Think we should get more quality refs in. Or atleast breeed some good ones
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Think we should get more quality refs in. Or atleast breeed some good ones
I'm willing to help out with that. 
A dog with a bone :)
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The news going around work is that Andy Barron has signed for Miramar
-confirmed by one of the 'Mar boys at work
Shark Attack2009-07-02 10:50:43
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The news going around work is that Andy Barron has signed for Miramar
-confirmed by one of the 'Mar boys at work
Standing in line at Social Welfare to collect your unemployment check at is not work...
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The news going around work is that Andy Barron has signed for Miramar
Fact.
-confirmed by one of the 'Mar boys at work
Plus a former Man utd reserve player (defender) is arriving on Tuesday. Apparently he has been in Untd's academy since he was 9. Think i heard he is 19ish.
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The news going around work is that Andy Barron has signed for Miramar
Fact.
-confirmed by one of the 'Mar boys at work
Plus a former Man utd reserve player (defender) is arriving on Tuesday. Apparently he has been in Untd's academy since he was 9. Think i heard he is 19ish.
a wee bit about james derbyshire, man U reserve coming to Miramar?
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So miramar have now signed, Barron, Cowen and Utting.
Can anyone confirm.
Heard these from a number of people.
Can anyone confirm.
Heard these from a number of people.
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The Only Player is Bazza(was there on the weekend) Not Cowan and Utting. Is a C Banks at Fiji Utd??
Oh and some other guy from overseas's who has played a bit......
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Utting was in goal for the Mar 3rds in Cap 2 at the weekend
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What a mirimar doing?? how they doing this and why? haha, rovers gonna be in for a tough weekend
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Anyone else finding the standard of refereeing in the Central League is atrocious?
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Underdog2009-07-07 20:06:15
DECISION TIME: Referee Matt Stoneman gives captain Greg Clark a red card shortly after Clarky received an elbow to the face in a tackle and ignored the ref when he 'spoke' with the Lower Hutt player.
Referee Matt Stoneman took centre stage as Team Taranaki succumbed 5-1 to Lower Hutt City in its Central League football clash at Pukekura Park in New Plymouth yesterday.
In a curious display, the official sent off two Energyworks Team Taranaki players, found grounds to disallow three goals for the home side and awarded a penalty to City.
Many of Stoneman's decisions were contentious and Team Taranaki intends filing an official complaint after becoming exasperated with the local whistleblower.
"I think we have to [file a complaint] but not just on the back of today over the last two games we've had some very controversial decisions," said Team Taranaki head coach Ian McGrath.
"I think he's influenced the outcome of the game today, it's as simple as that. And when you get an official who is hell-bent on making crucial decisions like that it is very difficult to take."
The first such decision yesterday came about 12 minutes when Team Taranaki skipper Greg Clark bundled the ball into the net from a free kick but was judged to have fouled the keeper.If that ruling was understandable the next on 23 minutes was less so.
In a harsh decision Stoneman showed Clark a straight red card for foul language just after the defender was clattered in a late challenge for which he had been awarded a free kick.
From the ensuing free kick Team Taranaki had the ball in the net again, but this time Tomas Mosquera had offended and the goal was ruled out.
Curiously, 10-man Team Taranaki did hit the front on the half-hour, Mark Bland hitting a trademark finish from the edge of the box after a corner was poorly cleared.
City striker Luis Corrales equalised with the first of a controversial hat-trick before the break. The Costa Rican appeared to have committed a clear foul before shooting, but this time Stoneman saw nothing wrong.
Corrales made it 2-1 just after the restart again in dubious circumstances. The referee's assistant had flagged for an infringement and, with both sides waiting for the non-existent whistle, the Wellington Phoenix triallist strolled through to score.
With Team Taranaki now in disarray, Corrales got a third when he flicked on a Pedro Garcias shot and minutes later he was uprooted in the box to earn a penalty which Sam Blackburn slotted for 4-1.
Mosquera, meanwhile, had another goal disallowed and Nick Betteridge was sent off for a second yellow card after offering Stoneman some officiating advice. Garcias ended the match in style for the football purist, curling a fine free kick directly into the Team Taranaki goal but, by then, only one man had the attention of the home supporters.
LOWER HUTT CITY 5 (L. Corrales 3, S. Blackburn, P. Garcia goals) TEAM TARANAKI 1 (M. Bland goal).
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Holi shieza!
Where in the hell did this derbyshire come from?
Does anyone else find it a bit dodgey?
He MUST be getting a fair amount of cash each week in order to come over from England to New Zealand.
From United Reserves to Miramar. Why not just go and play Championship?
Anyone heard anything?
Where in the hell did this derbyshire come from?
Does anyone else find it a bit dodgey?
He MUST be getting a fair amount of cash each week in order to come over from England to New Zealand.
From United Reserves to Miramar. Why not just go and play Championship?
Anyone heard anything?
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Anyone else finding the standard of refereeing in the Central League is atrocious?
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DECISION TIME: Referee Matt Stoneman gives captain Greg Clark a red card shortly after Clarky received an elbow to the face in a tackle and ignored the ref when he 'spoke' with the Lower Hutt player.
Referee Matt Stoneman took centre stage as Team Taranaki succumbed 5-1 to Lower Hutt City in its Central League football clash at Pukekura Park in New Plymouth yesterday.
In a curious display, the official sent off two Energyworks Team Taranaki players, found grounds to disallow three goals for the home side and awarded a penalty to City.
Many of Stoneman's decisions were contentious and Team Taranaki intends filing an official complaint after becoming exasperated with the local whistleblower.
"I think we have to [file a complaint] but not just on the back of today over the last two games we've had some very controversial decisions," said Team Taranaki head coach Ian McGrath.
"I think he's influenced the outcome of the game today, it's as simple as that. And when you get an official who is hell-bent on making crucial decisions like that it is very difficult to take."
The first such decision yesterday came about 12 minutes when Team Taranaki skipper Greg Clark bundled the ball into the net from a free kick but was judged to have fouled the keeper.If that ruling was understandable the next on 23 minutes was less so.
In a harsh decision Stoneman showed Clark a straight red card for foul language just after the defender was clattered in a late challenge for which he had been awarded a free kick.
From the ensuing free kick Team Taranaki had the ball in the net again, but this time Tomas Mosquera had offended and the goal was ruled out.
Curiously, 10-man Team Taranaki did hit the front on the half-hour, Mark Bland hitting a trademark finish from the edge of the box after a corner was poorly cleared.
City striker Luis Corrales equalised with the first of a controversial hat-trick before the break. The Costa Rican appeared to have committed a clear foul before shooting, but this time Stoneman saw nothing wrong.
Corrales made it 2-1 just after the restart again in dubious circumstances. The referee's assistant had flagged for an infringement and, with both sides waiting for the non-existent whistle, the Wellington Phoenix triallist strolled through to score.
With Team Taranaki now in disarray, Corrales got a third when he flicked on a Pedro Garcias shot and minutes later he was uprooted in the box to earn a penalty which Sam Blackburn slotted for 4-1.
Mosquera, meanwhile, had another goal disallowed and Nick Betteridge was sent off for a second yellow card after offering Stoneman some officiating advice. Garcias ended the match in style for the football purist, curling a fine free kick directly into the Team Taranaki goal but, by then, only one man had the attention of the home supporters.
LOWER HUTT CITY 5 (L. Corrales 3, S. Blackburn, P. Garcia goals) TEAM TARANAKI 1 (M. Bland goal).
I know of this referee quite well. I prefer not to slag off referees as I fully empathise with the position they are in, but this young gentleman has had many similar games in the past.
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Isn't it obvious there's a problem with young referees refereeing in the top leagues? My view on that is that these young guys can't have played the game at a high level if they have already chosen to pursue a refereeing career. I think that they struggle to read the game and keep up with it because of that. I also think that the pressure can get to them in the bigger games/leagues.
I know we need young refs coming through but I think that maybe they might need to learn more about the game before refereeing at central league level.
In this particular guys defense, I have played in a national secondary schools tournament final that he refereed and he had a very good game. I actually think he may have been awarded 'referee of the tournament'. I think he will be okay in the future but it is obvious he had a little too much influence on the TT v LHC game and might need to learn a thing or two from it. It will be interesting to see the outcome of the complaint from TT.
Fuck this stupid game
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I've had that young guy referee me. He's over officious and completely aggressive towards the players when makin decisions which inevitably get's your back up. I realise that there is a refereeing shortage and young guys should be encouraged but I don't believe that refereeing can be seen as an independednt strand from playing football, young guys cannot be a good referee if you don't understand the game, understand the frustrations that the players are under, and respond accordingly. I think it is also very difficult for the players when the referee is younger than them, it's hard to take them seriously.
Normo's coming home
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Dont be too harsh on him he's a manager at Mcdonalds
Too be fair hes reffered me before aswell and is sh*te, last year got chased of the field and locked himself in the changing rooms, if anyone remembers the article. Sauce
But he's sh*t, its good to have young refferes and also have this respect policy but it's not going to work when they try to dominate the game
Too be fair hes reffered me before aswell and is sh*te, last year got chased of the field and locked himself in the changing rooms, if anyone remembers the article. Sauce
But he's sh*t, its good to have young refferes and also have this respect policy but it's not going to work when they try to dominate the game
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I've voiced my opinion plenty on refs and how we should always support them.
Maybe we should do what Rugby is doing - http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/2583151/Teen-suspended-for-pushing-ref - Suspend an U-16 player for pushing and abusing a ref - reckon we'd have 1 person suspended a week if we did that. HOWEVER my old man was in town last weekend (from Chch), he's a qualified referee inspector, and he was amazed at the EXTREMELY low level of abuse in the Petone - PN Marist game. So maybe we aint so bad
Maybe we should do what Rugby is doing - http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/2583151/Teen-suspended-for-pushing-ref - Suspend an U-16 player for pushing and abusing a ref - reckon we'd have 1 person suspended a week if we did that. HOWEVER my old man was in town last weekend (from Chch), he's a qualified referee inspector, and he was amazed at the EXTREMELY low level of abuse in the Petone - PN Marist game. So maybe we aint so bad
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Or it had one of the best refs officiating
A dog with a bone :)
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Maybe - his first impression was pretty average. And he thought the linesman were completely inept.
Or maybe Petone dominated the game so much, the ref had little to deal with
Or maybe Petone dominated the game so much, the ref had little to deal with
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Olympic 4 Lower Hutt 0
A dog with a bone :)
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PN Marist 1 - WU 0
The Titanic just snapped in two
The Titanic just snapped in two
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loved it in the clubrooms today, brendan m was giving his aftermatch speech, he commented on how many chances his team "missed" then at the end he said the bubbles keeper mad one or two saves!
My name is nic you f*&k wit!
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Oh come on nick take it easy there son.
Although well played on your part i must add.
Lower Hutt had some good early chances, couldnt finish. We also missed a couple sitters really.
Second half it opened up and LH didnt want a piece of it.
GREAT goals from Mickey, and a even better salmon dive celebration from Mikey.
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Even though I REALLY dislike Olympic! (bit dodgy saying that on this thread I know!) Your midfield totally dominated the second half and Lower Hutt looked lost. First half was much more even though
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Oh come on nick take it easy there son.
Although well played on your part i must add.
Lower Hutt had some good early chances, couldnt finish. We also missed a couple sitters really.
Second half it opened up and LH didnt want a piece of it.
GREAT goals from Mickey, and a even better salmon dive celebration from Mikey.
not a chance, for a guy who coached me and called me through all of last season to not even be able to look me in the eye or say my name. typical from him, quick to make friends and even quicker to turn his back
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I think theres only one way to sort this out..UFC styles.
Nah great game yesterday, game could have been completely different if Lower Hutt had scored early on but thanks to Nick and his pink top it remained scoreless.
I think Olympic fully deserved to win in the end by at least 3-4 goals.. we missed 2 sitters but apart from that we were pretty good. I dont think our attack is the best but I think our defence is class. Barry and Jamie would have to be one of the best central defence line in the league.
As for Luis, once again quiet and missed a couple chances..
Id like to see this Man U player at Miramar sometime, r they at home this weekend? and also does anyone know how much they paid for him? Miramar claims they dont spend any money, I guess it must have been a free transfer..
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Oh come on nick take it easy there son.
Although well played on your part i must add.
Lower Hutt had some good early chances, couldnt finish. We also missed a couple sitters really.
Second half it opened up and LH didnt want a piece of it.
GREAT goals from Mickey, and a even better salmon dive celebration from Mikey.
not a chance, for a guy who coached me and called me through all of last season to not even be able to look me in the eye or say my name. typical from him, quick to make friends and even quicker to turn his back
prob cos you pssed him off royaly 
speaking of that - put that money in the account!
Founder
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Id like to see this Man U player at Miramar sometime, r they at home this weekend? and also does anyone know how much they paid for him? Miramar claims they dont spend any money, I guess it must have been a free transfer..
The young fella was released by Man Utd so it was certainly a 'free transfer'. A connection over there recommended he come over to Miramar to live the dream. He took it up as a chance to gain a bit of experience overseas. If he is getting paid Im not sure what Miramar will be paying him with.
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Depleted Taranaki thumped by Petone
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Petone dished out a 5-2 thumping to a depleted Team Taranaki side in their Central League football fixture at Memorial Park in Lower Hutt on Saturday.
Already rocked by suspensions and injuries, Energyworks Team Taranaki had Nathan Hill withdraw late and regular midfielder Tyson Brandt played despite becoming ill on the Friday night.
Head coach Ian McGrath started reserve keeper Michael Reive at left back and all of the starting 11 played out the full 90 minutes almost unheard of at this level.
"Everybody who travelled down there really did give everything they possibly could, but it was probably too much to handle given the circumstances," said McGrath.
Despite Team Taranaki's problems, the coach wasn't looking for excuses for his side's recent form slump.
"We seem to be in freefall at the moment in terms of conceding goals and a number of circumstances have contributed to that, but at the end of the day we still need to play better and stop conceding the goals we are," McGrath said.
"Of course everybody is disappointed with another heavy defeat, but we have to just turn things around for the last three games to grab more points and more importantly finish the season with pride intact."
Team Taranaki started brightly with Brad Hickling and Tomas Mosquera squandering early chances, but it wasn't long before the home side was in the ascendancy. Petone scored three quick goals from about the 15-minute mark when Richard McLay got the first of his hat-trick, the ball dribbling over the line from a goalmouth melee.
Team Taranaki central defender Jared McElhannan then put the ball into his own net when a close-range centre cannoned off him and into the goal.
McLay scored a classy second before Hickling pulled one back for the visitors using a neat bit of trickery to beat his marker for a 3-1 scoreline at the break.
Team Taranaki stayed with Petone for the first 30 minutes of the second half before fatigue set in and the home side pulled away.
McLay completed his hat-trick with a header from a set piece before Paul Whitmarsh beat the keeper one-on-one to score his side's fifth.
Mark Bland got a further consolation goal for Team Taranaki with blast from the edge of the box.
PETONE 5 (R. McLay, 3, P. Whitmarsh, OG) TEAM TARANAKI 2 (B. Hickling, M. Bland).
The question I have is how are they so depleated when the are a rep side, not a club team?
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Moneys got to be involved for sure..maby a dom row back massage with cash did the trick?
Nah but to be honest its good for the central league (thats if hes actually a standout). I know hes 19 but I expect him to be pretty good for you guyes to get him from England and for him to have played at Man Utd.. Whos Miramar got this week? Home game?
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(2.30pm unless stated)
SATURDAY
CENTRAL LEAGUE:
Wellington United __ Petone __ Newtown;
Miramar Rangers __ Palm Nth Marist __ David Farrington;
Lower Hutt City __ Western Suburbs __ Bell.
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NAPIER 1 MIRAMAR 2
Okay, so referee Conrad Dickinson-Burrows wasn't perfect.
It almost seems as if the Levin whistle blower awarded Bluewater Napier City Rovers a penalty in the 85th minute to make up for not doing so two minutes earlier when Miramar Rangers leftback Jamie Farrington brought down Andrew Abba in the 18m box.
But it would be criminal to blame the referee and ignore the fact that the third-placed Rangers were the better side by virtue of their superior pinpoint passing in their 2-1 victory during their Central League match in Napier yesterday. The sticky Bluewater Stadium surface didn't offer sublime control but the visitors made it look easy.
The pre-match buzz was all about former Manchester United youth and reserve team player James Derbyshire who arrived from England on Tuesday to boost Miramar's chances of lifting the Chatham Cup.
The 19-year-old, almost physically passing off as a schoolboy, didn't disappoint. He was a breath of fresh air, playing out of position on the right wing but distributing balls with the maturity of a seasoned campaigner despite duffing freekicks, cornerkicks and attempts at goal.
Rangers coach John Cameron told SportToday: ``He found the going a little hard because he hasn't played since April.
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Cameron, who felt his troops deserved to win, praised Rovers goalkeeper Scott Dunn (pictured) for keeping the hosts within striking distance.
``We're a team that is capable of scoring more goals and it is hard to keep a side like that down when it's clearly obvious that we did most of the attacking.''
Striker Dominic Rowe found the net in the 19th minute from an acute angle on the left flank after out-sprinting Rovers defender Marama Thompson into the 18 box.
Rovers best chance of an equaliser came in the 31st minute when midfielder Ryan Martin's cornerkick found defender Regan Cameron unmarked 5m out on the far post but the header caught left-mid Michael Light's foot on the goal line and bounced out.
Rowe should have pushed Rangers 2-0 up in the 42nd minute after a deft pass across the face of the goalmouth had beaten everyone.
The hosts' 4-4-1 formation didn't offer striker Abba too many options. Logic suggests that one pint-sized striker, despite some dazzling skills, will not make much impact against four experienced tall timber in front of goalkeeper Dylan Hall.
It didn't help that Martin lacked thrust on the left flank and Reiner Bauerfeind, in an almost defensive midfield role, seemed out of place.
The second half started with Rangers centre-mid Andy Barron rifling a shot but Dunn parried. In the 58th minute Rovers centreback Jonathon Taylor saved a goal when he heel-flicked a shot from striker Peter Halstead when rightback Sam Halligan's pass back to Dunn in goal didn't make the 18m box and the challenge from the ensuing 50-50 chase fell at Rowe's feet.
Dunn made two more spectacular saves in succession from Barron and Derbyshire.
It wasn't until the 65th minute that Rovers coach Matt Chandler substituted Martin with Fergus Neill and right winger Daniel Ball with Andy Pickering.
The thrust up front was day and night as Abba fed off the fresh pair on the wings to yield free-kicks from professional fouls.
In the 83rd minute Farrington brought down Abba in the 18m box but the referee waved play on as centre-mid William Stanger retaliated from behind.
Two minutes later the official had people scratching their heads when he pointed to the penalty spot from a throw-in to a player in the 18m box.
Referee Dickinson-Burrows explained after the match that a Rangers defender had placed his hands on a Rovers attacker from behind and shoved him.
Halligan equalised but the joy at the Bluewater Stadium was short-lived as substitute striker John Sutherland stabbed home the winner three minutes into injury time.
Chandler said Martin and Ball did not emulate their feat from the previous match but in their defence claimed the system of play the team had adopted was relatively new and needed tweaking. He rued his team not playing the first half higher up the field and managing the ball better.
``The penalty was almost an afterthought,'' he said, happy with their 20-minute dominance in set pieces.
He hailed Halligan for putting his hand up to take the penalty shot but bemoaned the absence of an experienced Chris McIvor holidaying in Australia.
Mid-table Rovers play Wairarapa United below them in Masterton on Sunday.
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The hosts' 4-4-1 formation
Brilliant
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Does anyone believe there have been any suprises in the league this year?
I didnt think that Wests would have such a great lead on the rest to be honest...
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