Kick racism out of Football

Capital Football's stance - 

"Hi All

Thank you to all those who have submitted responses over the last couple of weeks to our email asking for other instances of discrimination that you feel Capital Football needs to be aware of. We are in the process of collating and reviewing these.

Capital Football does not condone any form of abuse, on or off the field.

We have reiterated to our referees to be vigilant and deal with any verbal abuse on the field, including any discriminatory comments. As many of our grades do not have an independent referee, we ask that everyone helps us address any unacceptable behaviour.

This is a community issue, not just a football or sport issue, and it will take the community to address this. "

Ah ok. Kind of like how John Terry was found guilty by the FA but not guilty by the courts I guess. 

Tricky.  Most of us are the same race as the English.  It's a derogatory term for a nationality more than a race isn't it?

Definitely prejudice and potentially xenophobia though.

Does it matter? This campaign should be focused on getting rid of, or at least reducing, all forms of abusive behaviour from football. Whether its racism, homophobia or just being a massive bell-end.

I would happily wear a t-shirt for the "Kick bell-ends out of football" campaign.

Now you're just showing prejudice toward bell-ends. nightz would be offended. 

Yes, I'm well aware of the difference between criminal and civil law standards of proof.

What I mean is, if you read the decision, the Committee themselves didn't know what was the appropriate standard, and after adopting the civil standard proceeded to apply it inconsistently.

Anyway, some bullshit from the Seatoun coach in the Dom Post this morning: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9005189/Racist-abuse-did-happen-but-offender-is-unknown

If an adjournment was actually requested and denied we can expect an appeal to NZF. Ha, I doubt it.

I'm not offended, I would take that as a term of endearment thanks.

This quote is soooo misleading "We were left with the disquieting feeling . . . that he had no further interest in pursuing the matter."

This is the actual quote

"FJ did not attend the hearing and no request for an adjournment was made. We were left with the disquieting feeling that his statement had served its purpose in the original red card hearing reducing his suspension to two weeks and that he had no further interest in pursuing the matter"

I wouldn't consider that misleading. If anything, the actual quote makes the player concerned look worse.

Which is my point.

Ahhhh, now I'm with you.

If anything, the headline for the article is the worst.

Agree. Nowhere in the article or the report does it say that racial abuse 'did happen'.

Where do we go from here?

..and any form of abusive behaviour.

for a nutmeg to truely count, the word "nuts" has to be yelled before the ball goes between the legs.

Yeah, reading the report only confirms my view that the real issue here is a wider culture of abusive behaviour rather than racism specifically. In saying that I'm not trying to minimise the racist element in this at all but racism rears it's ugly head in all sorts of shapes and sizes and like any problem it's important to diagnose it correctly so that you can put the right treatment in place.

In this case whatever words were actually said I'm reasonably confident they didn't come from a deeply held belief that people of African descent are actually inferior, although that possibility can't be completely excluded. Rather, I think they were probably said in the heat of moment with the specific intention of just being cruel and hurtful. Of course, the motivation makes no difference at all to the recipient of the insults, but it's a crucial consideration when deciding what to do about it. After all, if you're trying to fix someone you think is racist when the bigger problem is that they have an anger management problem, it's not really going to work is it?

This campaign really needs to look at the issue of why we get so heated on the football pitch in the first place and why we think that justifies being vile to each other. 

Kick nuttmegging out of football

the key word is "before"

Can you lose the ridiculous scotch egg pic btw

can you fuck off?

no, it is because you do not appreciate quality scotch eggs.

Back on topic, personally I think that a proper nuts should be collected by the person who knocked the ball through the legs (having called "nuts" or "megs" before hand), meaning that a teammate collecting the ball is not sufficient, although maybe that is just the traditionalist in me (not literally).  Probably worth devoting a whole podcast to the topic.

couple weeks back played a through ball between the refs legs and he called it... whats that worth?

Putting anything between the refs legs could be an indication of very serious corruption

"one witness did not attend the hearing because it was scheduled during Ramadan"

Awww, bull feathers. Unless the hearing required the witness to eat, drink, smoke or have sex, Ramadan observance is completely irrelevant. And if it did, that just raises even more questions.

I think we should be more pro-active and come down harshly on those who show intention to nut or meg, regardless of if they actually succeed or not or if it is clean or collected by the same person.

Zero tolerance.  We'll clean up the game in no time at all.

I love it.... we have a group earnestly discussing the whys and wherefores of racism in the beautiful game, at the same time running through them all is a small band debating the intricacies of the nutmeg. This is the essence of Yellow Fever, an island of sanity in the middle of a surging river. Personally I don't get the whole nutmeg thing but that doesn't stop me from shouting it out whenever I witness one.  

I always like adding a pinch of nutmeg on my porridge personally. 

The best nutmegs should never be called by the nutmegger.