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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah Greenie I gave him a mention on the radio like you asked me too.

Did you see Park Life's editorial this week too Marius?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Went and watched Eastbourne Naked Mole Rats vs Wests today.

Fair play to Eastbourne for putting their best foot forward.  They were doing pretty well too for about ten minutes.  Had parked the bus squarely in front of the goal.  And then shanked in an own goal to open the scoring.

Their central defensive pairing of a tiny old bloke and a lanky middle-aged fella wearing number 2 did pretty well.  The had a child playing at right back to did a fair job marking Ben Feld too, despite only just being in his teens (or so it seemed).

Moment of hilarity when one of the senior heads told him (at a corner) to "get on the post and don't leave it for anything".  So he didn't.  Even when the ball was cleared and the game had moved up the pitch.  He stayed there holding that post for dear life.  Bless him.

In the midfield Emmanuel Petit was doing a pretty good impression of himself, and even created the odd opportunity for the Naked Mole Rats to score.

All in all an entertaining day out for everyone except perhaps Jake Gleeson who at one stage fell into a coma from boredom.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Smithy wrote:
Yeah Greenie I gave him a mention on the radio like you asked me too.

Did you see Park Life's editorial this week too Marius?
indeed, quality.
 
Talk further about this during week.
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Feverish wrote:
Mark Fulcher pulled off some quality pen saves for the Wharf v Fiji B. One of the best keepers around I'd say.


Chanelling the angry man though?But was very good, especially on penalties think he picked all four right. Disappointed I couldnt stop one.steelo2009-05-17 22:03:39
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Smithy wrote:
Went and watched Eastbourne Naked Mole Rats vs Wests today.

Their central defensive pairing of a tiny old bloke and a lanky middle-aged fella wearing number 2 did pretty well.  The had a child playing at right back to did a fair job marking Ben Feld too, despite only just being in his teens (or so it seemed).

In the midfield Emmanuel Petit was doing a pretty good impression of himself, and even created the odd opportunity for the Naked Mole Rats to score.

 
Unless he was wearing a face mask, that 'Old bloke' deserved a free cardiac massage for his efforts, he was surely the oldest guy to play against Wests for many a year.  He even inadvertantly blocked a couple of efforts.  He must have been quite pleased to come off after an hour, and to be fair Wests scored about 6 more after that.
 
I thought the No '2' did some good work, with Wests throw-ins reaching the back post quite easily, they were certainly under some pressure back there, but Wests dont pose a huge aerial threat. I like their young centre forward though, he looks very handy.
 
Emmanuel Petit looked quite handy for Eastbourne, but he didnt have a lot of help in midfield and the pace of the West guys ensured Eastbourne didnt have the ball for long.
 
I noticed the "child" at right back too, he was certainly quite young looking (possibly 45 years younger than the guy playing alongside him!) but tried admirably. I thought he was marking Charlize, he was certainly told to stick right next to him no matter what.
 
 
 
Newbie2009-05-17 22:46:58
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Smithy wrote:


Their central defensive pairing of a tiny old bloke and a lanky middle-aged fella wearing number 2 did pretty well.  The had a child playing at right back to did a fair job marking Ben Feld too, despite only just being in his teens (or so it seemed).




OI!!  That old bloke is Bill Pllu and he's, I believe, fifty one.  Some of us should take note. Look after yourself (stay injury free) and you can play decent football for a while.
I first met Bill in 1983 , YES 1983, when Bill and I were playing for Eastbourne.

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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monkeyboy wrote:
. Ref managed to control the game well until SO's CB got a bit niggly with our CF, got a verbal warning the first time, but second time was a tad more in the refs eye and was shown a red card. [/QUOTE]

Alec could/should have been sent off THREE times.


Was a tad miffed when a foul went against us our CM got kicked in the face and the ref gave the foul against us said "for his head being too low" ????!? Definitely had me lost on that one.



If you stick you face down that low it's dangerous play. It was a correct decision.

[QUOTE=monkeyboy]Should be a good rematch next weekend, we will be back to full strength and will make for a very interesting game.


Indeed. The wind utterly ruined Saturday's match.
dairyflat2009-05-18 09:42:45
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 "If you stick you face down that low it's dangerous play. It was a correct decision."

Really Dairyflat

So for example if a forward dives to head the ball into the net and at the same time gets a kick in the head for his troubles does the ref then disallow the goal and give a free kick against the attacker for dangerous play. if you are correct than i have learned something new.
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footieguy31 wrote:
 "If you stick you face down that low it's dangerous play. It was a correct decision."

Really Dairyflat

So for example if a forward dives to head the ball into the net and at the same time gets a kick in the head for his troubles does the ref then disallow the goal and give a free kick against the attacker for dangerous play. if you are correct than i have learned something new.


Yep, it happens. I have a piece of a tooth missing from just such an incident (YEARS ago). Got down real low and scored , got a good boot in the mouth. Ref gave the free kick against me for dangerous play. Might be interesting to hear/read what the current guidance is given to refs on this one. Anyone got any ideas?
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
dairyflat wrote:
footieguy31 wrote:
 "If you stick you face down that low it's dangerous play. It was a correct decision."

Really Dairyflat

So for example if a forward dives to head the ball into the net and at the same time gets a kick in the head for his troubles does the ref then disallow the goal and give a free kick against the attacker for dangerous play. if you are correct than i have learned something new.


Yep, it happens. I have a piece of a tooth missing from just such an incident (YEARS ago). Got down real low and scored , got a good boot in the mouth. Ref gave the free kick against me for dangerous play. Might be interesting to hear/read what the current guidance is given to refs on this one. Anyone got any ideas?
At the CBR course Jamie described this kind of thing as dangerous play. The point being that being guilty of dangerous play includes putting yourself in a dangerous position. So the ref was correct.
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I've seen this decision given plenty of times over the years. Basically, a defender, or attacker should be entitled to kick out at a ball that is waist high or below without fear of giving away a free kick. If a player wants to stick his head down there then it's "who dares wins" material.

As a timely sideline, had this rule applied in the egg shaped game then Sir Pinetree wouldnt have got sent off at Murrayfield all those years ago.

We're Forever Causing Trouble

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
"I've seen this decision given plenty of times over the years. Basically, a defender, or attacker should be entitled to kick out at a ball that is waist high or below without fear of giving away a free kick. If a player wants to stick his head down there then it's "who dares wins" material".

In all my time playing in the UK and NZ i have never seen this rule enforced if a player wants to go low to head a ball then its his bad luck. I have seen lots of forwards go in and score diving headers and get a bloody good kick in the head in the process. In this time i have never seen a goal been disallowed for such a act. I am assuming goalies are exempt from this rule because i have never seen a free kick given against the goalkeeper when he goes on the floor and gets a kick in the head for his troubles. However if its a rule then its a rule but it may just be a rule in good old wellington football?



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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Footieguy31 (Joe) why don't you ask 12345 for his opinion he's a referee.
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footieguy31 wrote:
"I've seen this decision given plenty of times over the years. Basically, a defender, or attacker should be entitled to kick out at a ball that is waist high or below without fear of giving away a free kick. If a player wants to stick his head down there then it's "who dares wins" material".

In all my time playing in the UK and NZ i have never seen this rule enforced if a player wants to go low to head a ball then its his bad luck. I have seen lots of forwards go in and score diving headers and get a bloody good kick in the head in the process. In this time i have never seen a goal been disallowed for such a act. I am assuming goalies are exempt from this rule because i have never seen a free kick given against the goalkeeper when he goes on the floor and gets a kick in the head for his troubles. However if its a rule then its a rule but it may just be a rule in good old wellington football?

 
Maybe that's just a rule in 'good old northern English football'?
 
To be fair it's not a call you see often, and like any rule it's a question of interpretation as to what constitutes dangerous play.
 
From a Referees' newsletter I googled: "After 1891 it was considered to be dangerous play if a player raised a foot above hip height and threatened to injure an opponent's upper body, or if an opponent had to withdraw from that type of challenge to save being injured. Dangerous play also includes occasions when players stoop too low to head the ball, thus causing opponents to withdraw their feet instead of risking injury to the person heading the ball (IFAB 1954)."
 
I haven't gone to the difficulty of looking up the decision of the International Football Association Board, but I'm sure it's online somewhere if you'd care to.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I stand corrected by the responses and football knowledge holders research that this must be a rule.
looking forward to the rest of the season now that some refs are on this board i can see this rule getting fully enforced no more low heading of the ball. Anyway congrads to Wharfies on a excellent result.
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well in Wharfies....sh*t the boys were well pissed when they arrived in wgtn after the bus trip back from the rapa
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I saw James Potter at Four Kings and he could not walk or speak.
 
Not sure whether he was drunk or not though.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

DRAW LIVE ON RADIO SPORT AT 11.45 AM TODAY

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Epic
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12.15 FOR THE DRAW NOW..

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

1. Is this a nationwide draw?

2. Can someone post it here as i'm stuck at course and won't be able to listen in?

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That makes more sense. Waddle has little to no interest in Football. Let Yates and Davis host it.
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Not nationwide. I'll do my best for you with particular interest in Birkenhead.
Birkenhead v Glenfield.
sanday2009-05-19 12:22:24
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Wharf v Tawa

Mar v Wests

Bubbles v Petone

Oranje v Dirty Little Stop Out

Founder

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What a draw
Tawa v Karori
Wests V miramar
Wgtn Utd v Stop Out
Petone v Olympic
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which one of these is right?bubles petone at petone or bubbles?
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Waterside-Karori v Tawa
Miramar Rangers v Western Suburbs
Olympic v Petone
Wellington United v Stop Out
From the NZF website. See link above.
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Whats with all games being at 1pm on June 1st (a Monday)???
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
queens birthday lugsy
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Queen's birthday weekend. Monday off.
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Awesome... didn't have that in my work calender
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That will be interesting...all games at 13:00 Monday and the Bubbles and Titanic at home at the same time...  four teams on Newtown at once.

Plus Wharfies at Adventure.
Hard News2009-05-19 13:10:45

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good draw for the Wharf all things considered.

Will we have bubbles fans cry conspiracy again?

Mar and Wests - prob pretty pissed off too.
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Chatham Cup 2009 � Second Round Draw

All games kick off at 2pm on Monday June 1

Northern Region

Manurewa v Ngaruawahia United
Central United v Warkworth
Waitakere City v Bay Olympic
Metro v Onehunga Sports
Hamilton Wanderers v Papakura City
Melville United v Forrest Hill Milford United
Three Kings United v Te Atatu
Bohemian Celtic v Albany United
Waiuku v Papatoetoe
East Coast Bays v Claudelands Rovers
Birkenhead United v Glenfield Rovers
O�Carrolls v Ellerslie
Eastern Suburbs v Mt. Albert Ponsonby
Kerikeri v Takapuna
Onehunga Mangere United v Te Puke
Lynn-Avon United v Mangere United

Central Region

Central Football:
Red Sox Manawatu v FC Western
Napier City Rovers v Palmerston North End
Taradale v Moturoa
Maycenvale United v Fielding United

Capital Football:
Waterside-Karori v Tawa
Miramar Rangers v Western Suburbs
Olympic v Petone
Wellington United v Stop Out

Southern Region

Mainland Football:      
Ferrymead Bays v Nomads
Coastal Spirit v Woolston Technical
Cashmere Wanderers v Christchurch United
Nelson City v Nelson Suburbs

Footballsouth:
Dunedin Tech v Roslyn Wakari
Green Island or Old Boys* v Grants Braes or Waihopai*
Caversham v Northern
Queenstown or West End* v Queens Park or Otago University *

*FootballSouth�s four first round ties will be played on May 23

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The fact that either miramar or wests are going to be out before the 3rd round when you look at some of the poor sides in this list that are going to make the 3rd/4th rounds is a joke.


rough draw for roslyn....
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
News,the NZF website says 1pm K.O's. Have they made an error?
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