than a dog or a spectator.

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over 12 years ago

Yeah, Drop ball. And you'd send him from the Technical area as well (not that he'd wanna be sticking around anyway)

over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

You Are The Ref

You are Australian and refereeing an international friendly.  A dark skinned player wearing red is crudely tackled from behind by a fine upstanding player wearing white.  As the wimpy yet swarthy middle eastern gent collapses face down on the ground, the white shirted athlete makes a valiant attempt to jump over the flailing legs of the inconsiderate non-caucasion. Unfortunately the really nice chap in white mis-times the jump (could happen to anyone) and lands with both feet on a leg of Johnny foreigner who fails to get out of the way.

Do you:

a) Wave play on?

b) Mildly rebuke the lad (he is a koywoy after all)?

c) Caution the red-shirted player?

d) Write the incident up in your match report and then go back home to Melbourne and post it on the Victory website before some wog hacks into the site and crashes it?

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over 12 years ago

That has to be one of the funniest things I have a ever read on this forum. That's a real cracker.

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over 12 years ago

Does the player involved do a lot of good work for charity (mate)?

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over 12 years ago

Quite possibly.  Although this is a purely hypotheical scenario.


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over 12 years ago

Is the player a really humble guy that has given his all for the shirt and everything else his missus says about him?

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

As I said it's hypothetical, but OK let's go with that:

The player is a very well respected team member.  Born in Abu Dhabi, he comes from humble origins, yet his status as a professional footballer means that he has been able to quietly contribute a lot to the red crescent society and medicin sans frontiers.  He has also campaigned strongly to allow the wearing of thigh high burqas (for men AND women) and is a strong advocate of Israel and Palestine living side by side like keys on a piano keyboard.


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over 12 years ago

Although he hates cats.


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over 12 years ago

All strangely surreal.

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

over 12 years ago

I just read this and burst out laughing spraying half an apple out of my mouth onto my laptop. This is hilarious (and messy. Must not eat while reading)

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

I just read this and burst out laughing spraying half an apple out of my mouth onto my laptop. This is hilarious (and messy. Must not eat while reading)


Half an apple???? Big mouth or small apples????
over 12 years ago


Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

over 12 years ago


over 12 years ago

    What have we done to this thread?




Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

over 12 years ago

Well there is more than enough evidence on this forum to suggest I have a big mouth and small apples :o)

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

Well there is more than enough evidence on this forum to suggest I have a big mouth and small apples :o)


I am far to polite to overtly suggest such a thing JV
over 12 years ago

Dude I would have taken that and slammed it home while it was a freebie :o)

I like to think I have a decent strong opinion but I also identify that I do write some shit and fly off the handle with emotions. Enough with confessional...

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over 12 years ago

Not wanting to divert thread too or turn into a circle jerk, I enjoy your posts JV, I certainly do not always agree with them but there is usually an explained logic behind them. If only some others were the same ..... 

over 12 years ago

Never happen

A dog with a bone :)

over 12 years ago

How does a ref deal with this? Friend Jonathan, in Washington DC in the USA, told me this.


Local league match with about seventy people watching.

Ball was cleared by the goal keeper and as players followed the ball back a defender struck, punched, an attacking player. Knocked him to the ground Nobody saw it EXCEPT a spectator. The spectator went on to the pitch and grabbed the offending player and took him off the pitch. Dragged him down to the bench and told the coach that the player was being subbed. The referee had come over to see what was going on. He told the spectator that he couldn't do what he was doing.  The spectator (who was a big guy) then told the ref that if the player wasn't substituted he would call the police and have him, the player, arrested (for assault). Player got subbed and game continued.

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

over 12 years ago
dairyflat wrote:

How does a ref deal with this? Friend Jonathan, in Washington DC in the USA, told me this.


Local league match with about seventy people watching.

Ball was cleared by the goal keeper and as players followed the ball back a defender struck, punched, an attacking player. Knocked him to the ground Nobody saw it EXCEPT a spectator. The spectator went on to the pitch and grabbed the offending player and took him off the pitch. Dragged him down to the bench and told the coach that the player was being subbed. The referee had come over to see what was going on. He told the spectator that he couldn't do what he was doing.  The spectator (who was a big guy) then told the ref that if the player wasn't substituted he would call the police and have him, the player, arrested (for assault). Player got subbed and game continued.


I reckon the ref is in charge and there will be no action.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

over 12 years ago

Last time I went to a game at the HoF the ref told players they could not huddle during a long injury break. Today when I went back to the HoF for the SO v PNM game, guess what? Two injury  breaks....both teams huddling both times.  

over 12 years ago

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/19/jose-mourinho-chelsea#

For no.3 - if the situation was that both the defender and the goalie committed dangerous tackles would they not both receive red cards?

As I read TLoTG the ref can only give a player (inc subs) a card - but that does not mean he can only give ONE card for an incident.


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over 12 years ago

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/19/jose-mourinho-chelsea#

For no.3 - if the situation was that both the defender and the goalie committed dangerous tackles would they not both receive red cards?

As I read TLoTG the ref can only give a player (inc subs) a card - but that does not mean he can only give ONE card for an incident.


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over 12 years ago

Fifa has made some of it's referee development software available online for free download. Although they are big files would highly recommend them.

The last one "INTERACTIVE QUIZ ON THE LAWS OF THE GAME" is very good even for those without a refereeing background

www.labhipermedia.ent/descargas/

over 12 years ago

You are the ref has some interesting ones this week:


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over 12 years ago
otagofan wrote:

Fifa has made some of it's referee development software available online for free download. Although they are big files would highly recommend them.

The last one "INTERACTIVE QUIZ ON THE LAWS OF THE GAME" is very good even for those without a refereeing background

www.labhipermedia.ent/descargas/


Couldn't get the link but found this:

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over 12 years ago

1) Play on

2) Can't make sub

3) Play on

over 12 years ago

Ref 3: I saw the Olympic bronze medal playoff in 1972 when at halftime in extra time it was announced that if there was no winner everyone would get a bronze medal. They pretty much stopped playing and 15 mins later they all got their medals.

over 12 years ago


1) Play on

2) Can sub

3) Play on

over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

^^^same....have you got the correct answers?

over 12 years ago

I would have thought that he could be subbed (assuming subs available and not used up).  Or he could be replaced by an outfield player.

3) was the one I found most amusing as the ref can't really do anything about collusion.


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