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Jack McKnight Jnr Champs 2013

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over 12 years ago
tell those dominant kids to play 2 touch


Agree.  However I see many coaches dismissing all but the dominant kid as 'unable to play/compete'.  Yet the dominant kid is not technically superior, just bigger and stronger.

You're talking about coaching. It's not the small sided game's fault.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago
Clubs should be coaching their own coaches (working in conjunction with FDOs). Feck, i sound like a Mainland staffer.

How many clubs are doing that?  Most clubs are crying out for coaches, and the 'Pub Club's' regard them as little more than child minders.  Some clubs are getting organised but they are a minority.  Mainland - the only way through that door is to be a failed import.



Coastal has had Coach specific options each year. Overall they have been really good. There is also a clear outline for the where the club wants to be / heading too.

The main issue with coach education is the mindset and attitude of the coaches themselves. Some seem to consider themselves above any form of education , appear to struggle interacting with their peers , and engage in wanton big-noting.

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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over 12 years ago

This is quickly turning into my favourite thread.

I let my guitar speak for me

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over 12 years ago

as for Mainland coaching staff it's way harsh to describe them as failed imports. IMO there is a number of excellent coaches there. I'd sooner work with Gareth and Korosh than anyone else I've met in Football Chch.

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I'm not sure what a "pure technical assessment" would look like but sounds pretty ridiculous.
Don't do much coaching then, huh?


Not heaps, no. 

Incidentally, we have some clever tools that tell us when two accounts are being operated by the same person...

Just wait 'til he starts quoting himself. Sounds like a clever tool all by himself, may not need to use yours Smithy :)

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

Snarf. I giggled.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago
VimFuego wrote:

This is quickly turning into my favourite thread.

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
tell those dominant kids to play 2 touch


Agree.  However I see many coaches dismissing all but the dominant kid as 'unable to play/compete'.  Yet the dominant kid is not technically superior, just bigger and stronger.


You're talking about coaching. It's not the small sided game's fault.

Fair point.  Had not really considered it in that light.
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over 12 years ago
foal30 wrote:
Coastal has had Coach specific options each year. Overall they have been really good. There is also a clear outline for the where the club wants to be / heading too.
Wish all the clubs were doing the same.  CashTech have a plan, as do the other large clubs.  Is this because they can afford to employ staff and not just a volunteer base?
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over 12 years ago


Fraid so, and also having quality volunteers too makes a difference.

I let my guitar speak for me

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

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I would be pretty confident that Korosh is not a failure, "Alan". Xavier also is a fantastically qualified coach and the region is bloody lucky to have them here!

And if you find yourself wondering why the door there keeps getting slammed in your face, you might consider taking a bit of a look at yourself. All I have seen in the 4 hours you have been on here has been moaning, criticism and borderline racism/xenophobia. Perhaps you can do a better job than the current crop of clearly terrible ex players? If you think so, then apply. Be sure and bring your NZ equivalent of a UEFA "A" badge, a positive attitude, and your friend "Beckham" to hold your hand eh?

P.S. I am also employed by Mainland, and I have only ever been outside NZ twice, so what does that make me? I seriously cant WAIT to hear your reply. 

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Looks like I've unwittingly blundered into a Mainland Football-sponsored echo chamber!

So we are not allowed to 'moan' or 'criticise', is that it?

You guys take our money  - close to $500 this time - and serve up little more than dross, then try to dress it up as a great experience for our children. The poor coaching, the trials that were obviously poorly run, based on the fact that kids went to tournament who couldn't even kick a ball properly (some were even toe-hacking) means people are NOT HAPPY. 

I'm sorry to break it to you Mr Mainland Football Employee, but we are paying your wages and we have a right to complain.

If you can't handle that, if you only want to hear good things, and only want to have your bellies rubbed, then for goodness' sake, DON'T LEAVE YOUR OFFICE, cause the current mood in the clubs is that you guys are failing us utterly.

You guys don't hold the keys to football. There are some EXTREMELY successful people out there in football land who look at the way you guys run the game and think it's average at best, and abysmal at worst. They just can't be bothered even engaging in a conversation with you guys. And judging from your reply, I can see why.

NZ Football equivalent to a UEFA 'A' - don't make me laugh. I have a couple of friends with it and they've done the NZF Level 2 and said it's not even close.

But you keep telling yourself how great a job you're doing. Nothing like a little self-attribution fallacy to keep you warm and cosy in your little jar.

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

This is going to be fun. Pull up a chair and a port & stoke the fire. The floor is yours Becks....

By the way, the thread for this is now MAINLAND JUNIORS. Please post there. 

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

This is going to be fun. Pull up a chair and a port & stoke the fire. The floor is yours Becks....

By the way, the thread for this is now MAINLAND JUNIORS. Please post there. 



Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago

So is this thread closed now? 

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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over 12 years ago


There must be confusion about the Mainland employee malarchy as no way would anyone involved with Mainland ever get involved in this banter.

And for this thread to be called Mainland supportive is also out of order.

This is a general gossip spreading and reading through the MPL will prove that.

Now get back to taking the piss out of 10 year olds.

I let my guitar speak for me

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over 12 years ago

Bugger ...... most fun I've had in ages ....

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 12 years ago

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I would be pretty confident that Korosh is not a failure, "Alan". Xavier also is a fantastically qualified coach and the region is bloody lucky to have them here!

And if you find yourself wondering why the door there keeps getting slammed in your face, you might consider taking a bit of a look at yourself. All I have seen in the 4 hours you have been on here has been moaning, criticism and borderline racism/xenophobia. Perhaps you can do a better job than the current crop of clearly terrible ex players? If you think so, then apply. Be sure and bring your NZ equivalent of a UEFA "A" badge, a positive attitude, and your friend "Beckham" to hold your hand eh?

P.S. I am also employed by Mainland, and I have only ever been outside NZ twice, so what does that make me? I seriously cant WAIT to hear your reply. 

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Looks like I've unwittingly blundered into a Mainland Football-sponsored echo chamber!

So we are not allowed to 'moan' or 'criticise', is that it?

You guys take our money  - close to $500 this time - and serve up little more than dross, then try to dress it up as a great experience for our children. The poor coaching, the trials that were obviously poorly run, based on the fact that kids went to tournament who couldn't even kick a ball properly (some were even toe-hacking) means people are NOT HAPPY. 

I'm sorry to break it to you Mr Mainland Football Employee, but we are paying your wages and we have a right to complain.

If you can't handle that, if you only want to hear good things, and only want to have your bellies rubbed, then for goodness' sake, DON'T LEAVE YOUR OFFICE, cause the current mood in the clubs is that you guys are failing us utterly.

You guys don't hold the keys to football. There are some EXTREMELY successful people out there in football land who look at the way you guys run the game and think it's average at best, and abysmal at worst. They just can't be bothered even engaging in a conversation with you guys. And judging from your reply, I can see why.

NZ Football equivalent to a UEFA 'A' - don't make me laugh. I have a couple of friends with it and they've done the NZF Level 2 and said it's not even close.

But you keep telling yourself how great a job you're doing. Nothing like a little self-attribution fallacy to keep you warm and cosy in your little jar.


Firstly, choose a profile to use. My post was referenced to your mate, not you. Login in a bit of a rush did we?


Secondly, did you even READ my post? Go back and have a better look...

Mainland Football don't sponsor me. I came here all by myself. As for moaning and criticising, sure you can, by all means. Just make sure you actually have at least a few positive ideas to go with it! You talk pretty tough on here (especially given that your grandmother could be one of us!)

 Your "right to complain" is absolutely valid. As is your right to not be involved, and keep your money in your pocket. You seem to want to do both? You also seem pretty keen to irritate folk at Mainland, and patronise me with your holier than thou way of speaking. Not the best way to get on folks good side.


As for leaving my office, I dont have one. I would not want one to be fair. You cant coach kids from inside an office. If your super successful mates know so much, why are you bothering with this anyway? Should you not be round their place, slagging down everyone involved with Mainland instead? Or are you like the kid who hangs about on the fringe of the cool group, isn't really in it, but if you stand close enough, nobody can see that they dont actually talk to you either!


If there is no NZF equivalent to a UEFA A badge, then you had best get off your backside and head offshore to get one. Until then, wind your neck in about who is best at what. 

 As for "what a great job I am doing", I actually worry every single day whether I am in fact giving the players/students the quality they deserve. I find it helps with motivation to have that mindset. It also keeps rampant arrogance in check, lest I become like yourself.


Lastly, as for my little "self attribution fallacy", I suspect the only thing "phallusy" around here might be you. Gosh its late...






You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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over 12 years ago
shushy6 wrote:

So is this thread closed now? 

Stick to the thread topic. If you want to talk about jack McKnight I guess it's here. If you want to discuss general mainland stuff post it on the mainland juniors or seniors thread, whichever is most relevant. Makes it easier for people who want to either read, or avoid, absolute drivel. 

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

@ shushy6 - it sounds like you just need a hug.

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over 12 years ago


I have taken teams to the tournament for the last 3 years , its a great run tournament ! Hats off to Nelson Bays !

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