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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Only if someone laid an actual complaint... or the card had the names on it and it's picked up by CF.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Only if someone laid an actual complaint... or the card had the names on it and it's picked up by CF.

This is what I'm worried about - surely LH wouldn't have been silly enough to use the actual players name who was suspended on the team card? We all know it's not hard to play an ineligible player under someone else's name and hope/assume no one will bother checking it out.

Is it up to Tawa to lay a complaint?

We'll be praying for a draw or Wairarapa win in their game with LH.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

nz300170 wrote:

....even heard there was a photograper who got pictures of the player concerned

That photographer was trying to take photos of the ref after he called the game off, made a real arse of himself.

A dog with a bone :)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Not as much of an arse as Lower Hutt if they lose the points over this

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

nightz wrote:

nz300170 wrote:

....even heard there was a photograper who got pictures of the player concerned

That photographer was trying to take photos of the ref after he called the game off, made a real arse of himself.

Nightz - yoiu seem to know about LH in this league- can you tell us if Patterson was playing (illegally)?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

When will a call be made on the the Tawa v Lower Hutt game be made?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Surely the game will have to be replayed as it has massive implications to both the top and bottom of the league.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Pilonidal Sinus wrote:

Surely the game will have to be replayed as it has massive implications to both the top and bottom of the league.

Agreed on the implications, for both top and bottom of the league. However, surely LH, by fielding an ineligible player, should have to forfeit? It seems there is enough evidence (although I do take the point that the majority of statements in this thread are heresay) to warrant an investigation at least.

Are any of the Tawa boys able to shed some light on any action their club might be taking? Can other clubs make a complaint if they weren't directly involved?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

stupid of lower hutt really.. the lower hutt 2nd team played on the same pitch after our game against kapiti, some of the boys stayed to watch, hence saw Patterson get sent off... Then the next week when we play lower hutt 3rds, Patterson was playing despite his suspension.

Yeah I'm from tawa and im 99% sure a complaint has been laid.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

nightz wrote:

nz300170 wrote:

....even heard there was a photograper who got pictures of the player concerned

That photographer was trying to take photos of the ref after he called the game off, made a real arse of himself.

Nightz - yoiu seem to know about LH in this league- can you tell us if Patterson was playing (illegally)?

No, I cant Feverish, not even able to say if he took the field or not.

As someone who has been sent off regularly maybe you can clarify something for me.

If there was an appeal about the sending off,

1: with the current state of CF in not acting on appeals in a timely manner, would a player be able to play in the meantime?

2: Does CF have to advise the club how many games the player misses before the ban takes affect?

Thanks

A dog with a bone :)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

how many weeks would a player face on the sidelines if there was sufficient evidence that a player headbutted an opposing player??

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

nightz wrote:

Feverish wrote:

nightz wrote:

nz300170 wrote:

....even heard there was a photograper who got pictures of the player concerned

That photographer was trying to take photos of the ref after he called the game off, made a real arse of himself.

Nightz - yoiu seem to know about LH in this league- can you tell us if Patterson was playing (illegally)?

No, I cant Feverish, not even able to say if he took the field or not.

As someone who has been sent off regularly maybe you can clarify something for me.

If there was an appeal about the sending off,

1: with the current state of CF in not acting on appeals in a timely manner, would a player be able to play in the meantime?

2: Does CF have to advise the club how many games the player misses before the ban takes affect?

Thanks

why cant you just tell us if he played or not

no such thing as an appeal basically. Automatic one week min

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Just give them a point each and let Upper Hutt take out the league. Lol

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Cougars wrote:

Pilonidal Sinus wrote:

Surely the game will have to be replayed as it has massive implications to both the top and bottom of the league.

Are any of the Tawa boys able to shed some light on any action their club might be taking? Can other clubs make a complaint if they weren't directly involved?

you guys should get the Dreamers to play for you v Tawa this week

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Would that be the Wharfies Dreamers or the Wellington United Dreamers?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

you guys should get the Dreamers to play for you v Tawa this week

Thanks for the offer Greenie but we've got this far on our own merits (not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing) so not sure Dan would want to have ring ins.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

was just trying to wind up Tawa.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Axeman wrote:

Just give them a point each and let Upper Hutt take out the league. Lol

Haha no way mate, lower hutt were gonna get all 3!

Jokes, you never know in football aye, just can't beleave the referee called the game off.

Ohh well as it will probably be replayed, we will do our best for you axeman.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Easty17 wrote:

Axeman wrote:

Just give them a point each and let Upper Hutt take out the league. Lol

Haha no way mate, lower hutt were gonna get all 3!

Jokes, you never know in football aye, just can't beleave the referee called the game off.

Ohh well as it will probably be replayed, we will do our best for you axeman.

Easty, do you have anything to say about playing a suspended player?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If he wasnt on the team card, there isnt much that can be done is there?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

well it'd be pretty extreme for a team to make something like that up dont you think?
so surely theryd have to take our word on it?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Plus photographic evidence that shows the player in question and the number he's wearing. Our coach knows Andrew and NeilWgtn appears to have grown up with him. I don't see any Lower Hutt players here denying it.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Spurs crazy wrote:

If he wasnt on the team card, there isnt much that can be done is there?

If he wasn't on the team card then what was he doing on the pitch, hmmm

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Oranje wrote:

tbh its only ever tawa'ites and nightz on here anyway.

i presume tawa has already laid a compliant so lets just move on, capital football will deal with it how they seem fit.

+ no place in football for headbutts - that should be dealt with on a side issue - guess it dosn't help ref didnt see it but yea dont condone that sh*t at all - heard the player concerned even admitted he did he - he should retire - disgracefull.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bobboltontawa2 wrote:

Oranje wrote:

tbh its only ever tawa'ites and nightz on here anyway.

i presume tawa has already laid a compliant so lets just move on, capital football will deal with it how they seem fit.

you've changed man..

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

bobboltontawa2 wrote:

Oranje wrote:

tbh its only ever tawa'ites and nightz on here anyway.

i presume tawa has already laid a compliant so lets just move on, capital football will deal with it how they seem fit.

you've changed man..

I think his account got hacked. This is most unlike him

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

at the start of the season im quoted as saying going out to break peoples legs is fine.... i stand by this comment.... head butting is in a different league.... cant belive this guy told the rest of his team he did it and then all these people come on here squqaling over illegal players....

if your player hadnt of headbutted and you won would you still be on here crying?

presume not.....

tawas got as much to be ashamed about as lower hutt in my view.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Mmmm okay to break legs but not head butt sh*t is that some twisted logic.Both just as bad and have no part in football.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Easty17 wrote:

Axeman wrote:

Just give them a point each and let Upper Hutt take out the league. Lol

Haha no way mate, lower hutt were gonna get all 3!

Jokes, you never know in football aye, just can't beleave the referee called the game off.

Ohh well as it will probably be replayed, we will do our best for you axeman.

Sweet, cheers mate

. Make sure yous do get all 3 points if it gets replayed. Lol.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

ballane wrote:

Mmmm okay to break legs but not head butt sh*t is that some twisted logic.Both just as bad and have no part in football.

"go out there to break a leg" is a phrase dont litreally walk up to someone and break their legs.

dipsh*t.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

swandry wrote:

well it'd be pretty extreme for a team to make something like that up dont you think?
so surely theryd have to take our word on it?

I don't think theyll just be taking anyones word on it.

Especially because at the game the so called team who's word they'd be taking, Lied about a head butt that clearly happened and pleeded innocence to anything to do with the scuffle, when it clearly escelated because of the muppet who ran in and booted a guy on the ground then proceeded to stand over him as if he was ten foot tall and bullet proof, but then again that never happened either.

All in all tho I think if a match is abandoned then everything is void really, its as if the game never happened.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

let's make the rematch a steel cage match. Might even see Carni and Ruben invloved

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

let's make the rematch a steel cage match. Might even see Carni and Ruben invloved

Naa, their stomachs would get in the way.

But what about this to throw a spanner into the works. What say Lower Hutt didn't receive the paper work from CF in time therefore making Patterson eligible to play. It's happened before.

Pilonidal Sinus2009-08-12 11:18:38

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I agree with you Pilonidal Sinus, We had this last year with a player being booked the week before. And if my memory is good enough that player was allowed to play as CF hadnt sent paperwork to club. He was stood down the week after.
A club doesnt have to stand a player down without being notified by CF.

Can anyone confirm this, at the moment alot of people on here unsure of the rules.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

On receipt of a protest, if any team is found guilty of playing a player who is

not listed on the teamcard, or plays a player under an assumed or false name,

the following sanctions will apply:

a) the offending Club shall forfeit any points gained - the opposing Club is to

be credited with a 2 - 0 winning result

b) a fine of $100.00 per offending player will be imposed on the offending

Club if a Champs Premier League team is involved, $50.00 fine for any

other League

c) if both Clubs are found to be in breach, the match result shall be cancelled.

Fines as above shall be imposed.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

A player dismissed from a game shall be automa tically suspended for one (1)

playing day. Any further disciplinary action shall be decided by the Manager

in accordance with NZ Football Regulation 7.

It was the same down in the MPL - as soon as you have been shown a red, you are automatically suspended for one playing day. CF don't need to confirm that in writing before your next match.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Shark Attack wrote:

A player dismissed from a game shall be automa tically suspended for one (1)

playing day. Any further disciplinary action shall be decided by the Manager

in accordance with NZ Football Regulation 7.

It was the same down in the MPL - as soon as you have been shown a red, you are automatically suspended for one playing day. CF don't need to confirm that in writing before your next match.

Yea I thaught that was the case, good work.

What we still dont really know is how this affects a game that was abonded.

Is it like everything else in that game e.g goals, cards etc... and means nothing?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Easty17 wrote:

All in all tho I think if a match is abandoned then everything is void really, its as if the game never happened.

hhhmm im not sure on the actual rules... but personally I don't think that the match being abandoned should affect the default 2-0 win to tawa... Since the illegal player was on the field when the game started, the game's result was 2 nil tawa as soon as the ref blew the whistle to start the game, the fact that the game was abandoned after that doesn't affect anything.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

swandry wrote:

Easty17 wrote:

All in all tho I think if a match is abandoned then everything is void really, its as if the game never happened.

CF regs for abandoned matches are:

Any match abandoned for any reason shall be reported immediately to the

Manager. This responsibility lies with the Referee, if present, or the Home

team. After considering the facts, the Manager may decide that

a) the score at the time of the abandonment shall stand, or

b) the match will be re-scheduled to another date.

I think the same as you Swandry, in that the game was started before it was abandoned, and then the regs for an ineligible player would take precedence over the regs for an abandoned match.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think the only equitable solution is for the Cougars to be awarded the three points, Lower Hutt to get fined $3,000 , Easty to get a life ban, and Patterson forced to play a game against the Kittenz so he gets beaten up and taught a lesson. Just my thoughts.

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